15:00 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team 15:00 <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:00:38 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 15:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 15:00 <ginggs> o/ 15:00 <zhsj> o/ 15:00 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds 15:00 <ogayot> o/ 15:00 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-03-14/ 15:02 <liushuyu> o/ 15:02 <schopin> o/ 15:02 <slyon> o/ 15:02 <dbungert> o/ 15:03 <mateus-morais> o/ 15:04 <mkukri> o/ 15:04 <bdmurray> enr0n: is there somebody specific you want to review the polkit-1 change? 15:05 <Skia> o/ 15:05 <enr0n> bdmurray: yes, I requested seb on the MP 15:06 <upils> o/ 15:07 <bdmurray> I'd like to see a photo of "bug grooming" 15:08 <vorlon> adrien: what specifically does openssl need to support wrt LTO? 15:09 <upils> bdmurray, would "backlog grooming" be more appropriate? 15:10 <bdmurray> IDK I just thought it'd be funny to groom a flea / ant. 15:10 <vorlon> do you have nits 15:11 <adrien> \o 15:11 <adrien> oh, DST, that's why, and I'll be not so available :/ 15:11 <adrien> but let me find that 15:11 <schopin> vorlon: I think adrien meant something related to https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/18663 15:12 <adrien> there are several issues, and at least a recent one with clang and ppc64el 15:12 <adrien> it all revolves around aliasing 15:12 <adrien> moreover I'm not sure it brings much performance for openssl 15:12 <schopin> And it surely murder the build time :) 15:13 <ginggs> bdrung: do you plan to sync libapache2-mod-python ? 15:13 <juliank> let's move on 15:13 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs 15:13 <bdmurray> vorlon: Do you have experience w/ umockdev and the fake devices script in ubuntu-drivers-common? 15:13 <vorlon> schopin: "glibc now treating C.UTF-8 the same way it does C" hmm in what way? I did have a build failure I was debugging recently that was locale-sensitive 15:14 <vorlon> (though I've forgotten which) 15:14 <vorlon> bdmurray: sorry, I don't 15:14 <bdrung> ginggs, yes. thanks for the reminder 15:14 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:14 <juliank> bug 2054716 15:14 <schopin> vorlon: AIUI it won't even look up translations if the locale is C 15:14 <bdmurray> that's well in hand 15:15 <vorlon> schopin: ah - that actually sounds related to the bug I saw 15:15 <vorlon> good to know 15:15 <juliank> enr0n: Should we just untag the bug or do you want it in jira? 15:16 <enr0n> juliank: let's just untag it 15:16 <juliank> ack 15:16 <juliank> bug 2056562 15:17 <juliank> I think we can actually just respin noble's shim-signed with Breaks: grub-common (= 2.12-1ubuntu3) for the few people affected by this 15:17 <juliank> It's an ... unconventional use of Breaks, but it avoids order entanglement at upgrade 15:19 <juliank> and that's it for incoming bugs nothing to see in other releases 15:19 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report 15:19 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs 15:19 <juliank> vorlon: 15:20 <vorlon> does the page load today? let's see 15:20 <juliank> I find the issue with my proposed-migration is the runners are full so I don't have the results from last weeks items yet 15:20 <vorlon> 450 packages needing attention 15:20 <vorlon> libselinux was mentioned in somebody's status report I think? 15:21 <schopin> adrien but he's AFK right now because DST 15:21 <vorlon> ok 15:21 <vorlon> so I'll leave libselinux with adrien 15:21 <vorlon> waveform: you're still working on python-ldap? 15:22 <waveform> yup 15:22 <vorlon> is hyask not here? 15:22 <vorlon> ah Skia 15:22 <schopin> Skia: ^ 15:22 <vorlon> Skia: you're ok to follow through on libbsd vs gvmd? 15:23 <vorlon> python-apt vs apt: juliank 15:23 <juliank> I'm doing all the apt ones 15:23 <vorlon> ack 15:24 <vorlon> a lot of armhf autopkgtest failures there that need retried with --all-proposed, for sure 15:24 <Skia> vorlon: yes, it's just been a moving target all the week, but I do plan on continuing to follow this 15:24 <vorlon> mkukri: are you still on dnspython vs samba? 15:24 <juliank> I'm kind trying to build the recursive list of dependencies and add them as triggers to avoid even more failures from all-proposed 15:25 <mkukri> ack 15:25 <vorlon> I had curl vs nettle assigned last week; this week it looks like curl vs libpsl. anyway this is all tied into the time_t transition, and I'll follow up 15:26 <vorlon> and on libpsl generally 15:26 <vorlon> juliank: does 'all the apt ones' include apt blocking xz-utils on armhf? 