20:04 #startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board 20:04 Meeting started at 20:04:01 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 20:04 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 20:04 #topic Apologies 20:05 amurray is the only one who refused the calendar event but he seems around? 20:05 no email on the list from what I can see 20:05 #topic Action review 20:05 vorlon mentioned in a private channel that he would be afk 20:05 ok 20:05 * seb128 seb128/amurray/sil2100 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage 20:06 amurray is ooo on my calendar 20:06 right, I said that :) 20:06 i'm here ;) 20:07 so on the tracks usage, I replied to a comment 20:07 unsure what is missing for us to be able to move forward from where we are 20:07 amurray, any opinion on what should be the next steps there? 20:08 yeah I am also a bit unsure - I wonder if we need a google meet session or similar to review the remaining comments as a group? 20:09 or we need to engage the store team to figure out if they can support the requirements 20:10 ok, let's carry over and I will take an action item to set up a meeting specifically to discuss that topic 20:10 including other stakeholders if needed 20:10 #action: seb128/amurray/sil2100 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage 20:11 thanks 20:11 #action: seb128 to organize a meeting to unblock the draft of the tracks usage section 20:11 Apologies, I got totally distracted 20:11 * seb128 rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification 20:11 sil2100, hey! 20:11 Carry over please 20:11 #action rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification 20:11 * meetingology rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification 20:12 * seb128 rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps 20:12 Also carry over sorry 20:12 #action rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps 20:12 * meetingology rbasak to follow up on finding consensus on question of test plans for third party apps 20:12 * seb128 rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy 20:12 Same 20:12 #action rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy 20:12 * meetingology rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy 20:12 * seb128 seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations 20:12 carrying over that one also 20:12 #action seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations 20:12 * meetingology seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations 20:13 #action vorlon to write up draft guidelines for packages in the archive that download from the Internet 20:13 * meetingology vorlon to write up draft guidelines for packages in the archive that download from the Internet 20:13 I'm carrying that one over since I didn't see an update and Steve is not here 20:13 * seb128 seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu cinnamon on 24.04 request 20:14 I didn't see a reply, I need to nudge them so I'm carrying it over 20:14 #action seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu cinnamon on 24.04 request 20:14 * meetingology seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu cinnamon on 24.04 request 20:14 * seb128 sil2100 to send confirmation of successful LTS status for Ubuntu Studio 24.04 20:15 that's done, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/002846.html 20:15 Done! 20:15 Indeed 20:15 good to have one item done :) 20:15 * seb128 amurray to send confirmation of successful LTS status for Edubuntu 24.04 20:16 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/002845.html 20:16 done 20:16 ;) I think amurray did his as well! 20:16 indeed! 20:16 yep 20:16 * seb128 seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu budgie on 24.04 request 20:16 I didn't get a reply here either so need to nudge them 20:16 #action seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu budgie on 24.04 request 20:16 * meetingology seb128 to follow-up with ubuntu budgie on 24.04 request 20:16 * seb128 amurray to follow-up with ubuntu kylin on 24.04 request 20:17 that happened as well I think? 20:17 sorry I think I need to carry this over 20:17 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/002844.html ? 20:17 or was there another follow up needed? 20:17 gah yes I forgot 20:18 I overlooked that in my backlog, I will add my vote after the meeting 20:18 I think I did vote, right? 20:18 yes, and Steve 20:19 I'm going to send my +1 in a bit 20:19 amurray, I'm giving you an action item to send the confirmation of the vote result then if that's ok? 20:19 yes thats fine 20:19 #action amurray to send confirmation of successful LTS status for Ubuntu Kylin 24.04 20:19 * meetingology amurray to send confirmation of successful LTS status for Ubuntu Kylin 24.04 20:20 #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) 20:20 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/date.html 20:20 o/ :) 20:20 we have a request from Lubuntu to be LTS 20:21 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-January/002849.html 20:22 Since I finished mine, maybe I could get assigned to it then 20:22 sil2100, what would be the action item? 20:22 the request seems reasonable so maybe we just need to vote? 20:22 We can, but I didn't read it! Yet 20:23 sil2100, but thanks, let me add an action to review and call for a vote? 20:23 #action sil2100 