== Meeting information ==

 * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team meeting, started by juliank, 23 May at 15:01 — 15:30 UTC.
 * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-05-23-15.01.log.html



== Meeting summary ==

=== Lightning rounds ===

Discussion started by juliank at 15:01.

 * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-05-23/45236   (vorlon, 15:02)
 * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-05-23/45236   (juliank, 15:02)

=== Release incoming bugs ===

Discussion started by juliank at 15:13.

 * ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-na-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 15:15)
 * ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 15:15)
 * ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 15:18)

=== Team proposed-migration report ===

Discussion started by juliank at 15:18.

 * ''LINK:'' https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 15:18)

=== AOB ===

Discussion started by juliank at 15:24.




== People present (lines said) ==

 * juliank (32)
 * vorlon (31)
 * bdmurray (6)
 * adrien (6)
 * bdrung_ (4)
 * schopin (4)
 * upils (3)
 * zhsj (3)
 * meetingology (2)
 * tobhe (2)
 * adrien_web (2)
 * dviererbe (2)
 * ravikant_ (1)
 * xypron (1)
 * mclemenceau (1)
 * danilogondolfo (1)
 * dbungert (1)
 * cpete (1)
 * enr0n (1)
 * ginggs (1)
 * ogayot (1)



== Full log ==


 15:01 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team

 15:01 <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:01:31 UTC.  The chair is juliank.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology

 15:01 <upils> o/

 15:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick

 15:01 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds

 15:02 <vorlon> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-05-23/45236

 15:02 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-05-23/45236

 15:02 <tobhe> o/

 15:02 <juliank> Ah vorlon was faster

 15:02 <adrien_web> \o

 15:02 <ravikant_> o/

 15:02 <vorlon> yeah but unofficial since I'm not the chair :)

 15:03 <vorlon> adrien_web: typo, s/libm/libmia/

 15:03 <bdrung_> vorlon, typo, s/libm/libmi/

 15:03 <xypron> \o

 15:03 <vorlon> bdrung_: hahaha

 15:04 <zhsj> o/

 15:04 <vorlon> clearly taking time to re-adjust to my desktop keyboard ;)

 15:04 <bdmurray> I didn't realize how much I missed mine

 15:05 <bdrung_> i'll be back to a proper keyboard tomorrow

 15:05 <bdmurray> "Working on adding snap support to flamenco tool" more flamenco!

 15:05 <vorlon> "asking for creds for ps6 s390x" omg yes

 15:05 <adrien_web> Will fix whenever my laptop gets the tethering. :)

 15:05 <tobhe> *flamingo

 15:06 <dviererbe> No it' called " flamenco

 15:06 <dviererbe> " like the dance

 15:07 <mclemenceau> o/

 15:08 <adrien> all I know is that I'm right with the plural :P

 15:08 <vorlon> *flaming hot cheetos

 15:08 <bdmurray> that doesn't concatenate to flamenco

 15:11 <vorlon> upils: sparse image support yum - what's missing/needed there?

 15:11 <schopin> danilogondolfo: I commend you on the conciseness of your report :)

 15:12 <danilogondolfo> schopin, thanks :)

 15:12 <upils> vorlon, in the end, probably a call to `img2simg` but I would like to make sure I understand it (I just recently discovered sparse images)

 15:13 <vorlon> hmmm auto-sparsing, suspicious

 15:13 <upils> oh no, upon request

 15:13 <juliank> moving on

 15:13 <vorlon> well yes but img2simg is going to be heuristic

 15:13 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs

 15:14 <juliank> do we have oo yet?

 15:14 <juliank> No not yet

 15:14 <vorlon> bdmurray: ^ ?

 15:14 <bdmurray> Hmm

 15:14 <bdmurray> I'll get to it this week

 15:14 <juliank> bdmurray: thanks

 15:15 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-na-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 15:15 <vorlon> na?

