== Meeting information ==

 * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team meeting, started by juliank, 15 Feb at 16:01 — 16:47 UTC.
 * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-02-15-16.01.log.html



== Meeting summary ==

=== Lightning rounds ===

Discussion started by juliank at 16:01.

 * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-02-15/   (juliank, 16:02)

=== Release incoming bugs ===

Discussion started by juliank at 16:12.

 * ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 16:12)
 * ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 16:15)

=== Team proposed-migration report ===

Discussion started by juliank at 16:20.


=== Team proposed-migration report ===

Discussion started by juliank at 16:21.

 * ''LINK:'' https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 16:21)

=== AOB ===

Discussion started by juliank at 16:44.




== People present (lines said) ==

 * vorlon (63)
 * juliank (21)
 * bdmurray (8)
 * Skia (7)
 * schopin (7)
 * bdrung (6)
 * ginggs (4)
 * slyon (4)
 * adrien (3)
 * pushkarnk (3)
 * meetingology (2)
 * upils (2)
 * xypron (2)
 * mkukri (1)
 * ogayot (1)
 * mateus-morais (1)
 * dviererbe (1)
 * ravikant_ (1)
 * dbungert (1)
 * waveform (1)
 * cpete (1)



== Full log ==


 16:01 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team

 16:01 <meetingology> Meeting started at 16:01:26 UTC.  The chair is juliank.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology

 16:01 <adrien> \o

 16:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick

 16:01 <mkukri> o/

 16:01 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds

 16:01 <ginggs> o/

 16:01 <pushkarnk> o/

 16:01 <ogayot> o/

 16:01 <mateus-morais> o/

 16:01 <upils> o/

 16:01 <Skia> o/

 16:01 <slyon> o/

 16:02 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-02-15/

 16:02 <dviererbe> o/

 16:02 <bdrung> \o

 16:03 * vorlon waves

 16:04 <ravikant_> o/

 16:04 * schopin scrambles to write a couple of sentences for his status.

 16:05 <slyon> adrien: you need this: https://salsa.debian.org/ci-team/autopkgtest/-/merge_requests/287 (I built a .deb out of this locally, which fixes my autopkgtest env)

 16:05 <xypron> \o

 16:06 <slyon> adrien: oh wait... this is not about sbuild, just plain autopkgtest-virt-lxd

 16:07 <adrien> yeah, it's an uncommon setup; and it's kind of complicated: sbuild tries to run schroot inside an ephemeral lxd and there's obviously no schroot set up and I don't know if I'm missing something or if it's broken

 16:12 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs

 16:12 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 16:13 <juliank> bug 1874272

 16:13 <juliank> I have a solution outlined and we should take it

 16:14 <juliank> bug 2049686 is fixed no?

 16:15 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 16:15 <juliank> (mm was nothing new)

 16:16 <juliank> bug 2053174

 16:16 <schopin> do we support installs without lsb-release?

 16:17 <juliank> this is for jammy

 16:17 <juliank> and it should depend on lsb-release

 16:18 <bdmurray> Yes, but we should just back port bdrung's patch.

 16:18 <vorlon> note that adding dependencies in an SRU has a higher bar of scrutiny

 16:19 <vorlon> vs switching to /etc/os-release which we know we can rely on in jammy

 16:19 <bdmurray> I think it does depend on lsb-relese

 16:19 <vorlon> ok

 16:19 <juliank> we agreed to backport, I tagged it

 16:20 <juliank> And ff is empty

 16:20 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report

 16:21 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report

 16:21 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs

 16:21 <vorlon> top of list is update-motd which I am annoyed to see there and I have just uploaded the fix

 16:23 <bdrung> apport should resolve itself by today's upload of 2.27.0-0ubuntu7

 16:23 <vorlon> pyyaml vs crmsh: sounds like crmsh is in hand with Skia from last week, please follow through

 16:23 <Skia> sure

 16:23 <vorlon> iso-codes vs pycountry was also with Skia ; I think bdmurray had pinged me with a request for input and I had to punt

 16:24 <schopin> apport vs py3.12 has been presumably been fixed in -proposed

 16:24 <vorlon> do we need to have someone else look at this besides / in addition to Skia?

 16:24 <bdmurray> I've asked Skia if it is worth keeping the new iso-codes given pycountry breakage.

 16:24 <Skia> I'm sure it's needed, I'm following the work on this with the help of bdmurray

 16:25 <bdmurray> Skia: which it is needed?

 16:25 <vorlon> schopin: you have ansible* marked as 'done' from last week but autopkgtest regressions still show; please retrigger?

 16:25 <vorlon> or reopen / fix better :)

 16:25 <Skia> bdmurray: to have someone else look at this? did I misunderstood something?

 16:26 <schopin> vorlon: I split the card in two (investigation vs implementation) as requested by Ravi (or Samir?) as the implementation is substantial.

 16:26 <vorlon> I don't see mention of python3-defaults vs booth being assigned previously. bdmurray: let's give this to Tim

 16:26 <vorlon> schopin: so do you have the "implementation" card assigned to you and in this pulse?

 16:27 <vorlon> you do

 16:27 <vorlon> sorry for missing it

 16:27 <schopin> No worries.

 16:27 <Skia> vorlon: I think the preliminary investigation pointed that to also being the fault of crmsh, but that would require confirmation

 16:27 <vorlon> Skia: "that"?

 16:27 <bdmurray> Skia: I just prefer precision as opposed to it and its that are misinterpretable.

