15:01 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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15:01 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
15:01 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-05-02/
15:02 <juliank> Most forgot so I guess um 5 minutes only today because not much to read
15:03 * juliank has blacked out a bit as to what happened this week
15:04 <juliank> Holiday yesterday sure did not help
15:04 <bdrung> lost all memory after first of May?
15:04 <juliank> yeah
15:06 <juliank> Questions, comments, additional memories recovered?
15:07 <bdrung> Recovered memory: I worked on the sponsoring report generation.
15:07 <juliank> When can we finally get https again for reports.qa.ubuntu.com? This is adding minutes of extra effort trying to convince firefox with https forced to downgrade
15:07 <dbungert> mateus-morais: "are not Canonical owned" - I assume that should be "are now Canonical owned" ?
15:08 <vorlon> juliank: you probably need to ask Brian to follow up on this
15:08 <mateus-morais> dbungert: oops, yeah, fixing now, thanks!
15:08 <juliank> vorlon: yeah
15:08 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
15:08 <bdrung> juliank, when we setup letsencrypt (in a session in Madrid?)
15:09 <juliank> We do not have oo yet
15:09 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:09 <juliank> bug 2061214 I should untag, sorry
15:09 <juliank> (that was the software-properties-qt shenanigan)
15:10 <juliank> vorlon: I suppose we can delete src:software-properties-qt in oracular now, should be superseded by new binary software-properties-qt from software-properties
15:10 <vorlon> sure, checking
15:10 <juliank> bug 2063094 so far we don't have actionable intel on, waiting for it to happen to me or tracking
15:11 <juliank> ubottu: .
15:11 <juliank> It dead
15:11 <juliank> Oh I guess Launchpad is the one that is dead
15:11 <vorlon> juliank: it's not superseded yet, software-properties 0.99.49 is still in -proposed
15:11 <juliank> ah
15:11 <juliank> let's try again
15:11 <juliank> bug 2063094 so far we don't have actionable intel on, waiting for it to happen to me or tracking
15:12 <juliank> (seb is collecting data it happens a lot to him)
15:12 <juliank> bug 2063128
15:13 <vorlon> should be fixed in the package popping the prompt, not worked around in u-r-u
15:13 <vorlon> so decline
15:13 <juliank> ah so if it is a new prompt we should not ask it on upgrades
15:14 <juliank> launchpad is not responsive
15:14 <vorlon> it is for me
15:14 <vorlon> I've commented the bug and marked the u-r-u task wontfix
15:15 <juliank> I think I marked it Invalid after that
15:15 <juliank> But some loads take ages
15:15 <juliank> Let me set it back
15:15 <vorlon> oh ok.  also I lied I marked it invalid not wontfix ;)
15:16 <juliank> heh
15:16 <juliank> Anyway
15:16 <juliank> bug 2060326
15:16 <juliank> See ubottu has trouble too
15:16 <juliank> bug 2060326
15:16 <juliank> bug 2060326
15:16 <juliank> " unattended-upgrades is running forever "
15:16 <juliank> probably a duplicate of Brian's bug
15:17 <vorlon> NOW launchpad is unresponsive for me
15:17 <juliank> oh sorry it says " unnattended upgrades stuck burning 100% cpu "
15:17 <vorlon> we should take it
15:18 <vorlon> and if we figure out it's a dupe, ok
15:18 <juliank> I just mark it as a dupe, it quite clearly is one and we can dedup later
15:18 <juliank> but we need to get needs information
15:18 <vorlon> ok
15:20 <juliank> mm has nothing new, just the desktop bugs
15:20 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:20 <juliank> bug 2058743
15:20 <xypron> unattended-upgrades is really taking long time on embedded boards.
15:20 <juliank> taking a long time != not finishing
15:21 <xypron> hours
15:21 <juliank> and we can relatively trivially make it a lot faster fwiw
15:21 <xypron> I just dropped it for cron-apt running when I sleep.
15:21 <juliank> We just don't use action groups right now, but neither do we use the new inhibit action group feature
15:22 <juliank> i.e. a lot of time is spent after each mark_install() call for each upgradable package to figure out which packages are now autoremovable
15:22 <juliank> The new API I need to expose then we can use it
15:23 <juliank> or we just keep a continuous action group when we open the cache, though it might not be enough
15:23 <juliank> (it has its own internal one?)
15:23 <juliank> Anyway
15:23 <juliank> systemd loocal dns tests failing
15:23 <juliank> slyon was talking to smb on the bug
15:24 <juliank> but nothing new there
15:24 <juliank> And ff is empty so I suppose that wraps up bugs
15:24 <juliank> I'll try to have a look at unattended-upgrades upstream status, the whole thing is weirdly still maintained by mvo
15:25 <juliank> he released a 2.10 but it ftbfs
15:25 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
15:25 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:25 <juliank> vorlon: do migration or skip?
15:26 <vorlon> we can do it
15:26 <juliank> We can do grey items
15:26 <juliank> :)
15:26 <vorlon> oracular is open
15:26 <vorlon> nah that's generally not a good use of time
15:27 <juliank> well then fwupd-signed should be removed; nullboot I need to talk to gjolly if we can ship that for oracular now
15:27 <vorlon> "should be removed" why?
15:27 <juliank> and software-properties I guess needs retries
15:27 <vorlon> (can do, just want to know the reason)
15:27 <juliank> vorlon: it was a wrongly uploaded rebuild of mine
15:27 <vorlon> ok
15:27 <vorlon> done
15:28 <vorlon> ok so probably nothing to actually assign out here
15:28 <juliank> vorlon: So software-properties needs to be force-skiptested because it fails with software-properties-qt
15:28 <vorlon> yeah, will hint
15:28 <vorlon> done
15:28 <juliank> thanks
15:28 <juliank> #topic AOB
15:28 <juliank> That leaves any otter business
15:29 <juliank> 🦦
15:29 <Skia> wow, I had never seen an otter in my terminal yet
15:33 <juliank> mkukri: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-unsigned/+bug/2057679 still needs verification
15:34 <juliank> #endmeeting