12:26 <DiogoConstantino> #startmeeting
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12:26 <coolbhavi> Cheers to our first meeting after resurrection
12:26 <DiogoConstantino> #chair DiogoConstantino
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12:27 <youngbin> #meetingtopic Ubuntu LoCo Council Meeting 2024-02-09
12:27 <DiogoConstantino> so let's start
12:27 <DiogoConstantino> #meetingtopic Ubuntu LoCo Council Meeting 2024-02-09
12:28 <DiogoConstantino> do we want to add something to the order of work?
12:28 <youngbin> we have meeting agenda. maybe you want to use #topic command to set agenda item
12:29 <DiogoConstantino> #topic Review CC Meeting on 2023-09-26 and derived subtopics
12:29 <coolbhavi> Yes .. wanted to know about the new loco portal progress
12:29 <youngbin> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/loco-council-meeting-schedule-and-agenda/42037
12:29 <DiogoConstantino> coolbhavi: we will add that to the end
12:29 <coolbhavi> Thanks
12:31 <DiogoConstantino> so reviewing the summary
12:31 <DiogoConstantino> I see that there was a lot about the LoCo Council reboot
12:31 <DiogoConstantino> including shedule for meetings
12:32 <DiogoConstantino> are we all confortable with this schedule?
12:32 <coolbhavi> +1
12:32 <youngbin> +1
12:32 <DiogoConstantino> +1
12:32 <kanashiro> +1
12:32 <youngbin> btw what agenda are we currently discussing?
12:33 <DiogoConstantino> Review CC Meeting on 2023-09-26 and derived subtopics
12:33 <youngbin> #topic Review CC Meeting on 2023-09-26 and derived subtopics
12:33 <DiogoConstantino> #topic Review CC Meeting on 2023-09-26 and derived subtopics
12:34 <DiogoConstantino> since I'm the chair I don't know if the bot will take into consideration your entries
12:34 <youngbin> yup i think so
12:35 <DiogoConstantino> so I propose we continue to use the current schedule for meeting every month?
12:35 <mapreri> hello, sorry I'm late!
12:35 <DiogoConstantino> or do you feel we should meet more often?
12:35 <youngbin> hello!
12:36 <DiogoConstantino> hi mapreri?
12:36 <coolbhavi> Hello mapreri
12:36 <coolbhavi> Current schedule looks good for me
12:36 <DiogoConstantino> his this day of the week and time of the day good for meetings?
12:37 <mapreri> monthly's good
12:37 <DiogoConstantino> ok
12:37 <mIk3_08> I think once or  twice a month
12:37 <mIk3_08> is good
12:37 <mIk3_08> I agree with mapreri
12:37 <youngbin> either once or twice a month im good with both :)
12:37 <DiogoConstantino> lets start with once, we can increase if needed
12:37 <youngbin> +1
12:38 <mIk3_08> +1
12:38 <DiogoConstantino> +1
12:38 <coolbhavi> I agree too and I am flexible with the timings too
12:38 <coolbhavi> +1
12:38 <mapreri> for timings, I normally can do any time, I have very few things I can't move around.
12:38 <DiogoConstantino> ok so I don't think there's anything else on this topic, do you agree?
12:38 <coolbhavi> Yes
12:38 <youngbin> yup i think we can move on to next topic
12:39 <DiogoConstantino> #topic LoCo Council Communication
12:40 <DiogoConstantino> so besides using discourse, to announce hour meetings and decisions, how else, should be communicate and for what purposes?
12:40 <coolbhavi> I am active on Matrix and it just suits me better for quick chat
12:40 <youngbin> maybe we can have a public room on ubuntu matrix server
12:40 <DiogoConstantino> we should definitively use that
12:41 <DiogoConstantino> I heard something being worked on by Mauro, or the intetion for it
12:41 <coolbhavi> Rest I think discourse and mailing lists are fine..
12:41 <DiogoConstantino> do any of you know more about it?
12:41 <coolbhavi> youngbin: any idea?
12:41 <mIk3_08> how about the not official member of Ubuntu can access matrix?
12:41 <youngbin> i would also like to ask should we keep rebooter group on telegram or ask people in that room to new matrix room later?
