== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: Ubuntu Backporters meeting, started by ddstreet, 05 Oct at 15:02 — 15:31 UTC. * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-10-05-15.02.log.html == Meeting summary == === previous action items === Discussion started by ddstreet at 15:03. * '''ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 15:03) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) (ddstreet, 15:03) * '''ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 15:04) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) (ddstreet, 15:04) * '''ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 15:04) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) (ddstreet, 15:04) * '''ddstreet schedule next mtg Oct 5 15:00 UTC''' (ddstreet, 15:04) * '''mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress)''' (ddstreet, 15:04) * ''ACTION:'' mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) (ddstreet, 15:05) * '''mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 15:05) * ''ACTION:'' mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) (ddstreet, 15:06) * '''mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 15:06) * ''ACTION:'' mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) (ddstreet, 15:06) * '''mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 15:07) * ''ACTION:'' mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) (ddstreet, 15:07) * '''mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python''' (ddstreet, 15:07) * ''ACTION:'' mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python (ddstreet, 15:08) === open mailing list threads === Discussion started by ddstreet at 15:09. * '''clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions''' (ddstreet, 15:09) * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-February/022680.html (ddstreet, 15:09) * ''ACTION:'' clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions (ddstreet, 15:09) * '''charter/policies''' (ddstreet, 15:10) * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-October/022945.html (ddstreet, 15:10) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet update charter/policies from mapreri review email, send new email asking for review again (ddstreet, 15:12) === open bugs === Discussion started by ddstreet at 15:16. * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/limnoria/+bug/1983415 (ddstreet, 15:17) * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/ipmctl/+bug/1968076 (ddstreet, 15:18) === AOB === Discussion started by ddstreet at 15:21. * ''ACTION:'' mapreri review ubuntu-dev-tools patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 (ddstreet, 15:23) * '''next mtg date''' (ddstreet, 15:23) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet schedule next mtg nov 16 at 16:00 UTC (ddstreet, 15:30) == Action items, by person == * ddstreet * ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) * ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) * ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) * ddstreet update charter/policies from mapreri review email, send new email asking for review again * ddstreet schedule next mtg nov 16 at 16:00 UTC * mapreri * mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) * mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) * mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) * mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) * mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python * ddstreet update charter/policies from mapreri review email, send new email asking for review again * mapreri review ubuntu-dev-tools patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 * **UNASSIGNED** * clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions == People present (lines said) == * ddstreet (100) * mapreri (61) * meetingology (14) * ubottu (5) == Full log == 15:02 #startmeeting Ubuntu Backporters 15:02 Meeting started at 15:02:37 UTC. The chair is ddstreet. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 15:02 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 15:03 ok let's run thru the previous action items...i am pretty sure almost all of mine are carry-over 15:03 #topic previous action items 15:03 same, likely… 15:03 #subtopic ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) 15:03 such horrible 2.5 weeks for me :( 15:03 #action ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) 15:03 * meetingology ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) 15:03 i'm hoping to get started on some of my other items once the charter/policies is done 15:04 but also, summertime is not great for getting things done :) 15:04 #subtopic ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) 15:04 #action ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) 15:04 * meetingology ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) 15:04 #subtopic ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) 15:04 #action ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) 15:04 * meetingology ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) 15:04 #subtopic ddstreet schedule next mtg Oct 5 15:00 UTC 15:04 i did this one! ;-) 15:04 :P 15:04 #subtopic mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) 15:05 carried over, nothing done I believe 15:05 #action mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) 15:05 * meetingology mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) 15:05 (I mean, nothing new in the last month) 15:05 #subtopic mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) 15:05 Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] 15:05 the new lintian maintainer is busy with other projects, apparently :| 15:05 will chase him down again 15:06 hopefully they are less busy over the fall/winter 15:06 #action mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) 15:06 * meetingology mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) 15:06 #subtopic mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) 15:06 carried over 15:06 #action mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) 15:06 * meetingology mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor (carried over) 15:07 #subtopic mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) 15:07 #action mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) 15:07 * meetingology mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process (carried over) 15:07 assumed carry over for that too 15:07 yap 15:07 #subtopic mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python 15:07 uh, this I actually forgot 15:07 lol thats ok :) 15:08 should we carry it? 15:08 or drop it? 15:08 but I now too time has passed, need to look what the thing was again 15:08 please leave it 15:08 ok 15:08 #action mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python 15:08 * meetingology mapreri poke unit193 about yt-dlp dep on dh-python 15:08 If it's there probably there was a good reason from past me 15:08 there's a bug associated, lemme at least link that for reference 