15:00 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team 15:00 <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:00:52 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 15:00 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds[O[I 15:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 15:01 <ogayot> o/ 15:01 <zhsj> o/ 15:01 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds 15:01 <pushkarnk> o/ 15:01 <liushuyu> o/ 15:01 <mateus-morais> o/ 15:01 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-21-sep-2023/ 15:01 <juliank> Let's take until :10 to read and discuss 15:02 <juliank> that's about 8 minutes now 15:02 <mclemenceau> o/ 15:03 <ginggs> o/ 15:04 <bdmurray> I wish discourse would auto-linkfy bugs 15:05 <dviererbe> o/ 15:10 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs 15:10 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:10 <bdmurray> "Writing a lot of text and talking to a couple of people" 15:10 <juliank> bug 2036765 15:10 <vorlon> '-fexcess-precision=' how about if we all just agree to have just enough precision instead of excess precision 15:11 <vorlon> juliank: should be targeted, for sure 15:12 <juliank> tagged and targeted 15:12 <juliank> bug 2036441 15:12 <juliank> bdrung: 15:13 <bdrung> Yes, we should analyze this bug 15:13 <bdmurray> The reporter is questionable 15:14 <vorlon> yeah they're always spamming launchpad with bugs, goes back years 15:14 <bdmurray> lol 15:14 <juliank> bug 2033440 15:14 <juliank> (I tagged previous one and targeted it) 15:15 <juliank> We need better way to handle seed bugs so they don't all appear on our list? 15:16 <vorlon> I don't immediately see good solutions and would rather we not try to overengineer 15:16 <vorlon> we can just say "not for us" and move on 15:16 <vorlon> (I think last week I also said "if I were the desktop team I would wontfix it") 15:17 <juliank> Can't say not for us and keep it on the desktop teams incoming list, so just leave as is? 15:17 <juliank> because we share the list 15:17 <vorlon> yes, just leave as-is 15:17 <juliank> I marked lunar as won't fix fwiw 15:17 <juliank> bug 2036278 15:18 <juliank> Oh we absolutely need this tagged 15:18 <vorlon> well, we fixed the actual bug causing this to happen 15:19 <vorlon> this is more belt-and-braces to be able to stop buggy image builds sooner in the future 15:19 <vorlon> so I wouldn't say we *have* to target it for mantic 15:19 * juliank thinks that should have been done with the fix, but ok 15:19 <vorlon> the fix was in ubiquity, not in livecd-rootfs 15:19 <juliank> I'm not targeting it to mantic but tagged it todo 15:20 <vorlon> ok 15:20 <juliank> bug 2036440 15:20 <danilogondolfo> this guy again 15:21 <vorlon> the gnome-shell part is not us and maybe is a duplicate 15:21 <vorlon> bdmurray: did you want the apport part targeted? 15:22 <juliank> I got lost a bit sorry 15:22 <juliank> The apport part is actually a gnome-shell part, though 15:22 <juliank> AFAIUI 15:22 <bdmurray> Let me check the retarcer and see if there are more "Invalid core dump" issues 15:22 <juliank> The gnome-shell hook should collect more data 15:22 <bdrung> and apport should already collect that information 15:23 <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/2036440/comments/3 15:23 <vorlon> bdmurray: if you're checking, I guess we should move on for now? 15:23 <bdrung> It could be just another case of bug #2015857 15:23 <vorlon> or do you want it targeted 15:23 <juliank> let's move on discussion and we can discuss later so we don't go derail 15:24 <juliank> bug 2036761 15:24 <vorlon> (if there's work for us to do and that we're prioritizing, IMHO better to just target it to document that) 15:24 <vorlon> I guess ppa-purge doesn't need fixed for mantic given the rollback of the transition 15:24 <juliank> there should be a qa-todo :D 15:24 <juliank> vorlon: we rolled back sources.list->ubuntu.sources not ppa .sources 15:25 <vorlon> ah 15:25 <bdmurray> There are half a dozen "not a core dump" failures with Launchpad crash reports 15:25 <juliank> Yeah communication is not clear from everyone 15:25 <vorlon> juliank: in that case I guess we should take it 15:25 <bdmurray> I can't check the Error Tracker retracers b/c reasons 15:25 <juliank> vorlon: Yes 15:25 <bdrung> bdmurray, are those all crashing gnome-shells or are there other affected packages as well? 15:26 <bdmurray> geez 15:26 <bdmurray> so many questions 15:26 <juliank> move that discussion to -devel perhaps? 15:26 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:26 <juliank> empty! 15:26 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:26 <juliank> bug 1990798 15:27 <juliank> It will expire in 37 days, I guess ignore it 15:28 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:28 <juliank> empty! 15:28 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report 15:28 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs 15:28 <dbungert> one more - bug 2036424 15:28 <juliank> oh sorry 15:29 <dbungert> we have a sort of plan for s390x using edge channel core22 for builds, but I don't know if the underlying issue is really resolved 15:29 <dbungert> this appears to have started around glibc sru time but may well be that we're not doing patchelf correctly or similar 15:29 <juliank> Well it needs fixing either way, so just tag and target it 15:29 <dbungert> ok 15:30 <juliank> I think this will create many annoying jira issues 15:30 <juliank> vorlon: 15:30 <juliank> (back to proposed-migration ;)) 15:31 <vorlon> yeah, s390-tools still stuck on this MIR for rust bits 15:31 <vorlon> zsh - liushuyu do you have a patch for i386 to disable building zsh-static? 15:31 <vorlon> if you don't yet, I can cook one today and share it with you for review 15:31 <juliank> (why do we even have zsh i386? :D) 15:31 <liushuyu> vorlon: Haven't got time to write that patch 15:31 <vorlon> juliank: you don't want to know 15:32 <vorlon> juliank: (vlc build-depends on it :P) 15:32 <ginggs> i'm looking at libfile-fcntllock-perl 15:32 <vorlon> libfile-fcntllock-perl: ginggs 15:32 <ginggs> it's the same test that fails in the test rebuild 15:32 <juliank> 🤯 15:33 <vorlon> libevent, this was late because I didn't notice all the no-change rebuilds needed but it is now sorted 15:33 <vorlon> just blocked by freeze 15:33 <juliank> (this was exploding head emoji for those with broken unicode) 15:33 <vorlon> so that's all on proposed-migration for us today 15:33 <juliank> #topic AOB 15:33 <juliank> any other business? 15:34 <adrien> I'll be away during 3 days next week and won't have time to do proposed-migration probably 15:36 <juliank> adrien: did you get anything assigned or have leftover? 15:36 <adrien> no, the last part of my message was the result of a race condition between messages :P 15:36 <juliank> ah 15:36 <juliank> sorry 15:37 <adrien> sorry about that ;p 15:37 <juliank> That wraps things up I think 15:37 <juliank> #endmeeting