12:42 <DiogoConstantino> there was the intention to move I believe
12:42 <mapreri> totally pls keep telegram, until there are enough people on matrix, at least (I'm not yet… :( )
12:42 <youngbin> mIk3_08: you can join the room with non ubuntu.com account :)
12:42 <DiogoConstantino> we can bridge it maybe
12:42 <youngbin> mapreri: surely we can do things slowly
12:43 <mIk3_08> youngbin. Thanks
12:43 <youngbin> agreed we an setup bridge until all folks moved to matrix
12:43 <DiogoConstantino> so lets follow up with Mauro, on that, and setup the bridge when we have the matrix channel
12:43 <mapreri> oh the topic of discourse, I think as council we should monitor ("watch") several boards - should we keep a list of somewhere of what all of us are supposed to monitor?
12:44 <coolbhavi> Yes.. anyway since youngbin is active on matrix.. can have a quick chat anytime
12:44 <DiogoConstantino> mapreri: we should definitively, all those rellated with LoCo's
12:44 <mIk3_08> That is good idea mapreri.
12:44 <mapreri> like, apparently https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/locos/loco-support/156 + https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/locos/docs/130 + … like the meeting agenda, that was posted in the mail board, but I don't want to subscribe that as it would notify for all suboards?
12:45 <coolbhavi> Discourse.. keeping a list of pages is required I think for any loco team update tracking
12:45 <DiogoConstantino> maybe we can also do a regular report of LoCo activity, not just on discourse
12:45 <coolbhavi> +1
12:45 <DiogoConstantino> keep an eye also on the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter
12:46 <coolbhavi> +1
12:46 <DiogoConstantino> +1
12:47 <DiogoConstantino> so we can mabe open a pad every week and contribute to it
12:47 <youngbin> discourse have notification so maybe we can just subscribe to category. loco report activity on other places also sounds good
12:47 <mapreri> DiogoConstantino: mhh, activity of what are you talking about, sorry?
12:47 <mapreri> of each loco?
12:47 <DiogoConstantino> I would say anything we find relevant
12:48 <DiogoConstantino> it doesn't need to be all
12:48 <mapreri> mh, I fear you are too optimist :)
12:48 <DiogoConstantino> just the things we find more interesting
12:48 <youngbin> btw are we on "Review the LoCo (re)validation procedure" topic?
12:48 <DiogoConstantino> something different that a LoCo is doing
12:48 <DiogoConstantino> youngbin: not yet
12:48 <mIk3_08> :-D mapreri
12:48 <DiogoConstantino> still on communication
12:48 <coolbhavi> Like ubucon updates for instance..
12:49 <DiogoConstantino> or some new iniciative
12:49 <coolbhavi> +1
12:49 <DiogoConstantino> an inovation
12:50 <DiogoConstantino> so maybe we can come up with proposals for this
12:50 <DiogoConstantino> in writting
12:50 <DiogoConstantino> for next meeting
12:50 <DiogoConstantino> and we vote on it
12:50 <coolbhavi> Would love to have a discussion on structuring of loco teams some day
12:50 <DiogoConstantino> do you agree?
12:50 <coolbhavi> +1
12:50 <DiogoConstantino> +1
12:51 <DiogoConstantino> ok
12:51 <DiogoConstantino> so also still regarding communication
12:51 <youngbin> so we're going to collect loco activities on pad?
12:52 <kanashiro> sorry guys, I had a last minute concurrent meeting but I am reading the backlog
12:52 <DiogoConstantino> youngbin: the idea is to come up with a proposal on what to do about it
12:52 <DiogoConstantino> a vote on it next month
12:52 <DiogoConstantino> I feel the concept needs to be developed
12:53 <mapreri> my take on that is that my loco really has no such wide/interesting activities that are worth reporting monthly… even yearly.  We are basically mostly carrying on.
12:53 <DiogoConstantino> that's what we want to change
12:53 <mapreri> so asking for "reports" is imho both a "push to actually do more interesting stuff" and "damn they want me to do paperwork"
12:53 <mapreri> not sure what wins of the two
12:53 <coolbhavi> Can we send proposals and ideas on mailing list or do you prefer elsewhere?
12:54 <kanashiro> which mailing list?
12:54 <mapreri> indeed, this should be flashed out elsewhere, not in this meeting
12:54 <DiogoConstantino> there's a LoCo council mailing list
12:54 <youngbin> so i understand the purpose is that we want to have some insights of what locos are doing?
