16:00 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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16:00 <ogayot> o/
16:01 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
16:01 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-23-november-2023/40502
16:01 <bdrung> \o
16:02 <mateus-morais> o/
16:02 <Skia> o/
16:02 <upils> o/
16:02 <ravikant_> o/
16:04 <slyon> waveform: I just sponsored your xfsprogs sync
16:04 <waveform> thanks!
16:04 <bdrung> adrien, did you document the armhf issues caused by -fstack-clash-protection in a launchpad bug?
16:06 * juliank saw it documented in Debian :D
16:06 <bdrung> If not, please open a launchpad bug and link the Debian bugs to it
16:07 <mkukri> i believe he did: https://code.launchpad.net/~adrien-n/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+git/dpkg/+merge/456181
16:07 <mkukri> and steve uploaded dpkg with the change now
16:09 <juliank> I guess final answer will have to be done out-of-meeting
16:09 <adrien> bdrung: no
16:10 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
16:10 <juliank> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
16:10 <juliank> bug 2037004 I'm inclined is actually an ubuntu-drivers-common issue
16:10 <adrien> I didn't have that much time to do but also, I wasn't exactly sure how to write it down in an LP bug (well, I can describe it but it seemed highly unnatural)
16:10 <bdrung> adrien, next time you could open a dummy bug report that you reference in d/changelog. The bug description can be extended even after the upload.
16:11 <adrien> that's a very compelling point
16:11 <juliank> Reassigned the bug to ubuntu-drivers-common
16:11 <juliank> Now it's desktop's issue :D
16:11 <juliank> bug 1616262
16:12 <bdrung> adrien, it will be easier for someone in the future to get to the launchpad bug from the changelog entry to get the reasoning for this change.
16:12 <juliank> Well this is invalid
16:13 <juliank> bdrung: This should be Won't Fix; /boot is required to have space for 3 kernels
16:13 <bdrung> we could implement https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1616262/comments/6
16:13 <juliank> Or at the very least not incoming
16:13 <juliank> This is not a system configuration we are looking to support
16:13 <juliank> The workaround proposed is non-atomic meaning you can end up without a kernel
16:14 <waveform> precisely
16:15 <juliank> I'll wontfix with comment
16:15 <juliank> bug 1969394
16:16 <juliank> I think this is a desktop thing since it involes design stuff
16:17 <juliank> bug 2026310 is an annoying thing for mkukri to figure out
16:19 <juliank> So I tagged this foundations-todo
16:19 <juliank> bug 2041491
16:20 <slyon> This is a controversal issue. We should probably first find consensus within the Netplan sync.
16:20 * slyon removing the tag
16:20 <juliank> thanks slyon
16:20 <juliank> bug 2042100
16:20 <slyon> This one is already assigned (during proposed-migration). I've removed the tag, too
16:21 <juliank> thanks again
16:21 <juliank> 2042790
16:21 <juliank> bug 2042790
16:22 <juliank> I think we will look at this later again there are things inflight
16:23 <juliank> bug 2043713
16:23 <juliank> bdrung: ^
16:24 <adrien> that actually looks like our -fstack-clash-protection issue
16:24 <juliank> possibly
16:24 <juliank> adrien: Can you leave something on the bug to that effect?
16:24 <bdrung> then let's check if is will be fixed by disabling -fstack-clash-protection
16:24 <adrien> sudden and unexplained tons of "Invalid size of write 4"
16:24 <adrien> juliank: sure
16:25 <mkukri> it definitely is the same thing
16:25 <juliank> thanks
16:25 <juliank> bug 2015538
16:25 <juliank> Nothing new there I suppose
16:25 <slyon> nothing new.
16:25 <slyon> The system squad could re-consider comment #3
16:25 <slyon> and maybe cycle it back to the desktop team
16:25 <juliank> bug 2017401
16:26 <juliank> I think we'll get back to this later because I don't know what we decided
16:27 <juliank> We had meetings about it, but we didn't record the conclusion in the bug .(
16:27 <juliank> bug 2036604
16:27 <juliank> I'll tag this todo
16:28 <juliank> #link https://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
16:28 <juliank> bug 2041518
16:29 <bdrung> this is for the desktop team for gtk+-3.0
16:29 <juliank> bug 2041831
16:31 <juliank> I don't see anytzhing actionaable right now
16:32 <juliank> bug 2041833
16:33 <juliank> I assigned this to enr0n for further investigation
16:33 <juliank> bug 2041834
16:33 <juliank> I guess I'll also assign this to Nick for further investigation
16:34 <juliank> The stack trace doesn't look unreasonable
16:34 <juliank> OK
16:34 <juliank> so ll is empty
16:35 <juliank> jj is empty
16:35 <juliank> and ff is empty
16:35 <juliank> That's it for bugs
16:35 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
16:35 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
16:36 <bdrung> i'll take distro-info
16:37 <waveform> I've still got libauthen-sasl-perl
16:37 <juliank> libauthen-sasl-perl is with waveform
16:37 <juliank> libio-prompter-perl  is with danilogondolfo
16:37 <danilogondolfo> libio-prompter-perl is with me, I still need to investigate it. It's actually an mir
16:37 <juliank> libuv1 is with ginggs
16:37 <juliank> man-db is with dbungert
16:38 <juliank> nvme-stas is with ogayot
16:38 <juliank> distro-info: bdrung
16:38 <juliank> lazy-object-proxy slyon?
16:39 <slyon> ok
16:39 <juliank> numpy mkukri?
16:39 <juliank> python-apt is done actually
16:40 <adrien> no migration for me please, my plate is full and I've been kept busy by a bunch of them this week :)
16:40 <juliank> python-launchpadlib mateus-morais
16:40 <juliank> adrien: you are still assigned to liblog-any-perl in jira though
16:40 <juliank> maybe it got resolved, idk
16:40 <mateus-morais> juliank: ack
16:41 <juliank> python-ldap upils ?
16:41 <bdrung> cracklib2 looks simple to fix
16:41 <adrien> juliank: yaeh, which I plan to do in > 10 days and actually I hope it's resolved in debian by the time I get to it because I find these migrations (related to liblicense-perl) pretty weird every time
16:41 <upils> juliank: ack
16:42 <juliank> python-werkzeug pushkarnk?
16:42 <pushkarnk> ack
16:42 <juliank> abydos zhsj?
16:43 <zhsj> ack
16:43 <juliank> advocate would be the next one
16:44 <juliank> advocate: cpete?
16:44 <juliank> aioquic: dviererbe
16:45 <juliank> aiosmtplib liushuyu
16:45 <juliank> asgi-lifespan: sil2100
16:45 <juliank> atropos: vpa1977
16:46 <juliank> autoflake xypron
16:46 <juliank> bidict enr0n
16:47 <juliank> bmtk: juliank
16:47 <juliank> anyone else want one?
16:47 <juliank> Anyone wants to create an epic and copy the old ones over?
16:48 <juliank> We need to move this to an pre-generated epic
16:48 <juliank> #topic AOB
16:52 <juliank> Well then let me end the IRC side
16:52 <juliank> #endmeeting