14:32 <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status 14:32 <meetingology> Meeting started at 14:32:44 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 14:32 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 14:32 <cpaelzer> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) 14:32 <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches 14:33 <dviererbe> o/ 14:33 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams 14:33 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg 14:33 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg 14:33 <cpaelzer> still the same set on openstack / jamespage 14:33 <cpaelzer> pythin-inflect/arrow -> typeguard/typeshed 14:33 <cpaelzer> jamespage: after two weeks of pings could I ask this time what will you do about it :-) ? 14:34 <jbicha> I intend to look into the new transmission dependency libb64 14:34 <cpaelzer> thanks for answering my question before I ask 14:34 <cpaelzer> jbicha: ++ 14:34 <jbicha> we cleared up abseil from last week :) 14:34 <sarnold> \o/ 14:34 <cpaelzer> awesome 14:34 <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs 14:34 <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing 14:34 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:34 <cpaelzer> wow 14:35 <cpaelzer> we cleared the past 14:35 <cpaelzer> and no new this week 14:35 <sarnold> .. and it's not just broken? :) 14:35 <cpaelzer> ok, time for other things and the lists that come later in the agenda 14:37 <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions 14:37 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams 14:37 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:37 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-broker/+bug/2015538 14:37 <cpaelzer> is a more recent update 14:37 <cpaelzer> which is pushing it to post oracular 14:38 <cpaelzer> I was hoping for it, but yeah it is what it is and I do not have resources to change it - so I won't complain at others for the same 14:38 <cpaelzer> #topic Process/Documentation improvements 14:38 <cpaelzer> Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues 14:38 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls 14:38 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues 14:39 <joalif> o/ 14:39 <cpaelzer> all old except https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/58 14:40 <cpaelzer> slyon said yes already 14:40 <cpaelzer> anyone wants to stop me from merging? 14:41 <cpaelzer> hmm, today is a monologue :-/ 14:41 <cpaelzer> merging in 10 14:41 <cpaelzer> 5 14:41 <cpaelzer> anyone still reading? 14:42 <sarnold> guten abend :) 14:42 <cpaelzer> hehe 14:42 <cpaelzer> sarnold: joalif: - or guests jbicha and dviererbe - any input on this? 14:42 <sarnold> cpaelzer: I hit the approve button a few minutes ago :) 14:43 <cpaelzer> lol 14:43 <cpaelzer> thanks 14:43 <cpaelzer> merging ... 14:43 <jbicha> could you clarify what you mean about webkit? 14:44 <cpaelzer> the old line (from before my days) was 14:44 <cpaelzer> TODO: - no dependency on webkit, qtwebkit or libseed 14:44 <cpaelzer> it actually was back then just saying "seed" at the end 14:44 <dviererbe> cpaelzer: Look reasonable to me 14:44 <cpaelzer> which many Ubuntu folks considered to be these seeds https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement 14:44 <cpaelzer> so I clarified libseed a while ago 14:45 <jbicha> webkit2gtk only gets security support for like 3 years and is security sensitive so maybe it's worth being cautious about what stuff is using webkitgtk 14:45 <cpaelzer> but we still had discussion sometimes on "why no webkit, qtwebkit or libseed" 14:45 <cpaelzer> so I tried to outline that a bit 14:45 <jbicha> documented at https://docs.webkit.org/Ports/WebKitGTK%20and%20WPE%20WebKit/DependenciesPolicy.html 14:46 <cpaelzer> uh, thanks for knowing more 14:46 <cpaelzer> reading ... 14:46 <jbicha> we probably don't document that detail very well on the Ubuntu side, sorry 14:46 <cpaelzer> jbicha: this is great still 14:46 <jbicha> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk 14:47 <cpaelzer> jbicha: would you consider it possible to extend on my PR with adding these for context? 14:47 <jbicha> webkitgtk doesn't really provide security updates for previous "major" releases (and the release cycle is basically the same as GNOME's) 14:47 <cpaelzer> I tried to make it more clear why we care about avoiding these dependencies - and my text does so. But with your references it would be even more understandable 14:48 <jbicha> yes, I can add to my todo list 14:48 <cpaelzer> thank you in advance 14:49 <cpaelzer> going on in the agenda 14:49 <cpaelzer> Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. 14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:49 <cpaelzer> Internal link 14:49 <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect 14:49 <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much 14:49 <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 14:50 <sarnold> python-boto3 and friends are substantially done and are blocked on me reviewing the review :) 14:50 <cpaelzer> that is good news still 14:50 <cpaelzer> thanks sarnold 14:50 <sarnold> I expect to review those today and get those off the lists within the next day or so 14:52 <cpaelzer> great 14:54 <cpaelzer> ok 14:54 <cpaelzer> otherwise it LGTM here 14:54 <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business? 14:54 <sarnold> none here 14:55 <cpaelzer> I wanted to thank jbicha for sysprof being the best Desktop MIR I've ever seen (not to complain at any former, but to praise for the current one) 14:55 <sarnold> oo nice :) 14:55 <jbicha> thank you 14:56 <cpaelzer> yw 14:56 <cpaelzer> nothing else to share :-) 14:56 <cpaelzer> joalif: dviererbe: anything from you? 14:56 <joalif> nothing 14:56 <dviererbe> No just watching :) 14:56 <cpaelzer> ok then 14:56 <joalif> thanks cpaelzer :) 14:56 <cpaelzer> time to call this one done 14:56 <cpaelzer> thank you all 14:56 <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :) 14:57 <cpaelzer> #endmeeting