12:54 <DiogoConstantino> but let's put them on discourse
12:54 <mIk3_08> :)
12:55 <mIk3_08> mapreri
12:55 <DiogoConstantino> I'll create a topic on that
12:55 <mapreri> ty
12:55 <DiogoConstantino> and we can post it there
12:55 <coolbhavi> Thanks
12:55 <DiogoConstantino> is it ok?
12:55 <kanashiro> I believe we first need to understand how healthy are the locos to then try to take any action to improve them, not sure if you guys have an idea about how locos are doing
12:55 <DiogoConstantino> I have on some
12:55 <DiogoConstantino> not all
12:55 <DiogoConstantino> most are incipient at this point
12:56 <DiogoConstantino> and some are letargic
12:56 <DiogoConstantino> some are however very active
12:56 <kanashiro> sharing those things would be great for the new people like me :)
12:56 <DiogoConstantino> *are very
12:56 <coolbhavi> Can we have a survey a general one covering the issues and pain points if any for a start?
12:56 <DiogoConstantino> that's a good idea
12:57 <kanashiro> that'd be a good start IMO
12:57 <DiogoConstantino> +1
12:57 <youngbin> yup soduns like good idea :)
12:57 <youngbin> +1
12:57 <coolbhavi> +1
12:57 <kanashiro> +1
12:57 <DiogoConstantino> ok we shall prepare one
12:57 <coolbhavi> Yes
12:58 <mapreri> that's likely point 5 of this meeting? kinda…
12:58 <DiogoConstantino> each of us come up with questions, and we can make a final version next month
12:58 <coolbhavi> Seems good
12:58 <youngbin> sounds good. do we want to organize some action items before moving on?
12:58 <mapreri> but of course, I agree.
12:58 <DiogoConstantino> well lets just reorganize and go back to the topics
12:59 <mapreri> please.
12:59 <youngbin> ok
12:59 <mIk3_08> cool DiogoConstantino..
12:59 <DiogoConstantino> continuing on communication
12:59 <DiogoConstantino> how do we promote/communicate the idea of LoCos?
12:59 <DiogoConstantino> and where?
12:59 <DiogoConstantino> this is also part of our mission
13:00 <DiogoConstantino> can we maybe do an Ubuntu On Air session?
13:00 <coolbhavi> Social media and in opensource conferences and on YouTube?
13:01 <coolbhavi> +1 for ubuntu on air
13:01 <youngbin> we can think about what loco do first. what loco usually do would be gathering folks interested in ubuntu and foss in their region
13:01 <DiogoConstantino> that's a good idea, there's a lot we alreay know
13:02 <DiogoConstantino> but maybe we don't know a lot
13:02 <DiogoConstantino> I do know a bit about Europe
13:02 <coolbhavi> Exactly
13:02 <kanashiro> at least for me (who is new to this subject in Ubuntu) it is hard to say when I do not understand well who we are trying to reach out exactly. That's why I mentioned that understanding the current state would help in any further action
13:02 <DiogoConstantino> also what Lina reported from Colombia
13:02 <kanashiro> but I understand you guys have more knowledge than me on this
13:02 <coolbhavi> +1 to kanashiro here
13:03 <mapreri> it seems that we are not ready to talk about promotion at all to me
13:03 <DiogoConstantino> ok
13:03 <mapreri> first step is listing out what we have (locos , then work from there.
13:03 <coolbhavi> Lets develop from grassroots level first
13:03 <mapreri> first step is listing out what we have (locos + what they are doing right now), then work from there.
13:03 <kanashiro> +1
13:03 <DiogoConstantino> ok
13:03 <DiogoConstantino> +1
13:03 <coolbhavi> +1
13:03 <mapreri> about that
13:04 <DiogoConstantino> do tell
13:04 <mapreri> we have a loco-council@lists.ubuntu.com private mail list, which I believe nobody subscribed us to.  I'm sure we will eventually need that private thing.  Should I liaise with IS to take it over?
13:04 <DiogoConstantino> yes please
13:05 <mapreri> (i have a previous experience on taking over MLs…)
13:05 <youngbin> Oops my network on laptop got disconnected:(
13:05 <coolbhavi> I am on that list from over 10 years
13:05 <mapreri> coolbhavi: do you have the admin pw?
