16:31 <ddstreet> #startmeeting Ubuntu Backporters Team 16:31 <meetingology> Meeting started at 16:31:23 UTC. The chair is ddstreet. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 16:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 16:31 <ddstreet> #topic Previous Action Items 16:31 <mapreri> (sigh, oops :( ) 16:31 <ddstreet> #subtopic ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) 16:31 <ddstreet> gotta carry over, but i hope to work on it soon :) 16:32 <ddstreet> #action ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) 16:32 * meetingology ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) 16:32 <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) 16:32 <ddstreet> carry over i assume? 16:32 <mapreri> I got on it today, fwiw, nothing uploaded yet 16:32 <mapreri> yep 16:32 <mapreri> but it's happening ! 16:32 <ddstreet> #action mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) 16:32 * meetingology mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) 16:32 <ddstreet> hurray! :) 16:32 <mapreri> now to hope nothing interrupts me... /o\ 16:32 <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) 16:32 <ubottu> Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] 16:32 <mapreri> so 16:33 <mapreri> here 16:33 <mapreri> the previous lintian maintainer stepped down, new one stepped up and they are hard at work on catching up with a bit of a leftoever mess (since the handover was very harsh and just didn't happen) 16:34 <mapreri> I plan to poke a bit to get that into the eye range of the new maintainer soon 16:34 <mapreri> . 16:34 <mapreri> (in this way, I think it's fine not to work on a ubuntu-specific patch anymore) 16:34 <ddstreet> sounds good, that's progress 16:34 <ddstreet> should we keep the item here? 16:34 <mapreri> yes please 16:35 <ddstreet> #action mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) 16:35 * meetingology mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) 16:35 <ubottu> Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] 16:35 <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor 16:35 <mapreri> ok, _this_ slipped my mind 16:35 <ddstreet> lol :) 16:35 <ddstreet> that's ok :) 16:35 <mapreri> adding a note, this is really trivial 16:35 <ddstreet> #action mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor 16:35 * meetingology mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor 16:35 <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri handle debhelper backport including revert dep on debugedit for focal-backports (carried over) 16:35 <ddstreet> i think this one is done? 16:36 <mapreri> mostly handled by ddstreet , thank you ♥ 16:36 <ddstreet> np :) 16:36 <ddstreet> thanks for reviewing! 16:36 <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process 16:36 <mapreri> this of course didn't happen 16:36 <mapreri> you can leave it on me still 16:36 <ddstreet> yeah, i think this will be good to do 16:36 <ddstreet> #action mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process 16:36 * meetingology mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process 16:37 <ddstreet> #subtopic (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) 16:37 <ddstreet> should we carry this over unassigned? do you want to take it? 16:37 <mapreri> no, I'm already a bit overloaded, sorry 16:38 <ddstreet> how about i'll take it, since it's tooling-related 16:38 <mapreri> (note that I'm not so overloaded to not be able to review a patch, if once comes my way) 16:38 <ddstreet> but of course anyone can do it if they have time 16:38 <ddstreet> #action ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) 16:38 * meetingology ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) 16:38 <ddstreet> #subtopic (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) 16:39 <ddstreet> i'll take this one too, as part of 'tooling' work 16:39 <ddstreet> #action ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) 16:39 * meetingology ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) 16:39 <mapreri> or you could just leave it unassigned at m 16:39 <mapreri> it's kind of clear we don't actually need such specilize tool to review the queue 16:40 <ddstreet> i do hope to start looking at tooling by