15:08 <schopin> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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15:08 <schopin> #topic Lightning rounds
15:09 <schopin> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-03-aug-2023/37534
15:09 <schopin> Let's take a few minutes to read each other's status :)
15:10 <schopin> enr0n: re the deb822 migration, doesn't moving stuff from sources.list to ubuntu.sources impact the order of the sources?
15:10 <enr0n> schopin: like order in the file? Or what do you mean?
15:11 <schopin> in the sources.list man page it's stated that "it is important to list sources in order of preference". I'm guessing moving files around will change said order.
15:11 <enr0n> Oh, yeah that's addressed in the spec (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec-apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333).
15:12 <schopin> neat, thanks :)
15:12 <juliank> I'm considering making the order not important
15:12 <juliank> Parallelize downloads if multiple mirrors have same file basically
15:14 <bdrung> didn't we want to have security.ubuntu.com last to prefer pulling stuff from the mirrors instead?
15:16 <juliank> that's true
15:16 <juliank> But we can add and use source priorities for that
15:17 <juliank> I guess they're also pin priorities at the same time :D
15:17 <bdrung> juliank, are source priorities documented somewhere?
15:17 <juliank> They don't exist yet
15:18 <juliank> That's why I wrote *add*
15:18 <bdrung> ah, okay
15:18 <juliank> But I admit I messed up the tenses :D
15:19 <schopin> Anything else?
15:19 <juliank> Please test grub 2.12, I push to mantic release on Monday
15:19 <juliank> :D
15:19 <schopin> Alright, on that note, moving on :)
15:20 <schopin> #topic Release incoming bugs
15:20 <schopin> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:21 <schopin> bug 2028888
15:21 <schopin> That sounds rather unfortunate!
15:22 <juliank> Hmm, should be assigned elsewhere, livecd-rootfs?
15:22 <juliank> the meta package can't force snaps to be installed
15:22 <juliank> Reassign there and tag foundations-todo?
15:22 <dbungert> I don't know if this is a canary issue or a livecd-rootfs issue or an issue with how desktop is restructuring what is part of the default install
15:23 <juliank> it's not a meta package restructuring issue
15:23 <juliank> the deb for firefox is installed as the output says
15:23 <juliank> but the snap isn't
15:23 <juliank> Or I guess the snap needs to be seeded too?
15:24 <juliank> The snap:firefox is in the desktop-minimal seed
15:25 <juliank> But I think next step is analysing image build logs, so it makes sense to assign to livecd-rootfs as a starting point
15:25 <schopin> Sounds good to me, I guess.
15:25 <juliank> lemme update the bug and we can move on in parallel
15:26 <schopin> thanks
15:26 <schopin> bug 2017401
15:28 <schopin> to be handled by server, nothing to do for us.
15:28 <schopin> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:29 <schopin> shared custody, but explicitly tagged by Steve for us.
15:30 <juliank> schopin: what bug are you talking about?
15:30 <ogayot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/2004551
15:30 <schopin> Oh right :)
15:31 <schopin> thanks ogayot
15:34 <schopin> nothing actionable for us there as nobody seems to be able to reproduce it, let's leave the tag to revisit it next week, enr0n to try to look at it meanwhile.
15:35 <schopin> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:35 <schopin> nothing new for us there
15:35 <juliank> also nothing in jammy fwiw
15:36 <schopin> #topic Team proposed-migration report
15:36 <schopin> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:37 <juliank> python-reportlab
15:37 <juliank> MIR stuff to be demoted
15:37 <juliank> cryptsetup blocking linux-meta (6.3.0.7.8 to 6.3.0.7.9) for 15 days
15:39 <zhsj> kmod vs dpdk-kmods needs a retry, just clicked for arm64 and ppc64el (i already clicked retry on amd64 before)
15:39 <juliank> cryptsetup: bdrung
15:40 <bdrung> ack
15:40 <juliank> tpm2-tss: danilogondolfo
15:41 <juliank> sorry
15:41 <juliank> tpm2-tss: dviererbe
15:42 <juliank> vim
15:42 <juliank> I actually uploaded that but have no cycles to investigate the build test failures, soo much flakyness
15:43 <juliank> vim: danilogondolfo (check if retry ppc64el works, maybe dig some more)
15:43 <danilogondolfo> juliank, ack
15:44 <juliank> kmod vs dpdk-kmods: zhsj
15:44 <juliank> which already retried :)
15:45 <juliank> dbus: is with ogayot afaict
15:45 <juliank> dbus-python is the same thing
15:45 <juliank> both are failures in openrazer-drivers missing gcc-12
15:45 <ogayot> juliank: ack, will look at dbus. I uploaded it
15:46 <juliank> You also have a Jira issue for it from July 20
15:46 <juliank> livecd-rootfs blocking lsb-release-minimal
15:46 <juliank> livecd-rootfs blocking lsb-release-minimal: ginggs
15:46 <ginggs> ack
15:47 <juliank> lsb-release-minimal vs zfs-linux: xypron
15:48 <xypron> juliank: next week I on the armhf shift
15:48 <juliank> ok
15:48 <juliank> lsb-release-minimal vs zfs-linux: slyon
15:48 <slyon> ok
15:48 <juliank> e2fsprogs vs initramfs-tools: mateus-morais
15:48 <mateus-morais> ack
15:48 <juliank> e2fsprogs vs livecd-roots livecd-rootfs: enr0n
15:48 <juliank> sigh typo
15:49 <enr0n> ack
15:49 <juliank> curl: pushkarnk
15:49 <pushkarnk> ack
15:50 <juliank> cmake vs khronos-opencl-clhpp: schopin
15:50 <schopin> ack
15:51 <juliank> cmake vs wslay: liushuyu
15:51 <liushuyu> juliank: ack
15:51 <juliank> We ran out of new stuff and people in the meeting so everyone who's not here today gets a free pass
15:51 <juliank> :D
15:52 <juliank> schopin: back to you
15:52 <schopin> thanks
15:52 <schopin> #topic AOB
15:52 <schopin> Any vacation coming up?
15:52 <dbungert> I'm at a conference half of next week, including jammy point release.  ogayot to be on hand to help with subiquity if needed
15:53 <dviererbe> As mentioned in my Discourse Update, I am out for 2 weeks, starting next week
15:54 <ginggs> winter is coming
15:54 <slyon> Feature Freeze is coming up next week
15:54 <ginggs> yes, that :)
15:54 <dviererbe> :D
15:54 <ginggs> https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html
15:54 <enr0n> I thought that was Aug 17
15:54 <ginggs> please do look at your TIL universe merges
15:55 <schopin> slyon: fake news!
15:55 <slyon> sorry my bad :) we have one extra week
15:55 <juliank> Next week is grub 2.12 landing day
15:55 <juliank> :D
15:55 <juliank> And my off week
15:55 <schopin> and glibc too.
15:55 <pushkarnk> juliank:
15:55 <schopin> and openssl
15:56 <juliank> well 2.12~rc1 landing day for mantic release pocket :)
15:56 <pushkarnk> (ignore my empty message)
15:57 <schopin> Anything else?
15:58 <schopin> #endmeeting