13:05 <coolbhavi> Because of my last term
13:05 <mIk3_08> me, in my loco. im doing some fbpage. sad to say. only few followers i have in ubuntu page in social media.
13:05 <youngbin> Agreed with mapreri said before mentioned before mailing list
13:05 <DiogoConstantino> so we all agree
13:05 <DiogoConstantino> nice
13:06 <coolbhavi> mapreri: I am afraid I lost it as it got inactive 7 years ago
13:06 <DiogoConstantino> let's just do the vote on the bot thing
13:06 <mIk3_08> i agree with mapreri too.
13:06 <youngbin> And yes, I also agree with mailing list for some private thing
13:06 <kanashiro> sorry guys, but I will need to leave in around 5 minutes. I'll read the notes/backlog later
13:07 <DiogoConstantino> #voters kanashiro mapreri coolbhavi DiogoConstantino youngbin
13:07 <meetingology> Current voters: DiogoConstantino, coolbhavi, kanashiro, mapreri, youngbin
13:07 <youngbin> Thanks for joining kanashiro :)
13:07 <DiogoConstantino> #vote +1
13:07 <meetingology> Please vote on: +1
13:07 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
13:07 <meetingology> +1 received from DiogoConstantino
13:07 <coolbhavi> +1
13:07 <meetingology> +1 received from coolbhavi
13:07 <youngbin> +1
13:07 <meetingology> +1 received from youngbin
13:07 <kanashiro> +1
13:07 <meetingology> +1 received from kanashiro
13:07 <mapreri> +1 although I'm sure what we are voting on right now? :$
13:07 <meetingology> +1 although I'm sure what we are voting on right now? :$ received from mapreri
13:07 <DiogoConstantino> on your proposal
13:07 <coolbhavi> Thanks kanashiro .. btw
13:08 <mapreri> oh good, yes +1 :P
13:08 <DiogoConstantino> to first get to know
13:08 <DiogoConstantino> then promote
13:08 <coolbhavi> Yes
13:08 <mIk3_08> i have to go people. Thanks! cheers.
13:08 <DiogoConstantino> I'll try to make it more obvious next vote
13:08 * kanashiro says goodbye to everyone o/
13:09 <DiogoConstantino> do you all have to go?
13:09 <DiogoConstantino> we can leave the rest for next meeting if you do
13:09 <coolbhavi> I can stay on
13:09 <youngbin> Can stay more too
13:09 <mapreri> I'm also here
13:09 <DiogoConstantino> ok
13:09 <DiogoConstantino> so lets continue
13:10 <DiogoConstantino> on to the next topic
13:10 <DiogoConstantino> #topic Review the LoCo (re)validation procedure
13:10 <DiogoConstantino> I see this was already done:
13:10 <DiogoConstantino> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-local-community-verification/36573
13:10 <DiogoConstantino> I just wanted to review with you all
13:11 <DiogoConstantino> and see if we should keep it as is, or is any major change we feel we should do right now
13:11 <youngbin> one questions, should verification-expired loco go through re-verification or fisrt time verification process?
13:12 <DiogoConstantino> I believe re-verefication
13:12 <mapreri> I think we currently have like, 1 or 2 verified locos?  pretty much everything needs to be re-verified
13:12 <mapreri> which makes sense, considering how much changed in the past decade
13:12 <coolbhavi> Ah this one I think we can do it on the terms of ubuntu members team for instance once verified then autorenewal for 2 years with reports to the loco council on the progress
13:13 <youngbin> 🆗
13:13 <coolbhavi> Verification I find a discourse thread easier
13:13 <DiogoConstantino> I agree
13:13 <mapreri> from that post I only have 1 point
13:13 <DiogoConstantino> do tell
13:13 <mapreri> "Add a short overview of the activities undertaken in the LoCo over the past 6 months with links to showcase the same. This can include blog posts, event reports, photos, etc."
13:13 <mapreri> 6 months feels wrong
13:13 <DiogoConstantino> why?
13:14 <mapreri> too short for me
13:14 <coolbhavi> 1 year then
13:14 <DiogoConstantino> how long would you feel confortable and why?