the next mtg 16:40 <mapreri> k 16:40 <ddstreet> yeah we probably don't, but it's possible we just don't know what awesomeness we're missing ;-) 16:40 <mapreri> heh 16:40 <ddstreet> ok that's all the previous items 16:40 <ddstreet> #topic Open Mailing List Threads 16:41 <ddstreet> #subtopic clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions 16:41 <ddstreet> i guess we need to continue this on the ML? 16:41 <ddstreet> i can send a reply to try to revive the discussion 16:42 <mapreri> for myself, I'm good also without an up, it's just that I've got too many emails to read/write these months 16:42 <mapreri> I don't understand, I feel like normally they aren't this many… 16:42 <mapreri> these* 16:42 <ddstreet> #action ddstreet send ML reply to continue thread re: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions 16:42 * meetingology ddstreet send ML reply to continue thread re: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions 16:42 <ddstreet> yeah, maybe just 'that time of year'? 16:42 <ddstreet> though summertime usually is *less* busy 16:43 <mapreri> is it summer already? :O 16:43 <ddstreet> it's around 40C where I am! 16:43 <ddstreet> that counts as summer for me :) 16:43 <mapreri> /o\ 16:43 <mapreri> 40c is enough to make me run away :P 16:44 <mapreri> (says the person who is actually at 27 indoor already) 16:44 <mapreri> anyway 16:44 <ddstreet> lol, yeah i am super glad i have a pool ;-) 16:44 <ddstreet> #subtopic TB ML thread for charter 16:44 <ddstreet> so, for this 16:45 <ddstreet> i'd like to just clear up our charter a bit with some minor changes, and start using it as our 'official' rules 16:45 <ddstreet> i don't like continuing to have just 'draft' rules 16:46 <ddstreet> i can have an updated version by next meeting, if you have no objections (then we can discuss/vote on adopting the updated version) 16:46 <mapreri> should we move more stuff from the charter into the internal policy? 16:46 <ddstreet> and of course, any feedback from the TB in the future can be integrated into it 16:46 <mapreri> and keep mostly the "mission" part of it? 16:46 <ddstreet> yep i think so 16:46 <ddstreet> we can discuss now a bit if you want? 16:46 <ddstreet> or i can make some changes and then we can discuss the details next mtg? 16:47 <ddstreet> but yeah, i agree with moving most of the details into internal policy, just keep core stuff in the charter 16:47 <mapreri> if you already have a plan, is probably more efficient if you get a draft 16:48 <ddstreet> sounds good, and i'll add an action to discuss the new draft next mtg 16:48 <ddstreet> i dont think there is any hurry to get something in place, just would be good to make progress on it over the next couple mtgs 16:48 <mapreri> ack 16:49 <ddstreet> #action ddstreet rework charter and internal policies documentation, have drafts for next mtg 16:49 * meetingology ddstreet rework charter and internal policies documentation, have drafts for next mtg 16:50 <ddstreet> #action discuss charter/policies drafts 16:50 * meetingology discuss charter/policies drafts 16:50 <ddstreet> #topic Open Bugs needing discussion 16:50 <ddstreet> i don't think there are any? 16:50 <mapreri> waity 16:51 <mapreri> nah 16:51 <mapreri> there is only one bug, but that is fine as it is 16:51 <ddstreet> #topic AOB 16:51 <ddstreet> any other topics? 16:51 <mapreri> none from me 16:52 <teward> nope 16:52 <mapreri> oh, hi teward ! 16:52 <mapreri> o/ 16:52 <ddstreet> o/ teward 16:52 <teward> i was delayed by FT job work phone meeting sorry 16:52 <ddstreet> ok last thing then is scheduling next mtg, we all ok with 1 month as usual? 16:52 <mapreri> that makes it the 13th right? That's perfect 16:52 <teward> works for me 16:53 <mapreri> will any of you be at DebConf? 16:53 <teward> nope 16:53 <ddstreet> i will not, i actually have a Canonical conf (sprint) that week, but i can attend from the sprint 16:53 <teward> too busy bashing my head against Windows servers at FT job >.< 16:53 <ddstreet> #action ddstreet schedule next mtg for july 13 16:53 * meetingology ddstreet schedule next mtg for july 13 16:53 <ddstreet> ok i think that wraps then! 16:53 <ddstreet> last chance before we end... 16:53 <mapreri> cool 16:54 <ddstreet> #endmeeting