19:04 <seb128> #startmeeting Developer Membership Board
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19:04 <seb128> ok, let me take that one and get started
19:05 <bdmurray> thanks seb128
19:05 <seb128> let's start with the application review since we have one today
19:05 <seb128> #topic Ubuntu Core Developer application for lvoytek
19:06 <seb128> lvoytek, hey, welcome, do you want to maybe start by introducing yourself?
19:06 <seb128> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LenaVoytek/UbuntuCoreDeveloperApplication
19:06 <lvoytek> Hi all! I'm Lena Voytek. I am from Arizona, USA, and I work for Canonical as a part of server distro. I have been on the team for just over two years, and gained server package upload permissions in January.
19:07 <seb128> great, thanks lvoytek!
19:07 <seb128> let's start with questions for lvoytek
19:08 <seb128> has anyone questions they would like to ask?
19:09 <kanashiro> since Lena is a colleague of mine and I already endorsed her application, I'll let the questioning for the others :)
19:10 <seb128> the wikipage is quite detailled, good work, I think that cover most of the aspect of work needed by a coredev
19:10 <lvoytek> thanks :)
19:10 <seb128> let me still ask one
19:11 <seb128> lvoytek, could you tell us what are the different freezes in the Ubuntu release cycles and where you could find their dates?
19:11 <lvoytek> Sure thing, you can find them here for noble specifically: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-release-schedule/35649, I'll list them out
19:12 <lvoytek> Feature freeze is when new content (non bug fix) items need to be in, unless you go through the FFe process
19:13 <lvoytek> Debian import freeze (same day) is when packages from debian stop syncing automatically
19:14 <lvoytek> Others are self explanatory but I can go further if needed. The other important one for me is beta freeze, where we pause changes to focus on beta testing week
19:14 <lvoytek> Ah then of course final freeze where the release pocket freezes and things go to updates after
19:15 <seb128> is there any acception to the final freeze rule you just described?
19:16 <seb128> and no need to details the other freezes
19:16 <lvoytek> Only critical/security related bugs can go out after final freeze
19:16 <lvoytek> or other exceptional circumstances
19:17 <seb128> thanks
19:17 <bdmurray> rbasak mentions your plan to defer updating MySQL for noble. Could you provide some more details about what lead you to such a decision?
19:17 <lvoytek> Ah yeah I sent out an email about that today
19:18 <lvoytek> Basically MySQL 8.4 is the next LTS but it comes out in April, so there's no possible way to get it into Noble on time, so we have to stick with 8.0, which at least is in support for 2 more years
19:19 <lvoytek> 8.2/8.3 are interrim releases and not advisable for an LTS
19:21 <bdmurray> Okay, that sounds very reasonable to me.
19:22 <seb128> any other question for lvoytek?
19:23 <bdmurray> None from me
19:23 <seb128> not from me
19:23 <seb128> teward, any from you?
19:24 <seb128> seems not, let's go to vote then!
19:25 <seb128> #vote Grant CoreDev to LenaVoytek
19:25 <meetingology> Please vote on: Grant CoreDev to LenaVoytek
19:25 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname')
19:26 <bdmurray> +1 I really appreciated the amount of details in your application, it made reviewing it quite easy.
19:26 <meetingology> +1 I really appreciated the amount of details in your application, it made reviewing it quite easy. received from bdmurray
19:26 <seb128> +1 from me, I think the work described on the wiki is quite high standard and there are a number of solid endorsements
19:26 <meetingology> +1 from me, I think the work described on the wiki is quite high standard and there are a number of solid endorsements received from seb128
19:28 <seb128> teward, kanashiro ?
19:29 <kanashiro> I was waiting for teward to be the last one
19:29 <kanashiro> +1 , not much to add :)
19:29 <meetingology> +1 , not much to add :) received from kanashiro
19:30 <seb128> ok, now it's annoying, we need teward to vote to have the quorum right?
19:31 <kanashiro> I think so
19:32 <seb128> he was around at the start of the meeting, unsure if we should wait a bit longer on him to return or not :/
19:33 <arraybolt3> Knowing him he probably got sucked into a meeting that will end a few seconds after the DMB meeting (though I just tried to ping him over Telegram elsewhere to get his attention)
19:33 <seb128> arraybolt3, thanks
19:33 <seb128> let's wait one more minute...
19:35 <seb128> ok, seems he's not around, maybe we can try to do another vote before the end of the meeting if he shows up, otherwise we will have to continue via emails to reach a decision
19:35 <seb128> #endvote
19:35 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Grant CoreDev to LenaVoytek
19:35 <meetingology> Votes for: 3, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0
19:35 <meetingology> Motion carried
19:36 <seb128> lvoytek, thanks, and sorry we don't have a decision yet for you
19:36 <lvoytek> It's alright, thanks all!
19:36 <seb128> let's cover the other topics
19:36 <seb128> #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign
19:37 <seb128> there is https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2023-November/002373.html which already got discussed by the TB previous week
19:38 <seb128> tsimonq2 was requesting we review arraybolt3's for motu, but the TB conclusion was that Aaron needs to write an application
19:39 <arraybolt3> (which I'm in the process of doing and intending to submit for the December 11th DMB meeting)
19:39 <seb128> I would expect that to be also the DMB position unless someone disagrees or has something they want to add?
19:39 <kanashiro> we had an informal discussion about this last meeting
19:39 <kanashiro> and we agreed on that too
19:39 <seb128> ok, so let's move on, that was the only mailing list email which wasn't handled
19:40 <seb128> arraybolt3, ack, thanks
19:40 <tsimonq2> seb128: Was that TB or DMB? I don't think I was at the last TB meeting?
19:40 <seb128> ok, time is flying and I got confused then :p
19:40 <seb128> sorry
19:40 <tsimonq2> No worries. I've been sponsoring uploads for arraybolt3 like mad, and he's really getting stronger. I hope you all can review his application soon :)
19:40 <seb128> I remembered having a recent meeting discussion about it and didn't got back to check logs
19:40 <seb128> #topic Open TB bugs
19:40 <seb128> no open bug
19:41 <seb128> #topic AOB
19:41 <seb128> any other topics?
19:41 <bdmurray> The Agenda page lists a meeting on the 25th which I'll remove.
19:41 <bdmurray> I'll be here for the the 11th will anyone else?
19:42 <kanashiro> I will
19:42 <seb128> I will
19:42 <kanashiro> should we try to fix this chairing issue? Start a rotation to be fair with everyone
19:42 <arraybolt3> If someone wants to review my preliminary application draft and tell me if there's anything I'm missing that would be handy.
19:42 <seb128> kanashiro, well, we don't have a quorum, but I will email the list about it
19:42 <arraybolt3> (obviously it's not finished yet, more packages will be added to the list of 'work I'm proud of' among other things)
19:42 <seb128> arraybolt3, sure, can you share the url?
19:42 <arraybolt3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArrayBolt3/MotuApplication
19:42 <seb128> ack, thanks
19:42 <arraybolt3> thanks!
19:43 <seb128> anything else?
19:43 <kanashiro> thanks for starting the discussion via email seb128 :)
19:43 <seb128> np!
19:44 <kanashiro> I think that is it
19:44 <seb128> right, and teward didn't come back so we will continue the vote via the mailing list, I will send a follow up email
19:44 <seb128> #endmeeting