13:14 <coolbhavi> Like the previous year maybe
13:14 <coolbhavi> With summary of all activities
13:15 <mapreri> and they should also talk about future plans (like we ask for previously verified which missed the deadline)
13:15 <coolbhavi> +1
13:15 <meetingology> +1 received from coolbhavi
13:15 <mapreri> DiogoConstantino: do a #endvote pls
13:15 <DiogoConstantino> #endvote
13:15 <meetingology> Voting ended on: +1
13:15 <meetingology> Votes for: 5, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
13:15 <meetingology> Motion carried
13:15 <DiogoConstantino> forgot that
13:16 <mapreri> should I just edit the post?
13:16 <DiogoConstantino> so write a proposal and lets vote on that
13:16 <DiogoConstantino> I like it too
13:16 <youngbin> for me past 1 year also sounds good. for loco done something big. such as UbuCon Asia, Europe. they might got exhausted and want some rest.
13:16 <mapreri> oh I can't edit it.  Aaron being superuser always makes me forget that…
13:17 <coolbhavi> +1 youngbin
13:17 <mapreri> we should ask for us to be admins in https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/locos/docs/130 to be able to edit the first post or something.
13:17 <DiogoConstantino> mapreri: we can do that latter
13:18 <DiogoConstantino> just type here what you propose
13:18 <DiogoConstantino> and we vote
13:18 <DiogoConstantino> then we can pursuit the rest
13:18 <coolbhavi> 1 year timeframe for reverification report
13:19 <mapreri> change point 2 of the verification process with "Add a short overview of the activities undertaken in the LoCo over the past year, with links to showcase them; this includes blog posts, event reports, photos, etc.  Also talk about the future plans of your LoCo."
13:19 <DiogoConstantino> #voters coolbhavi DiogoConstantino youngbin mapreri
13:19 <meetingology> Current voters: DiogoConstantino, coolbhavi, kanashiro, mapreri, youngbin
13:19 <DiogoConstantino> +1
13:19 <youngbin> +1
13:19 <mapreri> err
13:19 <mapreri> you missed #vote
13:19 <youngbin> haha
13:19 <DiogoConstantino> #vote
13:19 <meetingology> Please vote on:
13:19 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
13:19 <DiogoConstantino> #vote +1
13:19 <meetingology> Please vote on: +1
13:19 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
13:19 <mapreri> +1
13:19 <youngbin> #vote + subject right?
13:19 <meetingology> +1 received from DiogoConstantino
13:19 <meetingology> +1 received from mapreri
13:19 <youngbin> +1
13:19 <meetingology> +1 received from youngbin
13:19 <coolbhavi> +1
13:19 <meetingology> +1 received from coolbhavi
13:19 <mapreri> DiogoConstantino: #vote is to *start the voting* not to vote :P
13:20 <DiogoConstantino> +1
13:20 <meetingology> +1 received from DiogoConstantino
13:20 <DiogoConstantino> it works anyway I believe
13:20 <mapreri> endvote pls
13:20 <DiogoConstantino> #endvote
13:20 <meetingology> Voting ended on: +1
13:20 <meetingology> Votes for: 4, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
13:20 <meetingology> Motion carried
13:20 <DiogoConstantino> ok
13:21 <DiogoConstantino> lets move on to the next topic
13:21 <mapreri> the text after #vote is the "title" of what we are voting on
13:21 <mapreri> (and such text gets carried over to the minutes)
13:21 <DiogoConstantino> ah ok
13:21 <DiogoConstantino> #topic Increasing visibility of the rebirth of the LoCo Council
13:22 <DiogoConstantino> so do we need to do something about this, and how?
13:22 <mapreri> (so no "#vote +1" does not cast a vote; the "+1" needs to be the first chars of the line)
13:22 <youngbin> DiogoConstantino: so it's about promoting that we're back?
13:23 <DiogoConstantino> yes
13:23 <coolbhavi> For this we can do a team meeting and stream on Ubuntu on air maybe?
