14:32 <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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14:32 <cpaelzer> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe )
14:32 <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
14:33 <dviererbe> o/
14:33 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
14:33 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
14:33 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
14:33 <cpaelzer> still the same set on openstack / jamespage
14:33 <cpaelzer> pythin-inflect/arrow -> typeguard/typeshed
14:33 <cpaelzer> jamespage: after two weeks of pings could I ask this time what will you do about it :-) ?
14:34 <jbicha> I intend to look into the new transmission dependency libb64
14:34 <cpaelzer> thanks for answering my question before I ask
14:34 <cpaelzer> jbicha: ++
14:34 <jbicha> we cleared up abseil from last week :)
14:34 <sarnold> \o/
14:34 <cpaelzer> awesome
14:34 <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
14:34 <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing
14:34 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:34 <cpaelzer> wow
14:35 <cpaelzer> we cleared the past
14:35 <cpaelzer> and no new this week
14:35 <sarnold> .. and it's not just broken? :)
14:35 <cpaelzer> ok, time for other things and the lists that come later in the agenda
14:37 <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
14:37 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
14:37 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:37 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538
14:37 <cpaelzer> is a more recent update
14:37 <cpaelzer> which is pushing it to post oracular
14:38 <cpaelzer> I was hoping for it, but yeah it is what it is and I do not have resources to change it - so I won't complain at others for the same
14:38 <cpaelzer> #topic Process/Documentation improvements
14:38 <cpaelzer> Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues
14:38 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls
14:38 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues
14:39 <joalif> o/
14:39 <cpaelzer> all old except https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/58
14:40 <cpaelzer> slyon said yes already
14:40 <cpaelzer> anyone wants to stop me from merging?
14:41 <cpaelzer> hmm, today is a monologue :-/
14:41 <cpaelzer> merging in 10
14:41 <cpaelzer> 5
14:41 <cpaelzer> anyone still reading?
14:42 <sarnold> guten abend :)
14:42 <cpaelzer> hehe
14:42 <cpaelzer> sarnold: joalif: - or guests jbicha and dviererbe - any input on this?
14:42 <sarnold> cpaelzer: I hit the approve button a few minutes ago :)
14:43 <cpaelzer> lol
14:43 <cpaelzer> thanks
14:43 <cpaelzer> merging ...
14:43 <jbicha> could you clarify what you mean about webkit?
14:44 <cpaelzer> the old line (from before my days) was
14:44 <cpaelzer> TODO: - no dependency on webkit, qtwebkit or libseed
14:44 <cpaelzer> it actually was back then just saying "seed" at the end
14:44 <dviererbe> cpaelzer: Look reasonable to me
14:44 <cpaelzer> which many Ubuntu folks considered to be these seeds https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
14:44 <cpaelzer> so I clarified libseed a while ago
14:45 <jbicha> webkit2gtk only gets security support for like 3 years and is security sensitive so maybe it's worth being cautious about what stuff is using webkitgtk
14:45 <cpaelzer> but we still had discussion sometimes on "why no webkit, qtwebkit or libseed"
14:45 <cpaelzer> so I tried to outline that a bit
14:45 <jbicha> documented at https://docs.webkit.org/Ports/WebKitGTK%20and%20WPE%20WebKit/DependenciesPolicy.html
14:46 <cpaelzer> uh, thanks for knowing more
14:46 <cpaelzer> reading ...
14:46 <jbicha> we probably don't document that detail very well on the Ubuntu side, sorry
14:46 <cpaelzer> jbicha: this is great still
14:46 <jbicha> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk
14:47 <cpaelzer> jbicha: would you consider it possible to extend on my PR with adding these for context?
14:47 <jbicha> webkitgtk doesn't really provide security updates for previous "major" releases (and the release cycle is basically the same as GNOME's)
14:47 <cpaelzer> I tried to make it more clear why we care about avoiding these dependencies - and my text does so. But with your references it would be even more understandable
14:48 <jbicha> yes, I can add to my todo list
14:48 <cpaelzer> thank you in advance
14:49 <cpaelzer> going on in the agenda
14:49 <cpaelzer> Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place.
14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:49 <cpaelzer> Internal link
14:49 <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect
14:49 <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much
14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594
14:50 <sarnold> python-boto3 and friends are substantially done and are blocked on me reviewing the review :)
14:50 <cpaelzer> that is good news still
14:50 <cpaelzer> thanks sarnold
14:50 <sarnold> I expect to review those today and get those off the lists within the next day or so
14:52 <cpaelzer> great
14:54 <cpaelzer> ok
14:54 <cpaelzer> otherwise it LGTM here
14:54 <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
14:54 <sarnold> none here
14:55 <cpaelzer> I wanted to thank jbicha for sysprof being the best Desktop MIR I've ever seen (not to complain at any former, but to praise for the current one)
14:55 <sarnold> oo nice :)
14:55 <jbicha> thank you
14:56 <cpaelzer> yw
14:56 <cpaelzer> nothing else to share :-)
14:56 <cpaelzer> joalif: dviererbe: anything from you?
14:56 <joalif> nothing
14:56 <dviererbe> No just watching  :)
14:56 <cpaelzer> ok then
14:56 <joalif> thanks cpaelzer :)
14:56 <cpaelzer> time to call this one done
14:56 <cpaelzer> thank you all
14:56 <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
14:57 <cpaelzer> #endmeeting