15:03 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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15:03 <juliank> #topic Lightning rounds
15:03 <juliank> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-13-april-2023
15:04 <juliank> let's take some minutes to read
15:06 <bdmurray> enr0n: Is there anything worrisome in the u-r-u bug reports? Or are people not upgrading to Lunar yet?
15:06 <enr0n> bdmurray: I have seen very few Lunar upgrades. These are mostly the usual "some PPA broke my upgrade" reports.
15:10 <enr0n> slyon: do you think a fix is needed in systemd for bug 1999178? Or does it seem that udev behaving reasonably given that the syslog group is missing?
15:11 <slyon> enr0n: I'm not yet sure. But doesn't seem critical, as CPC has an easy fix/workaround available now
15:11 <enr0n> slyon: ack
15:11 <slyon> We'll get back to you if some systemd fix would be needed
15:12 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs
15:12 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:12 <vorlon> good discussion about FTBFS fixes this week
15:12 <juliank> bug 2015113
15:12 <vorlon> very nice to see - I think this is the lowest Foundations-owned FTBFS count we've had at a release for a while
15:13 <bdmurray> There's an MP for that which I can sponsor today
15:13 <juliank> Oh I approved that one
15:13 <vorlon> so target and move forward?
15:13 <bdrung> i can sponsor it
15:13 <bdmurray> Right, somebody just needs to "carry it across the finish line"
15:13 <bdmurray> Let's let bdrung do it then
15:14 <juliank> not relevant for the release at least
15:14 <juliank> right?
15:14 <bdmurray> I think the release team can decide that you backseat driver
15:14 <vorlon> probably not release-critical but why quibble, we can just accept the nomination and move on since it's in-flight
15:14 <bdmurray> I'd want it in
15:14 <juliank> just saying pro failures shouldn't be critical on non-pro releases :)
15:15 <vorlon> upgrades from pro-enabled LTSes to non-pro-supported non-LTSes are supported
15:15 <bdmurray> What's next?
15:15 <juliank> bug 2012698
15:15 <juliank> is in progress by desktop I think
15:15 <vorlon> desktop team mostly handles plymouth video issues
15:16 <juliank> bug 2015778
15:16 <juliank> that's an unfortunate difference in just copyright years
15:16 <vorlon> conffile prompt from *binutils*? oh how we've fallen
15:17 <juliank> not clear what was modified there tbh
15:17 <bdmurray> Does anybody have that installed?
15:17 <vorlon> $ debsums -s -e binutils-common
15:17 <vorlon> $
15:19 <vorlon> I think we should take this
15:21 <enr0n> I will take this bug
15:22 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:22 <juliank> bug 1999345 is with security still
15:23 <juliank> nothing else
15:23 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:23 <juliank> empty!
15:23 <vorlon> juliank: I thought you had changed your mind about pushing for luks2?
15:24 <juliank> vorlon: I think it would be a reasonable inclusion but it's not urgent I think
15:24 <vorlon> juliank: IMHO it's not worth the security team's effort
15:24 <juliank> because any install config your create is luks2
15:24 <vorlon> we basically don't have installer support for not using a /boot partition when doing LUKS
15:24 <juliank> I don't know if curtin and friends allow you to setup luks without /boot
15:24 <vorlon> yeah not really
15:24 <vorlon> *because* we knew it wasn't supported
15:25 <vorlon> and then there'll be a LUKS3, and...
15:25 <vorlon> so my $.02 is to retract this request
15:25 <juliank> let's discuss in uefi meeting
15:26 <juliank> I just want a quick chat with chris on this first
15:26 <vorlon> ack
15:26 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report
15:26 <juliank> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:26 <vorlon> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:26 <vorlon> people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive is dead ;)
15:26 * juliank updates script
15:26 <vorlon> 0 packages needing attention, 4 packages not yet considered late
15:26 <slyon> that boost (vs cmake) test seems to be running in cycles, bdmurray could you investigate that from a QA perspective?
15:27 <vorlon> 3 packages of ours in -proposed that are in-flight
15:27 <vorlon> and yeah the blocking autopkgtests are bad juju
15:27 <slyon> I wonder if cmake should be skiptested, in order to let the FTBFS fix into the release (LP: #2015872)
15:27 <juliank> vorlon: anything is late by now :D
15:28 <juliank> systemd blocks linux-lowlatency sounds bad for release?
15:28 <vorlon> kernels often have lots of false-positive autopkgtest results
15:28 <vorlon> because of the way britney triggers
15:28 <vorlon> so I wouldn't invest any time on this from our side unless asked by kernel team
15:28 <vorlon> the looping autopkgtests for icu and cmake, tho
15:29 <bdmurray> Yeah, we (the QA team) can look at that
15:29 <bdmurray> Although at this point in the day its me
15:29 <juliank> Maybe you need a foundations helper buddy
15:30 <juliank> I think that wraps that bit up, though
15:30 <vorlon> yes
15:30 <vorlon> back to you
15:30 <juliank> #topic AOB
15:30 <juliank> Any other business?
15:31 <bdmurray> so bdrung will you upload update-manager today
15:31 <bdrung> that's my plan
15:31 <bdrung> doing that and then taking a break due to my cold
15:32 <bdmurray> Thanks
15:37 <juliank> #endmeeting