 15:15 <juliank> sigh

 15:15 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 15:15 <juliank> So this only has bug 2063094

 15:16 <juliank> Which sure we should fix but have no actionable info on so far

 15:16 <juliank> I spend an hour or so reading the code and I don't see a loop in unattended-upgrades that could run forever

 15:17 <bdmurray> I thought there were sample apt-clone files?

 15:17 <juliank> No

 15:18 <juliank> SO I asked for more gdb backtraces, we need to figure out where it is looping and not just have a single backtrace

 15:18 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 15:18 <juliank> This only has the desktop assigned crashes in it

 15:18 <juliank> jj and ff are empty

 15:18 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report

 15:18 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs

 15:19 <juliank> vorlon:

 15:19 <vorlon> let's see!

 15:19 <vorlon> 14 packages needing attention, that's not too bad

 15:19 <vorlon> fwupd-efi is probably unapproved signed binaries, I'll follow up

 15:19 <vorlon> golang-defaults vs ycmd, sounds like zhsj is already working on this

 15:20 <vorlon> pyopenssl: adrien?

 15:20 <zhsj> yes, golang-defaults will be migrated after the pending running.

 15:20 <adrien> ack (but also :fear:)

 15:20 <vorlon> cmake and libuv1: bdrung_?

 15:20 <bdrung_> ack

 15:21 <vorlon> gcc-13-cross: ugh this looks like more cross-source-package component mismatches madness; I'll follow up

 15:21 <adrien> also, I'm preparing openssl 3.2 so I might delay/skip some things if they're related to openssl 3.0

 15:21 <vorlon> libsub-override-perl appears to need an MIR. Any volunteers?

 15:21 <juliank> vorlon: fwupd-efi is awkward but I think  you can reject the binaries, it's a sync that needs to go through the signing PPA workflow instead, so rejecting the binaries and building them in the uefi build PPA is probably the best idea

 15:22 <vorlon> juliank: sure. have we been rerouting fwupd-efi through the signing ppa?  or have we been just signing them with the old and useless key :)

 15:22 <vorlon> juliank: anyway you and I can coordinate

 15:23 <vorlon> libsub-override-perl: cpete

 15:23 <vorlon> numpy: dbungert

 15:23 <dbungert> ack

 15:23 <cpete> vorlon: ack

 15:24 <vorlon> llvm-toolchain-18: will punt this to locutusofborg for the moment

 15:24 <vorlon> systemd: enr0n are you already on this?

 15:24 <enr0n> vorlon: yes indeed

 15:24 <vorlon> ok then that's everything for this week

 15:24 <vorlon> juliank:

 15:24 <ginggs> llvm-toolchain-18 just waiting on riscv64 build, i believe

 15:24 <juliank> #topic AOB

 15:24 <vorlon> ginggs: confirmed

 15:25 <juliank> I should take 2nd half of next week off but I haven't filed that yet :D

 15:25 <bdrung_> schopin, you forgot to mention apport reviews in your status update!

 15:26 <schopin> Next week we need to do the assignments in reverse order :)

 15:26 <adrien> python-oauth2client uses an API that has been removed from pyopenssl; project has been dead for years; let's kill it this time?

 15:27 <schopin> bdrung_: nah, it was all done in <30mn, not worth mentioning ;)

 15:27 <adrien> I'll be off tomorrow and monday

 15:28 <schopin> adrien: good luck with killing it, it has a few rdeps.

 15:28 <ogayot> adrien: I tried to drop it last cycle and ended up fixing it

 15:28 <juliank> I have 5 APT test cases to analyse and possibly fix for the new solver and then the first batch is over

 15:29 <juliank> Or I should say the first round, not first batch :)

 15:29 <adrien> ogayot: ah, I remembered some things but I didn't know you had actually tried to drop it :/

 15:29 <vorlon> next Monday is a US holiday

 15:29 <vorlon> National Grilling Day

 15:29 <juliank> This is all the easy fixes so we have the test suite working for bigger solver changes

 15:29 <juliank> Also Saturday is a towel day

 15:29 <zhsj> i'll be off tomorrow as well.

 15:30 <juliank> OK let's wrap up here!

 15:30 <juliank> #endmeeting



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