 16:27 <Skia> vorlon: booth vs python3-defaults

 16:28 <vorlon> Skia: ok well I think it should still be investigated in parallel given the time constraints

 16:28 <Skia> sure

 16:28 <vorlon> python3 vs dolfin/dolfinx-mpc I understand is with ginggs

 16:28 <vorlon> + fenics-dolfinx

 16:28 <vorlon> and possibly the Miami Dolphins

 16:29 <vorlon> and the French dauphin

 16:29 <vorlon> gpiozero is with WaVeR

 16:29 <vorlon> no

 16:29 <vorlon> gpiozero is with waveform

 16:29 <vorlon> I'm gonna try to go fast here to get to the new stuff so please yell if any of these need to be handed off otherwise I'm assuming the current assignments are good and on track for resolution by next Thu

 16:30 <vorlon> which NEEDS TO HAPPEN so we can get the python3 transition through and make room for other stuff before DebianImportFreeze

 16:30 <vorlon> jupyter-notebook is dbungert

 16:30 <ginggs> i believe gpiozero is fixed

 16:30 <dbungert> correct, I expect that done today

 16:30 <waveform> gpiozero should be fixed by the 2.0.1 upload this morning, so I'm free for another

 16:30 <pushkarnk> I have looked at python-werkzeug vs onionshare before

 16:30 * juliank prefers to chase down all his gnupg 2.4 regressions fwiw

 16:30 <vorlon> python3-defaults vs lamassemble is not listed as currently assigned; adrien please take?

 16:31 <vorlon> libapache2-mod-python is with dviererbe

 16:31 <vorlon> meson is with mkukri

 16:31 <vorlon> passenger is with mateus-morais

 16:32 <vorlon> pyflakes is not previously assigned; bdrung please

 16:32 <bdrung> ack

 16:32 <vorlon> pygrib is not previously assigned; bdmurray please

 16:32 <bdmurray> blah

 16:33 <vorlon> python-ansible-compat - schopin do you know offhand if this is related to the other ansible stuff and should be included

 16:33 <bdmurray> I think I added it to big_packages with no success

 16:33 <schopin> vorlon: dunno but sounds likely.

 16:33 <vorlon> python-ansible-compat: schopin but if it's unrelated please feel free to raise a flag to get it broken out to someone ele

 16:33 <vorlon> +s

 16:34 <adrien> I like that proposed migrations leads one to discover new packages (very often scientific ones surprisingly :) )

 16:34 <vorlon> python-django-debug-toolbar assigned to rkratky

 16:34 <vorlon> also python-django-extensions

 16:34 <vorlon> python-mitogen assigned to enr0n_

 16:35 <vorlon> all, please commit time as soon as possible to get these fixed so the release team doesn't have to chase them over the next week to get python3-defaults migrated

 16:35 <vorlon> python-oauth2client is with ogayot

 16:35 <vorlon> python-hug is "waiting" for an i386 autopkgtest, I'll look at that

 16:36 <vorlon> coreutils: this was a security team upload now stalled. cpete please?

 16:36 <cpete> ack

 16:36 <vorlon> glib2.0 is entwined w/ python3-defaults indirectly via gobject-introspection

 16:37 <vorlon> dpkg: xypron please

 16:37 <xypron> ok

 16:37 <vorlon> glibc: schopin do you have this, do you need any release team support?

 16:38 <schopin> I have this, I'll ask for hinting as all actual regressions are already carded and scheduled for investigation post FF (too much to land beforehand)

 16:39 <vorlon> "waiting" for feature-check> this has gone awol and doesn't even show on update_excuses.html, I'll retrigger

 16:40 <vorlon> llvm-toolchain-14 vs pygments: juliank please

 16:40 <vorlon> juliank: make that pygments as a whole please

 16:41 <vorlon> there's also llvm-toolchain-14 vs protobuf: slyon ?

 16:41 <slyon> ok

 16:41 <vorlon> have just retriggered missing tests for dh-cargo; ginggs please give that to me explicitly for follow-up

 16:41 <ginggs> vorlon: ack

 16:41 <vorlon> tzdata: upils?

 16:41 <bdrung> i'll take tzdata

 16:42 <vorlon> ok

 16:42 <upils> oh ok

 16:42 <bdrung> tzdata just needs some tests retriggered

 16:42 <vorlon> pushkarnk: do you want to *continue* looking at python-werkzeug vs onionshare or do you want someone else to take this?

 16:42 <pushkarnk> I can continue

 16:42 <vorlon> ok

 16:42 <vorlon> and that's the list

 16:42 <vorlon> thanks

 16:43 <vorlon> juliank:

 16:44 <bdrung> vorlon, apport 2.27.0-0ubuntu7 is in the new queue (for the new binary package (for systemd-coredump support)). can you have a look?

 16:44 <vorlon> bdrung: ack will look

 16:44 <juliank> #topic AOB

 16:44 <bdmurray> Monday is a US holiday

 16:44 <vorlon> ginggs: btw adios2 is also blocked by fenics-dolfinx and blocks python3-defaults

 16:45 <ginggs> vorlon: ack

 16:45 <vorlon> ginggs: also slepc4py :)

 16:46 <vorlon> and the last thing I can see right now from update_excuses that's not assigned wrt python3-defaults is unity ftbfs on armhf

 16:46 <vorlon> ah due to a builder going away

 16:46 <vorlon> so retriggered

 16:47 <juliank> #endmeeting



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