15:04 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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15:04 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
15:04 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-27-jul-2023
15:09 <bdrung> dviererbe, redarding the dash merge: I would prefer to see the mmdebstrap autopkgtest made working on Ubuntu
15:10 <schopin> bdmurray: do Tim's changes to autopkgtest mean that we won't need to use retry-autopkgtest-regressions as much?
15:10 <schopin> I mean the tool is still useful, but now I'll be able to just click the link rather than fire up a terminal :)
15:11 <bdmurray> schopin: I still think its useful for queueing things en masse but for one off tests you won't need to use it.
15:11 <dbungert> the retry tool can help group triggered tests together that the web UI won't necessarily offer
15:13 <juliank> Which is problematic in itself
15:13 <juliank> Because it might produce false positives
15:13 <juliank> Or false negatives, imagine one trigger works and the other breaks it, you want to run them separately
15:13 <ogayot> sometimes, retry-autopkgtest-regressions lists URLs for tests that are in progress. Does the fix for bug 2028801 address that as well?
15:14 <mateus-morais> dviererbe: I'll need to bring your dotnet6,7 changes to dotnet8 sometime soon, to avoid bringing back the DOTNET_ROOT bug and to perpetuate the other changes themselves
15:14 <bdmurray> ogayot: no, that's independent but I'd be interested to hear more about the issue with r-a-r that you saw.
15:15 <ogayot> bdmurray: sure, when I hit it, I'll let you know then
15:15 <juliank> it's a bit peculiar because if you iterate over the queue you might not see all items
15:15 <dviererbe> bdrung: LP: 2028868
15:15 <juliank> and there's a race condition where the worker takes it off the queue and and then notifies the frontend it's running it, I think
15:16 <dviererbe> mateus-morais: +1 definetly
15:16 <juliank> Like we had failing tests that looped endlessly, and weren't able to remove them because the worker was always picking them directly, lol
15:16 <juliank> Anyhow, continue?
15:17 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
15:17 <juliank> We have two releases with bugs today
15:17 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:17 <juliank> bug 2027826
15:17 <juliank> vorlon tagged this but is not here
15:17 <dbungert> so steve landed changes for this, outside of livecd-rootfs
15:18 <dbungert> It however hasn't migrated in a while, so I think we should figure out why.
15:18 <dbungert> I know x_nox tagged this block-proposed but there are also failing tests
15:19 <juliank> but that's a different topic than the bug, it not migrating
15:19 <dbungert> Steve's change is intended to address the bug
15:19 <juliank> I understand that
15:21 <juliank> But the bug is not about livecd-rootfs not migrating
15:21 <dbungert> ok
15:22 <dbungert> I think there are no actions to take for this bug, in livecd-rootfs.
15:22 <juliank> I think let's leave it as is, I don't see why it's in the state it is, we can revisit it when we have vorlon if it still is an sisue
15:22 <juliank> bug 2026826
15:23 <juliank> seems fixed
15:23 <danilogondolfo> hm netplan is not affected by it anymore, I wonder if we should remove the tag
15:24 <juliank> sldone
15:24 <juliank> bug 2017401
15:25 <juliank> Ugh this is a complex topic that I don't think this is the right venue to address this in
15:26 <juliank> That's a wider discussion around Pro and update surfacing
15:27 <bdmurray> How can we track if not here?
15:27 <juliank> I do not know
15:28 <juliank> I think this is working as intended for now
15:28 <juliank> And there's a roadmap with improvements scheduled
15:28 <juliank> I think I'll go assign it to server to have a look and comment
15:30 <juliank> this is a bit hacky
15:30 <juliank> but we can get back to it next week if needed
15:30 <juliank> Ah and ff has the same bug only, so we're done with bugs
15:30 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
15:31 <juliank> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:31 <juliank> too many items, aargh
15:32 <juliank> fwupd
15:32 <juliank> bug 2021908
15:32 <bdmurray> Oh, that should be untagged update-excuse
15:33 <juliank> ah it only depends on Depends on glib2.0
15:33 <juliank> pcre2 vs suricata
15:33 <schopin> I'll take that one.