13:23 <coolbhavi> Including the usual discourse social media and uwn
13:24 <mapreri> I think we could do such thing, pulling in LoCo leaders, etc, after having a list of such locos…
13:24 <youngbin> AMA on UbuntuOnAir? discourse, social, blog, uwn also good way to promote
13:24 <mapreri> an AMA could be good.  with the loco leaders :P
13:24 <coolbhavi> Yes
13:24 <DiogoConstantino> we can also use it to announce the survey
13:24 <coolbhavi> Yes
13:25 <youngbin> yups agreed that we should reach out loco leaders first. im actually trying to reach out VN loco (since fossasia happening in Hanoi early April)
13:25 <DiogoConstantino> so the idea is to do an AMA on Ubuntu On Air, and announce the survey?
13:26 <coolbhavi> Yes
13:26 <DiogoConstantino> ok lets vote on it
13:26 <DiogoConstantino> #vote to do an AMA on Ubuntu On Air, and announce the survey?
13:26 <meetingology> Please vote on: to do an AMA on Ubuntu On Air, and announce the survey?
13:26 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
13:27 <coolbhavi> +1
13:27 <meetingology> +1 received from coolbhavi
13:27 <youngbin> +1
13:27 <meetingology> +1 received from youngbin
13:27 <DiogoConstantino> +1
13:27 <meetingology> +1 received from DiogoConstantino
13:27 <DiogoConstantino> #voters coolbhavi youngbin DiogoConstantino mapreri
13:27 <meetingology> Current voters: DiogoConstantino, coolbhavi, kanashiro, mapreri, youngbin
13:28 <mapreri> +1
13:28 <meetingology> +1 received from mapreri
13:28 <youngbin> +1
13:28 <meetingology> +1 received from youngbin
13:28 <DiogoConstantino> +1
13:28 <meetingology> +1 received from DiogoConstantino
13:28 <coolbhavi> +1
13:28 <meetingology> +1 received from coolbhavi
13:28 <mapreri> (#votes is good for the whole duration of the meeting, no need to write it all the time)
13:28 <DiogoConstantino> ah
13:29 <DiogoConstantino> ok
13:29 <DiogoConstantino> #endvote
13:29 <meetingology> Voting ended on: to do an AMA on Ubuntu On Air, and announce the survey?
13:29 <meetingology> Votes for: 4, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
13:29 <meetingology> Motion carried
13:29 <DiogoConstantino> next topic?
13:29 <youngbin> yups
13:29 <DiogoConstantino> #topic Identification of existing LoCo’s and prospective LoCo’s
13:30 <DiogoConstantino> so this is pretty much what we also want to do with the survey, but the propective LoCo's is also in here
13:30 <DiogoConstantino> we also want to know what people need to take the next step
13:31 <DiogoConstantino> and become an official LoCo
13:31 <DiogoConstantino> I feel it's slightly different
13:31 <DiogoConstantino> the issues might be different
13:31 <DiogoConstantino> and the help we can spare might also be different
13:31 <coolbhavi> Survey and manual reachout will help here I guess.. as far as I remember there was a tool called locolint which checked the basics of active or inactive last time I was around
13:32 <DiogoConstantino> we should split this into two paths/groups of questions on the survey
13:32 <DiogoConstantino> coolbhavi: I never heard of that before
13:33 <DiogoConstantino> should be this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoLint
13:33 <youngbin> https://launchpad.net/locolint i think so...?
13:34 <DiogoConstantino> we can try to check it
13:34 <coolbhavi> Yes
13:34 <coolbhavi> https://launchpad.net/locolint
13:34 <DiogoConstantino> but this is more for the (re)validation I believe
13:35 <DiogoConstantino> or ?
13:35 <coolbhavi> Yes but more features can be added
13:36 <mapreri> I really don't think we need to be so analytical about the current LoCo tbh.
13:36 <DiogoConstantino> so anyway we can use the Ubuntu On Air to appeal LoCo Leaders to contact us and prospective Loco teams as well
13:36 <DiogoConstantino> at FOSDEM, we tried to promote LoCo's so I expect something to come from that
13:37 <coolbhavi> +1 maperi as we are just restarting :)
13:37 <youngbin> agreed with mapreri. and what DiogoConstantino done at fosdem sounds good :)
13:38 <coolbhavi> Same here
13:38 <DiogoConstantino> so no specific action point besides the appeal on the stream, right?
13:38 <youngbin> me and coolbhavi plan to have booth on fossasia too we can also do LoCo promo there
13:38 <DiogoConstantino> nice
13:38 <coolbhavi> Yes
13:39 <DiogoConstantino> ok lets move on to the next topic
13:39 <mapreri> i kind of envision just mailing all locos and ask you "do you exist?  what's your name?  what are you doing lately?"
