== Meeting information ==

 * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team meeting, started by juliank, 07 Dec at 16:01 — 16:52 UTC.
 * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-12-07-16.01.log.html



== Meeting summary ==

=== Lightning rounds ===

Discussion started by juliank at 16:01.

 * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-07-december-2023/   (juliank, 16:01)

=== Release incoming bugs ===

Discussion started by juliank at 16:10.

 * ''LINK:'' https://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 16:11)
 * ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 16:20)
 * ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 16:21)
 * ''LINK:'' http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 16:22)

=== Team proposed-migration report ===

Discussion started by juliank at 16:30.

 * ''LINK:'' https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs   (juliank, 16:30)

=== AOB ===

Discussion started by juliank at 16:49.




== People present (lines said) ==

 * juliank (72)
 * schopin (7)
 * bdrung (5)
 * bdmurray (5)
 * slyon (5)
 * ravikant_ (3)
 * adrien (3)
 * upils (3)
 * meetingology (2)
 * waveform (2)
 * adrien_web (2)
 * mkukri (2)
 * dviererbe (1)
 * danilogondolfo (1)
 * dbungert (1)
 * xypron (1)
 * zhsj (1)
 * mateus-morais (1)
 * ogayot (1)



== Full log ==


 16:01 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team

 16:01 <meetingology> Meeting started at 16:01:44 UTC.  The chair is juliank.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology

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 16:01 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds

 16:01 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-07-december-2023/

 16:02 <ravikant_> o/

 16:03 <dviererbe> o/

 16:09 <bdrung> adrien, can you link the openssl discussion from your discource post?

 16:10 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs

 16:10 <bdmurray> I was still reading

 16:10 <bdmurray> too many people on the team

 16:11 <juliank> Reading is time bound to 10 minutes!

 16:11 <juliank> #link https://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 16:11 <juliank> It seems we do not acutally have https right now

 16:11 <schopin> bdmurray: and think if we all wrote as lengthy posts as yours!

 16:12 <juliank> lots of old bugs

 16:12 <juliank> bug 1831747

 16:13 <bdrung> yes, we should tag that one.

 16:13 <adrien> bdrung: done

 16:13 <juliank> bug 1969394

 16:13 <juliank> hmm that is still desktop design work

 16:16 <juliank> bug 2043713

 16:16 <juliank> what's the status there?

 16:16 <adrien> bdmurray: not too many people: people being too productive

 16:18 <juliank> bug 2015538 I don't know we probably should move it to oo

 16:18 <slyon> We still want to get dbus-broker landed, but are looking for someone with the resources to implement the missing bits and pieces (dbus-run-session). Nothing to do for us right now.

 16:18 <slyon> I guess we could probably remove the tag

 16:20 <juliank> bug 2017401 I still need to sync on that

 16:20 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 16:20 <juliank> oh empty

 16:21 <juliank> oh I forgot mm, didn't I

 16:21 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 16:21 <juliank> both bugs there are actually for desktop, and co-owned things

 16:21 <juliank> bug 2041518

 16:21 <juliank> bug 2041831

 16:21 <juliank> (jftr)

 16:22 <juliank> OK jumping back to LTSses

 16:22 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs

 16:22 <juliank> bug 2044104

 16:22 <juliank> schopin:

 16:23 <schopin> Yeah I need opinions from the people on the team that know things about initramfs :)

 16:24 * bdrung hides.

 16:24 <juliank> We don't know what all the acronyms mean

 16:24 <schopin> Basically zdev adds some udev rules, but might not want to ship them depending on some settings.

 16:25 <schopin> Either we provide an escape hatch from our initrd script that currently ships all the installed udev rules into the initrd, or we modify the s390-tools packaging to remove the offending rules after the fact (dunno how that would work, though)

 16:26 <juliank> I do not believe the skip every rule with 41 is a good idea tbh

 16:28 <schopin> I think we should tag this and find a volunteer to look into it.