15:34 <mateus-morais> I have pcre2 assigned from last week
15:34 <juliank> ah I missed that
15:34 <schopin> oh well, nevermind then :)
15:34 <mateus-morais> schopin you can take it if you want, haven't been able to find the time :)
15:34 <schopin> Alright, I'll take it.
15:34 <juliank> cdebconf
15:35 <juliank> (2 regressions, seemingly unrelated)
15:35 <adrien> I recently made a merge for cdebconf but I'm not able to follow through due to being on vacation very soon
15:35 <juliank> I see
15:36 <juliank> I'm hacking grub together, I expect to be busy with grub stuff
15:36 <adrien> (I hadn't checked cdebconf migrating)
15:36 <adrien> but at least one issue seems unrelated to my merge and the other I don't know, I haven't found the error yet
15:37 <juliank> cdebconf: juliank
15:37 <juliank> let me be first then
15:38 <juliank> python-reportlab we skip
15:38 <bdrung> groff vs dgit looks like a flaky dgit test case
15:38 <juliank> I see bdrung volunteers to investigate that
15:38 <juliank> :D
15:38 <juliank> groff: bdrung
15:39 <juliank> lots of regressions for init-system-helpersy
15:39 <bdrung> Then someone else has to pick up the initramfs-tools and apport fun
15:39 <ginggs> i'll take groff then
15:40 <juliank> I think it's a retry basically, armhf remote died in middle of test
15:40 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs davmail
15:41 * juliank can roll a dice but it's hard
15:41 <zhsj> juliank: i will take
15:41 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs davmail: zhsj
15:41 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs dbus?
15:42 <pushkarnk> juliank: I'll give it a shot
15:42 <juliank> pushkarnk: I was about to say this looks like an infrastructure issue for QA to deal with
15:42 <pushkarnk> alright :)
15:43 <juliank> bdmurray: can you guys check that?
15:43 <juliank> udev hangs, and then kernel crashes and hence boot doesn't finish
15:44 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs ganglia?
15:44 <bdmurray> juliank: which one?
15:44 <waveform> I can take ganglia
15:44 <juliank> bdmurray: init-system-helpers vs dbus
15:45 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs ganglia: waveform
15:45 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs openafs
15:47 <pushkarnk> I'll take it
15:47 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs openafs: pushkarnk
15:47 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs openvswitch?
15:48 <danilogondolfo> I can take a look
15:48 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs openvswitch: danilogondolfo
15:49 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs prometheus: dbungert
15:50 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs slurm-wlm: ogayot
15:51 <ogayot> juliank: ack
15:51 <juliank> init-system-helpers vs systemd: vpa1977
15:52 <juliank> livecd-rootfs: sil2100
15:52 <juliank> openjdk-17  vs davmail: liushuyu
15:52 <dbungert> juliank: ack
15:53 <juliank> openjdk-17 vs libreoffice needs QA work: bdmurray
15:53 <juliank> libreoffice is blacklisted
15:53 <ginggs> juliank: i retried that one already
15:53 <ginggs> still running, i think
15:53 <juliank> ginggs: it#s blacklisted it shouldn't run?
15:54 <ginggs> i removed it from the list
15:54 <ginggs> since s390x is happy again
15:54 <juliank> curl vs cmake dviererbe
15:54 <bdmurray> for now
15:54 <juliank> curl vs falcosecurity-libs: xypron
15:55 <juliank> curl vs systemd: enr0n
15:55 <enr0n> juliank: ack
15:55 <juliank> curl vs virtualbox: doko
15:56 <juliank> boost1.74 vs bagel: slyon
15:56 <juliank> boost1.74 vs dolfin: mateus-morais
15:57 <juliank> I think everyone has one so let's wrap it up
15:57 <juliank> #topic aob
15:57 <waveform> I'll be out Wed-Fri next week covering school hols
15:58 <bdmurray> I'll be out all of next week
15:59 <juliank> vorlon: I did not give you any proposed-migration, but it would be nice to restructure this into a script that feeds an epic and then people go pick items from that rather than do it in the meeting, as linear nature just wastes time vs free for all
15:59 <juliank> I'll be out the week after next week
15:59 <adrien> I'll be out all of august basically
16:00 <juliank> crypto-configuration sadness
16:00 <juliank> :)
16:01 <juliank> We're out of time!
16:01 <juliank> #endmeeting