13:39 <mapreri> and from there invite them for a chat in that call maybe.
13:39 <youngbin> mapreri: yup that would be also something we can try
13:40 <DiogoConstantino> I don't think it would be a good fit for a stream, but a private call yes
13:40 <DiogoConstantino> with the LoCo Leaders
13:40 <coolbhavi> +1 kind of reminds me of the developer advisory team in 2013
13:40 <DiogoConstantino> kind of an office hour for the LoCo Leaders
13:41 <coolbhavi> Exactly
13:41 <DiogoConstantino> I like it because it will be complementary to the survey, we can include ont he survey a question regarding the usefullness and schedule for such thing
13:42 <DiogoConstantino> anything else?
13:42 <coolbhavi> That's what the developer advisory team was doing with the developers in the community back in 2012 reach out, survey, office hour and summary
13:43 <DiogoConstantino> as it appears there's nothing else on the topic
13:43 <DiogoConstantino> lets move on to the next
13:43 <youngbin> yups we can move on
13:43 <DiogoConstantino> #topic Identification of additional LoCo support structures
13:43 <DiogoConstantino> so what I mean about this
13:44 <DiogoConstantino> is something like the Ubuntu Europe Federation
13:44 <DiogoConstantino> which is an association of European Ubuntu LoCo's
13:44 <DiogoConstantino> that tries to help Ubuntu LoCo's in similar ways to the LoCo Council, but also, by being a legal represation to sign contracts and such
13:45 <coolbhavi> +1
13:45 <DiogoConstantino> some of the LoCo's are already associations
13:45 <DiogoConstantino> most are not
13:45 <youngbin> so kind of fiscal host and legal partner for locos?
13:45 <DiogoConstantino> yes
13:45 <DiogoConstantino> this is what the Ubuntu Europe Federation does
13:45 <youngbin> would need some more discussion. but agree that it would be useful :)
13:46 <DiogoConstantino> it's facilitated by the legal interoperabilidaty in Europe
13:46 <coolbhavi> Need one for India too looking at the challenges of Ubucon Asia
13:46 <DiogoConstantino> coolbhavi: is the Free Software Foundation India not a thing?
13:46 <DiogoConstantino> maybe they would be willing
13:47 <DiogoConstantino> https://fsf.org.in/
13:47 <coolbhavi> Yes but they have their own challenges
13:47 <coolbhavi> Even SFI
13:47 <youngbin> I remember India LoCo actually using FOSSUnited for UbuCon Asia but seems like it has some limitation due to regulation.
13:47 <coolbhavi> Yes
13:48 <DiogoConstantino> so there's nothing like Ubuntu Europe elsewhere...
13:49 <coolbhavi> None that I am aware of
13:49 <DiogoConstantino> I can see how the EU makes it easier
13:49 <mapreri> indeed
13:49 <DiogoConstantino> well let's keep this in mind, and if ideas on how to overcome this come, take note and mention them on the meetings
13:49 <coolbhavi> Yes being a permanent resident in the EU I can see a lot of advantages
13:49 <mapreri> remember that many countries have plenty of capital controls in place that makes moving money in/out of them annoying, so something similar to Ubuntu EU is hard to recreate cross-countries in other areas of the world.
13:50 <youngbin> I agree with the idea basically. but some loco might have some limitation with access due to local regulation.
13:50 <youngbin> agreed with mapreri
13:50 <youngbin> maybe we can do some research first?
13:50 <mapreri> or not recognizing particular entities from other countries (when talking about signing stuff, etc)
13:50 <DiogoConstantino> youngbin: we should
13:50 <mapreri> but for EU, that's great and useful once it running full steam indeed!
13:51 <coolbhavi> +1 there is a ton of difference I can see and we should do some research
13:51 <DiogoConstantino> in the EU it exits, but it's not operational in practice
13:51 <coolbhavi> From the eu to India I have experience
13:52 <DiogoConstantino> ok lets research and come back to it when we have something
13:52 <DiogoConstantino> next topic:
13:52 <youngbin> sounds good
13:52 <coolbhavi> I am interested
13:52 <DiogoConstantino> #topic LoCo outreach
13:53 <DiogoConstantino> we have already talked about it a bit, but is there something you want to add?