to review the lubuntu LTS participation request and follow up as appropriate (question or call for vote) 20:23 * meetingology sil2100 to review the lubuntu LTS participation request and follow up as appropriate (question or call for vote) 20:23 I'm happy to answer any questions here or at a later point about Lubuntu's application. :) 20:23 sil2100, ^ sounds fine? 20:24 Looks fine o/ Are you and amurray ready to vote as is? 20:24 yes 20:24 I want to read the emails again since I only glanced over them but it feels like it is ready 20:25 let's just do a call for vote on the list rather than trying to do it here today 20:25 did any of you had questions here today for tsimonq2 since he joined the meeting for us? 20:25 I'm leaving it up to you. I'd like someone to do a proper review of it - if someone already did it, I'm fine with voting 20:26 no need to rush I would say 20:26 no, his email is very detailed and covers everything I would have wanted to know 20:26 you have an action item 20:26 we can call for vote on the list once you have reviewed it 20:26 no question from me either 20:26 Ok o/ 20:27 tsimonq2, no question it seems but thanks for taking the time to join the meeting in case we had some 20:27 #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs 20:27 Hey, one more thing on this topic, briefly... 20:27 tsimonq2, sure? 20:28 (no activity on the community bugs and techboard bugs) 20:28 Actually, two, sorry. I noted lack of cooperation generally speaking on that email, and I've seen a drastic change for the better. I still have some (genuine) questions around the SRU Team given recent events, but I'm planning a postmorteum on virtualbox anyway. 20:29 Also, I appointed Aaron and Dan as assistant release managers, there's no direct action required from the TB, but a "hey we see this" would be great. :) 20:29 Well I asked and was told that no response was expected? 20:30 Yes :) I'm glad you saw it, just making a general point to it. 20:30 Anyway, those are the points I have, happy to answer any questions. 20:30 I'm not aware the SRU team situation you are referencing to but it doesn't seem to be a TB topic at this point? 20:31 aware of* 20:31 I'm not sure either. 20:32 My general point is, asking for requalification is a two-way agreement. We are happy to provide support for Lubuntu, the only reason I brought it up is to ensure we have support on the other side to be able to move the needle forward. 20:32 tsimonq2, and I've seen the email about the assistant release managers :-) 20:32 seb128: thanks :) 20:32 ok, so seems there is no question/action there but thanks for mentioning those! 20:32 Yes of course :) 20:32 #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members) 20:33 I wonder if there's an opportunity to be talking more via the flavour syncs or something similar 20:33 I promise I'll be here in time for the next one so you can keep me as chair ;) 20:33 next in the list is Steve and Lukasz as backup 20:33 Because I'm seeing noises, but without specifics, I'm not in a position to be able to help at all. 20:33 vorlon, hey, and thanks! 20:35 rbasak, yes, the flavor syncs is a good venue for project discussions with flavor 20:35 flavors 20:35 As far as I'm aware, the TB has an open invite to the Flavor Syncs. If you talk to the Community Team (specifically ilvipero_), he should be able to get you an invite. 20:35 #topic AOB 20:35 Please do arrange for the SRU team and/or TB to be invited if there's a specific agenda item you have in mind that you'd like to discuss 20:36 Absolutely, just finishing with my notes on this one. Thanks :) 20:36 I usually try to join at least the European tz compatible meeting and I think sil2100 has been to some of those as well 20:37 I'm not aware of having been invited recently 20:37 That sounds like a mistake to me :) 20:37 I think it's an open venue, ask Mauro to be added to the calendar invite if you wish to join 20:38 I usually join as a desktop representative, afaik we didn't have any formal request to have TB members there before 20:38 but I think we should at least review the invite list according to the topics on the agenda 20:39 that's not a meeting the TB own though, but I will still try to ensure we invite the right people 20:39 Just pinged the appropriate people to get you all invites. :) 20:39 :) 20:39 My IRC client with issues. :) 20:39 Thanks! 20:39 ok, I think that should be enough for that topic then 20:40 another other topic? 20:40 giving 3 min and if not then it's a wrap 20:41 rbasak: I understand it's an action item, but an additional poke on the DMB inactivity stuff :) 20:41 nothing from me 20:41 I did get frightened for a minute at Aaron's MOTU meeting. 20:41 * tsimonq2 is good 20:42 tsimonq2: I've not been focused on that because it's usually worked out recently 20:42 If people start getting near the threshold then I'll definitely prioritise that 20:42 Okay :) 20:43 alright, seems we are done then 20:43 Also it was very close to the New Year and I'd expect some disruption/unavailability around then. 20:43 Very true. 20:43 thanks everyone!! 20:43 let's wrap? 20:43 The plans won't change that since it's only sustained absence that would be actionable 20:44 I'm okay wrapping, I believe we're on the same page. 20:44 ok, it's a wrap then, thanks everyone! 20:44 Yeah, I need to apologize for missing out many DMB meetings lately 20:45 #endmeeting