15:00 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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15:00 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds[O[I
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15:01 <ogayot> o/
15:01 <zhsj> o/
15:01 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
15:01 <pushkarnk> o/
15:01 <liushuyu> o/
15:01 <mateus-morais> o/
15:01 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-21-sep-2023/
15:01 <juliank> Let's take until :10 to read and discuss
15:02 <juliank> that's about 8 minutes now
15:02 <mclemenceau> o/
15:03 <ginggs> o/
15:04 <bdmurray> I wish discourse would auto-linkfy bugs
15:05 <dviererbe> o/
15:10 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
15:10 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:10 <bdmurray> "Writing a lot of text and talking to a couple of people"
15:10 <juliank> bug 2036765
15:10 <vorlon> '-fexcess-precision=' how about if we all just agree to have just enough precision instead of excess precision
15:11 <vorlon> juliank: should be targeted, for sure
15:12 <juliank> tagged and targeted
15:12 <juliank> bug 2036441
15:12 <juliank> bdrung:
15:13 <bdrung> Yes, we should analyze this bug
15:13 <bdmurray> The reporter is questionable
15:14 <vorlon> yeah they're always spamming launchpad with bugs, goes back years
15:14 <bdmurray> lol
15:14 <juliank> bug 2033440
15:14 <juliank> (I tagged previous one and targeted it)
15:15 <juliank> We need better way to handle seed bugs so they don't all appear on our list?
15:16 <vorlon> I don't immediately see good solutions and would rather we not try to overengineer
15:16 <vorlon> we can just say "not for us" and move on
15:16 <vorlon> (I think last week I also said "if I were the desktop team I would wontfix it")
15:17 <juliank> Can't say not for us and keep it on the desktop teams incoming list, so just leave as is?
15:17 <juliank> because we share the list
15:17 <vorlon> yes, just leave as-is
15:17 <juliank> I marked lunar as won't fix fwiw
15:17 <juliank> bug 2036278
15:18 <juliank> Oh we absolutely need this tagged
15:18 <vorlon> well, we fixed the actual bug causing this to happen
15:19 <vorlon> this is more belt-and-braces to be able to stop buggy image builds sooner in the future
15:19 <vorlon> so I wouldn't say we *have* to target it for mantic
15:19 * juliank thinks that should have been done with the fix, but ok
15:19 <vorlon> the fix was in ubiquity, not in livecd-rootfs
15:19 <juliank> I'm not targeting it to mantic but tagged it todo
15:20 <vorlon> ok
15:20 <juliank> bug 2036440
15:20 <danilogondolfo> this guy again
15:21 <vorlon> the gnome-shell part is not us and maybe is a duplicate
15:21 <vorlon> bdmurray: did you want the apport part targeted?
15:22 <juliank> I got lost a bit sorry
15:22 <juliank> The apport part is actually a gnome-shell part, though
15:22 <juliank> AFAIUI
15:22 <bdmurray> Let me check the retarcer and see if there are more "Invalid core dump" issues
15:22 <juliank> The gnome-shell hook should collect more data
15:22 <bdrung> and apport should already collect that information
15:23 <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/2036440/comments/3
15:23 <vorlon> bdmurray: if you're checking, I guess we should move on for now?
15:23 <bdrung> It could be just another case of bug #2015857
15:23 <vorlon> or do you want it targeted
15:23 <juliank> let's move on discussion and we can discuss later so we don't go derail
15:24 <juliank> bug 2036761
15:24 <vorlon> (if there's work for us to do and that we're prioritizing, IMHO better to just target it to document that)
15:24 <vorlon> I guess ppa-purge doesn't need fixed for mantic given the rollback of the transition
15:24 <juliank> there should be a qa-todo :D
15:24 <juliank> vorlon: we rolled back sources.list->ubuntu.sources not ppa .sources
15:25 <vorlon> ah
15:25 <bdmurray> There are half a dozen "not a core dump" failures with Launchpad crash reports
15:25 <juliank> Yeah communication is not clear from everyone
15:25 <vorlon> juliank: in that case I guess we should take it
15:25 <bdmurray> I can't check the Error Tracker retracers b/c reasons
15:25 <juliank> vorlon: Yes
15:25 <bdrung> bdmurray, are those all crashing gnome-shells or are there other affected packages as well?
15:26 <bdmurray> geez
15:26 <bdmurray> so many questions
15:26 <juliank> move that discussion to -devel perhaps?
15:26 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:26 <juliank> empty!
15:26 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:26 <juliank> bug 1990798
15:27 <juliank> It will expire in 37 days, I guess ignore it
15:28 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:28 <juliank> empty!
15:28 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
15:28 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:28 <dbungert> one more - bug 2036424
15:28 <juliank> oh sorry
15:29 <dbungert> we have a sort of plan for s390x using edge channel core22 for builds, but I don't know if the underlying issue is really resolved
15:29 <dbungert> this appears to have started around glibc sru time but may well be that we're not doing patchelf correctly or similar
15:29 <juliank> Well it needs fixing either way, so just tag and target it
15:29 <dbungert> ok
15:30 <juliank> I think this will create many annoying jira issues
15:30 <juliank> vorlon:
15:30 <juliank> (back to proposed-migration ;))
15:31 <vorlon> yeah, s390-tools still stuck on this MIR for rust bits
15:31 <vorlon> zsh - liushuyu do you have a patch for i386 to disable building zsh-static?
15:31 <vorlon> if you don't yet, I can cook one today and share it with you for review
15:31 <juliank> (why do we even have zsh i386? :D)
15:31 <liushuyu> vorlon: Haven't got time to write that patch
15:31 <vorlon> juliank: you don't want to know
15:32 <vorlon> juliank: (vlc build-depends on it :P)
15:32 <ginggs> i'm looking at libfile-fcntllock-perl
15:32 <vorlon> libfile-fcntllock-perl: ginggs
15:32 <ginggs> it's the same test that fails in the test rebuild
15:32 <juliank> 🤯
15:33 <vorlon> libevent, this was late because I didn't notice all the no-change rebuilds needed but it is now sorted
15:33 <vorlon> just blocked by freeze
15:33 <juliank> (this was exploding head emoji for those with broken unicode)
15:33 <vorlon> so that's all on proposed-migration for us today
15:33 <juliank> #topic AOB
15:33 <juliank> any other business?
15:34 <adrien> I'll be away during 3 days next week and won't have time to do proposed-migration probably
15:36 <juliank> adrien: did you get anything assigned or have leftover?
15:36 <adrien> no, the last part of my message was the result of a race condition between messages :P
15:36 <juliank> ah
15:36 <juliank> sorry
15:37 <adrien> sorry about that ;p
15:37 <juliank> That wraps things up I think
15:37 <juliank> #endmeeting