13:53 <youngbin> well i added this topic but seems like we have already discussed on previous topics
13:53 <coolbhavi> Lets start with survey for the outreach and take it step by step
13:53 <DiogoConstantino> ok
13:54 <mapreri> yep
13:54 <DiogoConstantino> so now it's time for coolbhavi to report on the Indian Loco?
13:54 <coolbhavi> Yes.. we are hosting ubucon Asia this year in Jaipur India
13:54 <DiogoConstantino> #topic coolbhavi to report on the Indian Loco
13:55 <DiogoConstantino> how's that comming along?
13:55 <youngbin> so seems like it's part of AOB :)
13:55 <coolbhavi> And the team is working on negotiating the venue now
13:55 <DiogoConstantino> is there something we can do to help?
13:55 <coolbhavi> This years ubucon Asia is on aug 31 to September 2
13:56 <DiogoConstantino> now, or something you predict for the next few months?
13:56 <coolbhavi> Will reach out incase help is required in the coming months
13:57 <DiogoConstantino> ok
13:57 <coolbhavi> Right now we are working on logistics and it has its own challenges in the regulations in India
13:57 <DiogoConstantino> is there something that surprised you?
13:58 <DiogoConstantino> maybe it will surprise any other Ubucon organizer elsewhere
13:58 <coolbhavi> Actually we planned for a joint event with gnome asia and that is also under discussion
13:58 <DiogoConstantino> nice
13:59 <coolbhavi> No surprises till now as we expected challenges due to regulations
13:59 <coolbhavi> And we are working around it
13:59 <DiogoConstantino> I and a few people from Debian are planning to try DebConf 26 in Portugal, and if we can we also try Ubucon Europe here the days before
14:00 <coolbhavi> Only surprise is the venue asking for 50 percent of ticket sales as venue fees
14:00 <coolbhavi> So we are negotiating
14:00 <youngbin> coolbhavi: many thanks for the work :) looking forward to see UbuCon Asia happening in Jaipur
14:00 <DiogoConstantino> yes
14:01 <DiogoConstantino> keep it up
14:01 <youngbin> coolbhavi: So the fee rate is depending on ticket pricing?
14:01 <coolbhavi> Welcome and yes we are excited too
14:01 <youngbin> i think i will be also busy with organizing events: UbuCon Asia, UbuCon KR, DebConf24 so many lol
14:02 <DiogoConstantino> yes
14:02 <DiogoConstantino> those are a lot
14:02 <DiogoConstantino> I have less
14:02 <coolbhavi> youngbin: they are not bothered about the fee rate they need 50 percent of whatever ticket sales
14:02 <DiogoConstantino> UbunCon Portugal which will be during the Free Software Festival, and I'm part of the orga for both
14:02 <coolbhavi> Which I have a meeting on Monday
14:02 <youngbin> :+1
14:03 <coolbhavi> As exams are still going on in parts of the country
14:03 <mapreri> coolbhavi: ticket 0$, just ask for donations :P
14:03 <DiogoConstantino> ;P
14:03 <coolbhavi> That's my worst case scenario
14:04 <coolbhavi> Haha
14:04 <DiogoConstantino> we only charged for the first Ubucon Europe
14:04 <DiogoConstantino> but we got meals for free
14:04 <DiogoConstantino> in return
14:04 <DiogoConstantino> all others where gratis
14:05 <coolbhavi> Hmm good point will negotiate and come up with more details next meeting
14:05 <mapreri> personally I'll need to go in ~15 mins, FYI
14:05 <DiogoConstantino> I also
14:05 <DiogoConstantino> so lets end here
14:05 <youngbin> same
14:05 <coolbhavi> Same here
14:05 <youngbin> next meeting and chair?
14:05 <DiogoConstantino> let's do the next one on the 8th of March?
14:05 <coolbhavi> I am fine
14:06 <youngbin> sure
14:06 * mapreri checking
14:06 <mapreri> March 8th looks good to me yep
14:06 <DiogoConstantino> ok I'll check with Kanashiro
14:06 <DiogoConstantino> if it's ok with him we can announce it
14:07 <DiogoConstantino> #endmeeting