== Meeting information ==

 * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status meeting, started by cpaelzer, 11 Jun at 14:32 — 14:57 UTC.
 * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-06-11-14.32.log.html



== Meeting summary ==

=== current component mismatches ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:32.

 * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg   (cpaelzer, 14:33)
 * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg   (cpaelzer, 14:33)

=== New MIRs ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:34.

 * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir   (cpaelzer, 14:34)

=== Incomplete bugs / questions ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:37.

 * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir   (cpaelzer, 14:37)
 * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538   (cpaelzer, 14:37)

=== Process/Documentation improvements ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:38.

 * ''LINK:'' https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls   (cpaelzer, 14:38)
 * ''LINK:'' https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues   (cpaelzer, 14:38)
 * ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk   (jbicha, 14:46)
 * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir   (cpaelzer, 14:49)
 * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir   (cpaelzer, 14:49)
 * ''LINK:'' https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594   (cpaelzer, 14:49)

=== Any other business? ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:54.




== People present (lines said) ==

 * cpaelzer (77)
 * jbicha (10)
 * sarnold (9)
 * dviererbe (3)
 * joalif (3)
 * meetingology (2)



== Full log ==


 14:32 <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status

 14:32 <meetingology> Meeting started at 14:32:44 UTC.  The chair is cpaelzer.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology

 14:32 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick

 14:32 <cpaelzer> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe )

 14:32 <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches

 14:33 <dviererbe> o/

 14:33 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams

 14:33 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg

 14:33 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg

 14:33 <cpaelzer> still the same set on openstack / jamespage

 14:33 <cpaelzer> pythin-inflect/arrow -> typeguard/typeshed

 14:33 <cpaelzer> jamespage: after two weeks of pings could I ask this time what will you do about it :-) ?

 14:34 <jbicha> I intend to look into the new transmission dependency libb64

 14:34 <cpaelzer> thanks for answering my question before I ask

 14:34 <cpaelzer> jbicha: ++

 14:34 <jbicha> we cleared up abseil from last week :)

 14:34 <sarnold> \o/

 14:34 <cpaelzer> awesome

 14:34 <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs

 14:34 <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing

 14:34 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir

 14:34 <cpaelzer> wow

 14:35 <cpaelzer> we cleared the past

 14:35 <cpaelzer> and no new this week

 14:35 <sarnold> .. and it's not just broken? :)

 14:35 <cpaelzer> ok, time for other things and the lists that come later in the agenda

 14:37 <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions

 14:37 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams

 14:37 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir

 14:37 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538

 14:37 <cpaelzer> is a more recent update

 14:37 <cpaelzer> which is pushing it to post oracular

 14:38 <cpaelzer> I was hoping for it, but yeah it is what it is and I do not have resources to change it - so I won't complain at others for the same

 14:38 <cpaelzer> #topic Process/Documentation improvements

 14:38 <cpaelzer> Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues

 14:38 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls

 14:38 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues

 14:39 <joalif> o/

 14:39 <cpaelzer> all old except https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/58

 14:40 <cpaelzer> slyon said yes already

 14:40 <cpaelzer> anyone wants to stop me from merging?

 14:41 <cpaelzer> hmm, today is a monologue :-/

 14:41 <cpaelzer> merging in 10

 14:41 <cpaelzer> 5

 14:41 <cpaelzer> anyone still reading?

 14:42 <sarnold> guten abend :)

 14:42 <cpaelzer> hehe

 14:42 <cpaelzer> sarnold: joalif: - or guests jbicha and dviererbe - any input on this?

 14:42 <sarnold> cpaelzer: I hit the approve button a few minutes ago :)

 14:43 <cpaelzer> lol

 14:43 <cpaelzer> thanks

 14:43 <cpaelzer> merging ...

 14:43 <jbicha> could you clarify what you mean about webkit?

 14:44 <cpaelzer> the old line (from before my days) was

 14:44 <cpaelzer> TODO: - no dependency on webkit, qtwebkit or libseed

 14:44 <cpaelzer> it actually was back then just saying "seed" at the end

 14:44 <dviererbe> cpaelzer: Look reasonable to me

 14:44 <cpaelzer> which many Ubuntu folks considered to be these seeds https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement

 14:44 <cpaelzer> so I clarified libseed a while ago

 14:45 <jbicha> webkit2gtk only gets security support for like 3 years and is security sensitive so maybe it's worth being cautious about what stuff is using webkitgtk

 14:45 <cpaelzer> but we still had discussion sometimes on "why no webkit, qtwebkit or libseed"

 14:45 <cpaelzer> so I tried to outline that a bit

 14:45 <jbicha> documented at https://docs.webkit.org/Ports/WebKitGTK%20and%20WPE%20WebKit/DependenciesPolicy.html

 14:46 <cpaelzer> uh, thanks for knowing more

 14:46 <cpaelzer> reading ...

 14:46 <jbicha> we probably don't document that detail very well on the Ubuntu side, sorry

 14:46 <cpaelzer> jbicha: this is great still

 14:46 <jbicha> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk

 14:47 <cpaelzer> jbicha: would you consider it possible to extend on my PR with adding these for context?

 14:47 <jbicha> webkitgtk doesn't really provide security updates for previous "major" releases (and the release cycle is basically the same as GNOME's)

 14:47 <cpaelzer> I tried to make it more clear why we care about avoiding these dependencies - and my text does so. But with your references it would be even more understandable

 14:48 <jbicha> yes, I can add to my todo list

 14:48 <cpaelzer> thank you in advance

 14:49 <cpaelzer> going on in the agenda

 14:49 <cpaelzer> Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place.

 14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir

 14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir

 14:49 <cpaelzer> Internal link

 14:49 <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect

 14:49 <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much

 14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594

 14:50 <sarnold> python-boto3 and friends are substantially done and are blocked on me reviewing the review :)

 14:50 <cpaelzer> that is good news still

 14:50 <cpaelzer> thanks sarnold

 14:50 <sarnold> I expect to review those today and get those off the lists within the next day or so

 14:52 <cpaelzer> great

 14:54 <cpaelzer> ok

 14:54 <cpaelzer> otherwise it LGTM here

 14:54 <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?

 14:54 <sarnold> none here

 14:55 <cpaelzer> I wanted to thank jbicha for sysprof being the best Desktop MIR I've ever seen (not to complain at any former, but to praise for the current one)

 14:55 <sarnold> oo nice :)

 14:55 <jbicha> thank you

 14:56 <cpaelzer> yw

 14:56 <cpaelzer> nothing else to share :-)

 14:56 <cpaelzer> joalif: dviererbe: anything from you?

 14:56 <joalif> nothing

 14:56 <dviererbe> No just watching  :)

 14:56 <cpaelzer> ok then

 14:56 <joalif> thanks cpaelzer :)

 14:56 <cpaelzer> time to call this one done

 14:56 <cpaelzer> thank you all

 14:56 <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)

 14:57 <cpaelzer> #endmeeting



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