== Meeting information ==

 * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team meeting, started by juliank, 04 Jul at 15:01 — 15:46 UTC.
 * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-07-04-15.01.log.html



== Meeting summary ==

=== Lightning rounds ===

Discussion started by juliank at 15:01.

 * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-07-04/   (juliank, 15:01)

=== Release incoming bugs ===

Discussion started by juliank at 15:10.

 * ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-oo-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 15:11)

=== Team proposed-migration report ===

Discussion started by juliank at 15:21.

 * ''LINK:'' https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 15:21)

=== AOB ===

Discussion started by juliank at 15:39.

 * ''LINK:'' https://manpages.ubuntu.com/ has no 24.10 tab  (dviererbe, 15:40)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * juliank (54)
 * adrien (14)
 * Skia (7)
 * schopin (6)
 * bdrung (4)
 * bdmurray (3)
 * meetingology (2)
 * tobhe (2)
 * dviererbe (2)
 * pushkarnk (2)
 * zhsj (2)
 * ginggs (2)
 * slyon (1)
 * samirkamerkar (1)
 * ravikant_ (1)
 * upils (1)
 * waveform (1)



== Full log ==


 15:01 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team

 15:01 <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:01:26 UTC.  The chair is juliank.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology

 15:01 <tobhe> o/

 15:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick

 15:01 <dviererbe> o/

 15:01 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds

 15:01 <pushkarnk> o/

 15:01 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-07-04/

 15:02 <zhsj> o/

 15:04 <adrien> \o

 15:05 <slyon> o/

 15:05 <Skia> adrien: don't worry, you're not up to the task to bring down autopkgtest.u.c with your britney, compared to the bots :D

 15:06 <Skia> adrien: still, we would certainly appreciate if you could set a very clear user-agent to run your queries

 15:06 <bdmurray> +1

 15:06 <Skia> adrien: a blackhole slips easily these days

 15:06 <bdmurray> s/slips/consumes all/

 15:07 <adrien> Skia: that's a good comparison actually: how many requests were there at the same time?

 15:07 <adrien> Skia: I'll keep that in mind; if I don't, I have a static IP (not from a big commercial national telco though)

 15:07 <Skia> adrien: the biggest one was about 200k per day, iirc, and most were above 5k

 15:08 <Skia> adrien: good to know, I also take a careful look at the whois before blackholing

 15:08 <adrien> I'll see how many queries I may send, but not before September, that's for sure :)

 15:09 <adrien> Skia: oh, and since I self-host and you know which domain names I use, you also know my IP

 15:09 <Skia> adrien: yes, but I would have to look that up, except if you put `Hello there, Skia` in your UA :D

 15:10 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs

 15:10 <juliank> The trackers are basically empty today, the only item for us is

 15:11 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-oo-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 15:11 <juliank> bug 2071815

 15:11 <adrien> Skia: sure, and I'll try to remember I need to set the UA, but just in case :)

 15:11 <juliank> But I think we need to discuss this with Nick next week, but we can just tag it foundations-todo and discuss it Monday

 15:11 <ginggs> juliank: please also scroll up to 'unknown' for the htpdate bug

 15:11 <tobhe> juliank: sounds good

 15:13 <juliank> bug 2071779

 15:14 <juliank> ginggs: This has no reverse dependencies so um just demote it to proposed or remove it and it won't migrate back until they pass again

 15:14 <juliank> Shrug

 15:15 <ginggs> juliank: this regressed due to openssl, adrien thought it might need investigating

 15:16 <juliank> It passed once this morning but failed

 15:16 <juliank> but failed more often

 15:16 <adrien> I don't think the issue is related to openssl, could be arithmetic unfortunately

 15:17 <adrien> one possibility though is that time offset for the ppc64el test runners is larger than for other machines

 15:18 <juliank> I don't care much about this

 15:18 <juliank> It seems like one of the weird time sync issues and it failing isn't new

 15:18 <schopin> how come that wasn't a regression against openssl?

 15:19 <juliank> Oh well it is new against the openssl

 15:19 <juliank> but still I don't see any openssl issue there

 15:19 <adrien> well, it was working before it seems; and ginggs added a hint

 15:19 <schopin> I think it warrants investigation then.

 15:19 <adrien> I don't see why it would be related to openssl unless there's memory corruption or something I don't understand; I can try to spend some time to investigate during the coming days

 15:20 <juliank> alright

 15:20 <juliank> I am adding an openssl task to it otherwise this gets lost

 15:21 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report

 15:21 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs

 15:21 * juliank gathers all the lists

 15:22 <juliank> Odd

 15:23 <juliank> OK the tooling is *a bit* broken

 15:24 <schopin> has pyopenssl really been on that list for 2 months?

 15:24 <adrien> yes, there are many impacted packages unfortunately

 15:25 <adrien> remaining: beancount (maybe), fence-agents, certbot

 15:26 <schopin> Oh is that the surface end of the rabbit hole you went into with google auth?

 15:26 <adrien> and pydrive2 but maybe the "solution" will be to vendor python-oauth2client

 15:26 <juliank> pyoenssl is with adrien still

 15:26 <adrien> schopin: exactly

 15:27 <juliank> OK let's try to assign from the list even if we miss data

 15:28 <juliank> libxml-libxml-perl tobhe

 15:30 <juliank> dracut is bdrung

 15:31 <bdrung> yes, my second name is dracut

 15:31 <juliank> orthanc-dicomweb goes liushuyu

 15:32 <samirkamerkar> Zixing is out today, tomorrow, but back on Monday.

 15:32 <schopin> that'll be early enough ;)

 15:32 <juliank> I'm at the wrong list

 15:32 <juliank> Sorry

 15:33 <juliank> apport is with schopin

 15:33 <juliank> llvm-toolchain-18 liushuyu then

 15:35 <juliank> fakeroot zhsj per special reequest

 15:35 <juliank> dh-cargo: Skia

 15:35 <Skia> ack

 15:35 <juliank> At least one failed with infra issues!

 15:35 <zhsj> ack, looks like we still need fakeroot on armhf

 15:36 <juliank> gcc-13-cross doko

 15:36 <juliank> dash pushkarnk

 15:36 <juliank> ok

 15:36 <juliank> dash dviererbe

 15:37 <juliank> glibc is a mixed bag we can just assign each itme

 15:37 <schopin> Oh yes please :)

 15:37 <juliank> bettercap vs glibc pushkarnk

 15:37 <pushkarnk> ack

 15:37 <juliank> cyrus-imapd vs glibc: ravikant_

 15:38 <ravikant_> ack

 15:38 <juliank> glibc vs isa-support: upils

 15:38 <upils> ack

 15:38 <juliank> octave-dicom vs glibc cpete

 15:38 <juliank> plplot vs glibc: juliank

 15:39 <juliank> gcc-11 is also with doko

 15:39 <juliank> * gcc-13 and gcc-14

 15:39 <juliank> Fixing up the broken builds more than proposed migration :)

 15:39 <juliank> #topic AOB

 15:40 <dviererbe> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/ has no 24.10 tab

 15:40 <bdrung> juliank, can you also assign multipath-tools? it's blocking initramfs-tools.

 15:40 <bdrung> i found a rls-ee-incoming bug: bug #1769297

 15:44 <juliank> multipath-tools vs initramfs-tools: waveform

 15:44 <waveform> ack

 15:44 <bdmurray> which ee?

 15:45 <juliank> eery emancipated emule

 15:45 <bdrung> the bug was filed in 2018

 15:46 <juliank> Alright I untagged it

 15:46 <juliank> #endmeeting



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