 16:29 <slyon> +1

 16:29 <bdrung> +1 (i can assist on the initramfs-tools side)

 16:29 <schopin> bdrung: sounds like you're volunteering to take that card :P

 16:30 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report

 16:30 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs

 16:31 <juliank> libauthen-sasl-perl is with waveform still I think

 16:31 <waveform> that one's just waiting on an AA to kill it, feel free to give me another

 16:31 <juliank> libio-prompter-perl is with danilogondolfo still I think

 16:31 <juliank> waveform: ack

 16:31 <danilogondolfo> yes

 16:31 <juliank> libuv1 is with ginggs

 16:32 <juliank> We'll skip python3-defaults stuff

 16:32 <juliank> pillow broken by python-svg.path/6.3-1: bdrung

 16:33 <bdrung> okay

 16:33 <juliank> efibootmgr mkukri

 16:33 <adrien> I'm unable to take on anything because of armhf time_t which is on a very tight deadline now

 16:33 <slyon> I cannot take anything, as I'll be out for the next couple of weeks

 16:33 <juliank> libcgi-pm-perl:  cpete

 16:33 <juliank> apt: juliank

 16:34 <juliank> libffi: dbungert

 16:34 <dbungert> ack

 16:34 <juliank> gcc-13-cross: doko

 16:35 <juliank> libfido2: waveform

 16:35 <waveform> ack

 16:35 <upils> I can take psycopg2

 16:35 <juliank> psycopg2 upils

 16:36 <ravikant_> isnt psychopg2 armhf?

 16:36 <upils> oh right -_-

 16:36 <schopin> could be why upils volunteered ;)

 16:37 <ravikant_> yes, Error: websocket: bad handshake

 16:37 <juliank> ok so psychopg2 and sqlite3 I guess are just retries bdmurray will retry

 16:38 <adrien_web> abi-compliance-checker is OOM'ing my machine (10

 16:38 <juliank> systemd: enr0n (probably just retry too)

 16:38 <adrien_web> G times four)

 16:38 <juliank> bash is also infra issues really but ...

 16:39 <juliank> bash: upils might want to retry those

 16:39 <juliank> OK let's skip everything with armhf only

 16:40 <juliank> libfile-fcntllock-perl blocking perl: schopin by personal request

 16:40 <juliank> skipping over the big Perl section

 16:40 <bdmurray> sbuild looks legit

 16:41 <juliank> sbuild blocking perl: upils

 16:41 <juliank> (finally)

 16:41 <juliank> distro-info-data I'd say bdrung wants to also look at this but really utkarsh uploaded that so mmh

 16:42 <juliank> oof

 16:42 <juliank> just armhf

 16:42 <upils> ack

 16:42 <bdmurray> zlib also has some non-armhf failures

 16:42 <mkukri> coreutils blocked by initramfs-tools on amd64? or is that a known thing?

 16:42 <juliank> zlib vs booth/1.0-237-gdd88847-4ubuntu3: xypron

 16:43 <juliank> zlib vs burp: slyon

 16:43 <xypron> ok

 16:43 <zhsj> juliank: slyon is out next week, i can take zlib vs burp

 16:43 <juliank> zlib vs burp: zhsj (reassigned from slyon)

 16:44 <juliank> zlib vs mdtraj: mateus-morais

 16:44 <mateus-morais> juliank: ack

 16:44 <juliank> zlib vs ruby-nokogiri ogayot

 16:44 <ogayot> juliank: ack

 16:45 <juliank> zlib vs suricata: liushuyu

 16:45 <bdmurray> git

 16:46 <juliank> git vs dumb-jump-el/0.5.4-2: pushkar (don't know nick)

 16:46 <juliank> git vs git-filter-repo: vpa1977

 16:46 <juliank> never mind

 16:48 <juliank> coreutils / initramfs-tools  with bdmurray and Skia

 16:48 <juliank> And I think that's a wrap on that bit

 16:49 <juliank> sil2100 might want to pick up an item if he has time

 16:49 <juliank> #topic AOB

 16:50 <juliank> I planned to take a day off before the break but I think it's not going to happen, lol

 16:50 <slyon> I'll be EOY after this meeting. Have a nice break :)

 16:50 <juliank> I'll be taking a 3 week break though, I'll only be back on Jan 8 I think it is

 16:51 <mkukri> im gone from the 13th, and back on jan 3rd

 16:52 <juliank> #endmeeting



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