15:08 don't worry, I'll find it 15:08 ok 15:08 that's all previous action items 15:09 #topic open mailing list threads 15:09 #subtopic clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions 15:09 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-February/022680.html 15:09 i think we can carry this over too 15:09 checked, still in inbox 15:09 #action clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions 15:09 * meetingology clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions 15:10 #subtopic charter/policies 15:10 (I also found in inbox the thread about dh-python, fwiw) 15:10 thanks for reviewing charter/policies! i just saw your email 15:10 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-October/022945.html 15:10 for reference 15:11 yeah, of course I send such emails right before the meeting, what did you expect? :P 15:11 on quick read of your comments, the changes sound fine to me 15:11 lol 15:11 instead of trying to modify it now and re-review, i can update it after the meeting and send another email, and we can defer the vote to next meeting 15:11 if that sounds ok to you? 15:12 sounds good. 15:12 just checking 15:12 electing the chair: super or simple majority? 15:12 #action ddstreet update charter/policies from mapreri review email, send new email asking for review again 15:12 * meetingology ddstreet update charter/policies from mapreri review email, send new email asking for review again 15:13 i'm fine with either way, i think 15:13 I also don't have a strong opinion on that one myself 15:13 if you think simple may be easier, go with that (in my mail I wrote super) 15:13 i think i lean to just a simple majority 15:14 yeah, a simple majority for both appoint/approving, as well as removal, is probably best i think 15:15 ack 15:15 ok i'll update the policies to state simple majority for chair add/remove 15:15 …charter? 15:15 and we can tweak that pretty easy before the vote if we change our mind 15:15 oh charter right sorry 15:15 good :) 15:15 yeah the charter currently says 'see the policies' but i agree it's easier to reduce cross-referencings 15:15 next topic 15:15 also, the policies don't say :P 15:16 yeah, clearly an oversight :) 15:16 i mean...i was testing you! lol 15:16 :> 15:16 ok that's all ml threads 15:16 #topic open bugs 15:16 I haven't kept up with the current bugs in the past month 15:17 but looking at them now, I see it's the same set of open bugs from a month ago, so… 15:17 yep, one waiting on an upload 15:17 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy/+source/limnoria/+bug/1983415 15:17 Launchpad bug 1983415 in limnoria (Ubuntu Jammy) "[BPO] limnoria 2022.6.23-1 to jammy" [Undecided, New] 15:17 oh wait i think someone did upload that 15:17 I *believe* that's already uploaded, just need checking 15:17 yeah, unit193 msg'd me on irc a week or so ago about it 15:17 so it's on my todo, but if you want to take it, go ahead 15:18 the limnoria one is done, i approved it earlier this week 15:18 i'll mark it 15:18 ah good good ^^ 15:18 and one more bug 15:18 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/ipmctl/+bug/1968076 15:18 Launchpad bug 1968076 in ipmctl (Ubuntu Focal) "[BPO] ipmctl with support for CPS hardware" [Undecided, New] 15:18 i think this needs a sponsor 15:19 yes 15:19 i think teward was going to sponsor it 15:19 i'll add a ping comment for him 15:19 I guess we should either be hardliner and unsub us, or jfdi and sponsor it…? 15:19 great 15:20 handing out tasks to absentees... I love it! :D 15:20 i guess we can give it a bit more time before unsub 15:20 lol, he volunteered for it before so i'm re-purposing that :) 15:20 that's all the open bugs i see 15:21 #topic AOB 15:21 ok any other topics? 15:21 about the other bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 - unit193 has some unpublished private patches I need to look at 15:21 Launchpad bug 1959115 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "update backportpackage and requestbackport scripts to behave according to new backport process" [High, New] 15:21 ah crap i moved topics too fast 15:21 ok that's excellent! 15:22 also just had a quick look at the queues, I haven't spotted pending uploads 15:22 i'll add an action in the bugs topic section, i had assumed there was no movement on that one 15:22 hmm i guess we should have a topic section for pending uploads 15:22 those patches are drowned on my IRC scrollback, so I guess I need to either go fishing or ask about them -.- 15:22 i think we've been pretty good about reviewing fairly regularly though 15:22 yeah 15:22 I think we are fine atm 15:23 #action mapreri review ubuntu-dev-tools patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 15:23 * meetingology mapreri review ubuntu-dev-tools patches for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-dev-tools/+bug/1959115 15:23 Launchpad bug 1959115 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "update backportpackage and requestbackport scripts to behave according to new backport process" [High, New] 15:23 anything else before we decide on next mtg date? 15:23 nope, I'm good 15:23 #subtopic next mtg date 15:24 about this… 15:24 uh 15:24 IRL meeting in prague? 15:24 you'll be in prague? 15:24 in nov? 15:24 I'm unavailable the week before the summit (for another IRL event), and the week with the summit is no good for irc (probably), so either the week after or…? 15:24 yes, I'll be 15:25 ah the ubuntu summit 15:25 i will likely not be there 15:25 :( 15:25 i'm not sure if teward will 15:25 would have loved to meet you there :) 15:26 yeah, since i'm no longer with canonical, i'll probably not travel to many ubuntu conf 15:26 i would have too! 15:26 i'll try to plan farther out to attend a future one 15:26 you are still an active core-dev, so it shouldn't matter much since the whole idea was to gather a bit of community? (at least, that's the public reason) 15:27 but well, probably too late for planning? 15:27 sure, right, i just mean canonical use to pay for my travel to (some) confs 15:27 yeah i suspect it's too late for me to plan attending this one 15:27 just 1 month out 15:27 so anyway, let's set for Nov 16th, 5 pm CET? (so… 16 UTC I believe)? 15:27 since there is DST change… 15:27 or do we want to keep the same? 15:27 oh wait 15:28 nov 16 works for me 15:28 actually 4pm CET is no good for me…, but 5pm CET is, so… 15:29 and i can do either, follow DST or not 15:29 so 5pm CET is 16:00 UTC on nov 16 right? 15:29 we're currently at 15:00 UTC for the mtg 15:29 right? 15:29 going forward I have a recurring event on Wednesday that ends at 4pm CET (and then need to commute home) 15:30 right, so let's move it to 16 UTC / 17 CET ? 15:30 sounds good, nov 16 at 16:00 UTC 15:30 #action ddstreet schedule next mtg nov 16 at 16:00 UTC 15:30 * meetingology ddstreet schedule next mtg nov 16 at 16:00 UTC 15:31 any last topic before we end? 15:31 I'm good 15:31 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.4.0 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)