15:03 <bdrung> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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15:03 <bdrung> #topic Lightning rounds
15:03 <bdrung> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-05-30/45411/6
15:05 <bdmurray> Skia: What was the kernel bug regarding autopkgtest that might have been related to bug 2063094?
15:08 <bdmurray> adrien: There was a thought that bug 2056461 might be related to your unattended-upgrades bug.
15:09 <Skia> there, you found it, sorry for the delay, I was busy posting my status late :/
15:10 <Skia> (I also lost some time diving into adrien's new excuse page, it looks great!)
15:10 <adrien> oh, that's a bit surprising
15:10 <adrien> host kernel is 6.1.0-15-amd64
15:11 <adrien> Skia: :)
15:11 <bdmurray> I was seeing it on noble as was apw
15:11 <adrien> it's not the first time I see that issue but I can't tell when was the first time
15:11 <adrien> bdmurray: considering that seb had a very different backtrace, I wouldn't be surprised there are several bugs
15:12 <bdmurray> Hrm, I'm not seeing bug 2056461 in the changelog for our linux package though...
15:14 <adrien> also, I'll be running dbus-monitor for a while; we'll see if something changes from there
15:14 <bdmurray> Skia: Could you check with the kernel team about the fix?
15:15 <Skia> sure
15:16 <bdrung> done with reading and ready to move on?
15:17 <bdmurray> I've finished reading
15:17 <bdrung> #topic Release incoming bugs
15:17 <bdrung> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:18 <bdrung> bug #2066995
15:18 <schopin> No oo incoming?
15:18 <bdrung> (doing nn before oo)
15:19 <bdrung> that bug needs triaging.
15:20 <bdrung> schopin, could you have a look at it?
15:21 <schopin> hem, that's a weird one?
15:22 <bdrung> yes
15:23 <bdrung> should we keep it in incoming until next week to have it triaged by then?
15:23 <schopin> OK with me. I'll spend some time looking over the logs in details.
15:24 <bdrung> ok. next: bug #2067120
15:25 <bdrung> @bdmurray, i suggested a fix for what i could see. Can you test if that fixes it for you as well?
15:25 <bdrung> IMO we can tag this one as foundations-todo
15:25 <bdmurray> bdrung: I will test it today
15:26 <bdrung> okay. tagged.
15:27 <bdrung> bug #2063094
15:31 <bdrung> this is the bug @Skia talked about previously
15:32 <bdrung> should we tag it? it looks important enough to me and @adrien provided logs (i did not look into unattended-upgrades-bt.tar.xz)
15:33 <ogayot> I also think we should tag it
15:34 <bdrung> tagged
15:34 <Skia> I think it's bdmurray that mentionned it, I don't have any context on this one, but I only know that it might be linked to LP#2056461 that I investigated from a very different angle
15:34 <schopin> do we have enough to debug it?
15:34 <bdmurray> Based of what adrien said I'm somewhat concerned issues are being conflated here
15:35 <adrien> I'm a bit surprised with the stacks I've been seeing: I would have assumed they don't take CPU time
15:36 <adrien> maybe the same operation fails repeatedly and is re-tried however
15:36 <adrien> but I was also planning to wait for Julian to look at the traces before thinking more about the issue
15:36 <bdrung> adrien, will you carry that bug forward?
15:37 <bdrung> next: bug #2067071
15:37 <bdrung> oh, i see "TypeError: apport_excepthook() missing 1 required positional argument: 'exc_tb'" in there
15:38 <bdrung> the python stack trace looks simple enough to debug that. any objections to tagging it?
15:38 <adrien> bdrung: no, I don't have time for that, especially since I'm not familiar with that and also since python-auth2client will be quite some work
15:39 <bdmurray> Let's hold leave the uanttended-upgrades bug for next week then
15:39 <bdmurray> enr0n: Are there any duplicates of bug 2067071?
15:39 <enr0n> Yeah we should definitely take this. I wanted Julian's input on why the _cand would be None
15:39 <enr0n> bdmurray: maybe, but I have not had time yet to go through all the recent bug reports
15:40 <bdrung> tagged
15:40 <bdrung> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-oo-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:40 <bdrung> bug #2063204
15:42 <bdrung> looks like there is a foundation discussion how to address it. objections to tagging it?
15:45 <bdrung> tagged then.
15:45 <bdrung> bug #1969394
15:46 <bdmurray> that might be more desktop
15:46 <bdrung> Seems more like an UI task that we can leave to the desktop team
15:46 <bdrung> bug #2063467
15:48 <bdrung> leaving it for next week for juliank to be back
15:48 <bdrung> bug #2067350
15:49 <bdrung> looks valid to me. schopin should we tag it?
15:50 <schopin> as far as glibc is concerned I'm OK with this, but I'd like doko's ACK on it for the gcc part?
15:50 <bdrung> schopin, can you get dokos response in the ticket? then let's keep it till next week.
15:51 <bdrung> bug #2015538
15:51 <bdrung> leave that to the desktop team
15:51 <bdrung> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:51 <bdrung> bug #2041518
15:52 <bdrung> that is for the desktop team as well
15:52 <bdrung> bug #2041831
15:52 <bdrung> same here
15:52 <bdrung> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:52 <bdrung> nothing for foundations
15:53 <bdrung> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:53 <bdrung> same here. nothing for foundations
15:53 <bdrung> #topic Team proposed-migration report
15:53 <bdrung> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:55 <adrien> I started on the python-oauth2client and I think removal is doable but it will take some time as revdeps are not updated in packages :/
15:56 <bdrung> fwupd-efi: vorlon (carry over from last week)
15:56 <bdrung> pyopenssl: adrien (carry over from last week)
15:57 <bdrung> gcc-13-cross: vorlon (carry over from last week)
15:57 <bdrung> libsub-override-perl: cpete (carry over from last week)
15:58 <bdrung> ncurses: zhsj
15:59 <bdrung> openssl vs nodejs: that screems adrien or should i pick someone else?
15:59 <adrien> bdrung: "yeah"
15:59 <zhsj> ack
16:00 <bdrung> dracut: me
16:00 <adrien> it's expected that openssl 3.2 will fix it
16:00 <adrien> (IIUC)
16:00 <bdrung> netplan.io: the netplan team
16:01 <bdrung> systemd vs the rest of the world: enr0n (carry over from last week)
16:02 <bdrung> cryptsetup: schopin
16:02 <bdrung> curl vs nodejs: ogayot
16:02 <ogayot> bdrung: ack
16:03 <bdrung> sphinx: mkukri
16:03 <mkukri> ack
16:03 <bdrung> apt: juliank
16:04 <mkukri> isnt juliank ooo?
16:04 <bdrung> dhcpcd: dbungert
16:05 <dbungert> ack
16:05 <bdrung> juliank, is ooo but will be back next week
16:06 <schopin> (belated ack for cryptsetup)
16:06 <bdrung> lzo2: dviererbe
16:06 <dviererbe> ack
16:07 <bdrung> now reaching the fresh ones
16:07 <bdrung> all that did not get one can be happv
16:07 <bdrung> #topic AOB
16:08 <bdrung> speak now or forever hold your peace
16:08 <bdrung> #endmeeting