15:27 <vorlon> libtirpc: still with liushuyu ? 15:27 <juliank> well, everything blocking apt 2.7.12->2.17.3ubuntu1 15:27 <upils> that seems related yes. I am waiting for a restest to confirm 15:27 <upils> *retest 15:27 <vorlon> upils: sorry, which is that in response to? 15:27 <juliank> apt blocking xz-utils is what upils retried earlier 15:27 <upils> yes 15:27 <vorlon> ah yes 15:27 <vorlon> ok 15:28 <juliank> Any apt/2.7.12 result needs retrying with apt/2.7.13 trigger 15:28 <vorlon> bear in mind that for any autopkgtest failures on armhf specifically, they should be retested with --all-proposed because 99% are going to require this due to time_t 15:28 <juliank> because apt builds test helpers at test time with now t64 that fail to link against the old t32 library from 2.7.12 15:28 <vorlon> and if that still fails you should check that the package has been rebuilt in -proposed for the new library package name, and if not, arrange no-change rebuilds 15:29 <vorlon> libuv1 is still with mwhudson 15:29 <vorlon> freetype didn't get assigned last week - bdrung can you take it? 15:29 <bdrung> ack 15:29 <vorlon> optipng - bdmurray ? 15:30 <vorlon> libgd2 - cpete__ ? 15:30 <cpete__> bdmurack 15:30 <vorlon> is cpete an internal gcc macro 15:30 <cpete__> ack 15:30 <bdmurray> okay 15:30 <vorlon> casper vs plymouth: dbungert 15:30 <bdmurray> Tim would like one too 15:31 <dbungert> ack for casper vs plymouth 15:31 <vorlon> slang2: Tim 15:31 <vorlon> nfs-utils vs adsys: danilogondolfo 15:31 <vorlon> pyopenssl: ginggs 15:31 <danilogondolfo> vorlon, ack 15:31 <ginggs> ack 15:32 <vorlon> software-properties vs dconf: ooh it's not a time_t one. xypron 15:32 <xypron> ok 15:33 <vorlon> xypron: actually there are 3 separate autopkgtest failures on arm64 in response to dconf: software-properties, update-manager, update-notifier. So probably a dconf regression, can you look at all of these please? 15:33 <vorlon> (dconf itself is not ours, so it's ok if the investigation results in turning it over to the Desktop Team to fix) 15:33 <vorlon> libvpx: slyon 15:33 <slyon> ok 15:33 <vorlon> initramfs-tools vs netplan.io on armhf: mateus-morais 15:34 <mateus-morais> ack 15:34 <vorlon> libgtk3-perl: enr0n 15:34 <enr0n> vorlon: ack 15:34 <vorlon> software-properties vs gtk+3.0: ogayot 15:34 <bdrung> vorlon, I am taking initramfs-tools vs netplan.io - this needs just some handholding 15:34 <ogayot> vorlon: ack 15:35 <vorlon> ubuntu-release-upgrader vs gtk+2.0: mateus-morais since bdrung is stealing 15:35 <mateus-morais> vorlon: ok 15:35 <bdrung> (i want to check that the initramfs-tools tests became stable again) 15:35 <vorlon> mateus-morais: please also take update-manager, update-notifier, and vim blocking gtk+3.0 - these are probably all just autopkgtest retries 15:35 <mateus-morais> ack 15:35 <vorlon> fwupd vs libmbim: pushkarnk 15:36 <pushkarnk> ack 15:36 <vorlon> pushkarnk: fwupd is also blocking libqmi and modemmanager, so please check on these too, probably same root cause 15:36 <pushkarnk> vorlon: ok 15:36 <vorlon> pango1.0 vs harfbuzz: schopin 15:36 <schopin> ack 15:36 <vorlon> schopin: hmmm raqm and pango1.0 both fail on harfbuzz/arm64, please look at both 15:37 <schopin> ok 15:37 <vorlon> cryptsetup vs jq: zhsj 15:37 <vorlon> and we'll stop there 15:37 <vorlon> anyone who runs out of things to do this week on proposed-migration, there's plenty more ;) 15:37 <vorlon> juliank: back to you 15:37 <zhsj> ack 15:40 <juliank> #topic AOB 15:40 <juliank> any other business? 15:40 <juliank> any other busyness? :D 15:40 <vorlon> busy busy 15:41 <juliank> I still need to take half a day this month! 15:41 <schopin> 29th afternoon? 15:41 <juliank> Probably like next Wednesday afternoon? 15:41 <bdrung> I am taking my remaining days at the end of the month 15:41 <juliank> Rather ad-hoc when it's sunny and nobody wants to meet 15:42 <enr0n> I will be out most of next week. Starting Tuesday afternoon, and will be back the following Monday 15:43 <bdmurray> I'll be working in a different location most of next week 15:44 <schopin> bdmurray: will your working hours change? 15:44 <bdmurray> No 15:44 <bdmurray> Same time zone 15:47 <juliank> #endmeeting