15:01 <juliank> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team 15:01 <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:01:45 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 15:01 <jawn-smith> o/ 15:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 15:02 <juliank> #topic Lightning Round 15:02 * vorlon waves 15:02 <juliank> The status is here https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-19-may-2022/28413 15:02 <bdmurray> I found the maysync vs willsync write up very useful. 15:02 <juliank> Let's give everyone a chance to read up and ask questions 15:03 <juliank> I'll go read last week's backlog shortly and update our meeting script a bit 15:03 <bdmurray> slyon: ^ 15:03 <slyon> yes. I wasn't aware that *ubuntu* version strings are ignored by the auto-sync 15:03 <slyon> so the investigation was useful for me as well 15:04 <bdmurray> I think emailing ubuntu-devel about it would be useful. 15:04 <jawn-smith> waveform: have you had a chance to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~jawn-smith/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+git/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+merge/421557 ? 15:04 <slyon> It will be part of my +1 report, to be send out shortly 15:04 <bdmurray> I wonder if it will get lost in there. 15:04 <bdmurray> i.e. do people read those? 15:04 <slyon> ack. I might send an additional extra email just for that 15:05 <waveform> jawn-smith, I've looked at the code but not had a chance to actually run it yet 15:05 <bdmurray> slyon: Do you know much about the move to iwd? 15:05 <juliank> Oh I forgot to hit the send button on my status, done now 15:05 <jawn-smith> okay thanks. We're trying to coordinate that SRU with another so we only have to do one upload 15:05 <juliank> Sorry 15:06 <slyon> bdmurray: I did run some testing around iwd a while ago: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-testing-improved-wifi-via-iwd/17795/58 15:06 <slyon> And I just completed the MIR review, so I know that the desktop team plans to switch to iwd by default this cycle (22.10) 15:06 <waveform> jawn-smith, okay -- will try and squeeze that in this afternoon 15:06 <juliank> ooh scary 15:06 <juliank> I should try iwd again 15:06 <bdmurray> Okay, I think that's all I really need to know. 15:07 <bdmurray> We all should try iwd! 15:07 <slyon> juliank: it works pretty nicely for me, running it for 1y+ 15:07 <juliank> Last time it stuck to the wrong network or something :D 15:07 <juliank> Any other questions? 15:07 <slyon> that discourse thread from above should give some recent enough instructions on how to best use it 15:08 <juliank> OK, Let's move on then 15:08 <juliank> #topic Release incoming bugs 15:08 <juliank> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-kk-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:08 <juliank> bug 1974115 15:09 <bdmurray> I think that's a pretty straightforward card and target 15:09 <juliank> where's the bot? 15:09 <slyon> +1 15:09 <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1974115 15:09 <mclemenceau> thx, I'll card that 15:10 <juliank> bug 574287 15:10 <ubottu> Bug 574287 in tasksel (Ubuntu) "tasksel: forcefully removes packages when tasks overlap" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574287 15:10 <juliank> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/574287 15:10 <juliank> ugh hello ubottu 15:10 <bdmurray> that's already carded so next 15:10 <juliank> https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:11 <juliank> bug 1971987 15:11 <ubottu> Bug 1971987 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "On release upgrade, Snaps don't change channel" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1971987 15:11 <bdmurray> I agree with the last comment there 15:11 <juliank> Should this be Incomplete? 15:12 <bdmurray> Given what we've seen in the logs the behavior is expected. 15:12 <vorlon> close invalid? 15:12 <juliank> ack 15:12 <vorlon> target and close invalid :) 15:12 <vorlon> (so if it legitimately reopens, we follow up?) 15:13 <vorlon> oh or maybe it's better not to target so that if it reopens it ends up back in our queue here 15:13 <juliank> I removed the label though 15:13 <bdmurray> Yes, we don't look at rls-**-tracking often 15:13 <juliank> should it get another label? 15:13 <bdmurray> I'd leave the label and set it Invalid 15:14 <juliank> ok 15:14 <juliank> bug 1968845 is incomplete, I think there's nothing to see there? 15:14 <ubottu> Bug 1968845 in dbus (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to 22.04 from 20.04 ends with dbus installation asking for a reboot" [High, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1968845 15:15 <juliank> bug 1971474 is a straightforward-ish SRU request from doko 15:15 <ubottu> Bug 1971474 in gdb (Ubuntu) "SRU: Update gdb to the final 12.1 release in 22.04 LTS" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1971474 15:16 <juliank> mclemenceau: wanna card this? 15:16 <mclemenceau> sure thing 15:16 <juliank> https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs is empty 15:16 <slyon> <empty> 15:16 <juliank> https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:16 <juliank> 11 bugs in there 15:17 <bdmurray> bb we don't look at because nobody should be running that 15:17 <juliank> do we want to look at them? 15:17 <juliank> heh 15:17 <juliank> Let's move on then 15:17 <juliank> #topic Team proposed-migration report 15:17 <juliank> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs 15:18 <vorlon> only 54 packages late 15:18 <vorlon> a lot of this is going to still be waiting on autopkgtest results due to the armhf queue, but it's still worth looking at 15:19 <vorlon> openjdk-lts was waiting on a test result that got lost, so I've just retriggered all tests > 15 days that were "running" 15:19 <vorlon> alexghiti: were you still looking at the mercurial autopkgtest regression on git? 15:20 <vorlon> there seem to be several autopkgtest regressions here that all need looked at 15:20 <alexghiti> Yes, spent some hours on a flaky test, asked the mailing list, still waiting 15:20 <vorlon> which mailing list? 15:21 <juliank> we also run on bos01 atm, so it might still have network regressions 15:21 <alexghiti> mercurial-devel: https://marc.info/?l=mercurial-devel&r=1&b=202205&w=2 15:21 <juliank> I retried the bos01 runs last week, but I can rerun them again if people think that's useful, so we get all bos01 failures retried on bos02 15:21 <vorlon> if the test is flaky, can we please either get the test retried, or patched out so it doesn't fail the test suite, rather than waiting for upstream? 15:22 <alexghiti> Ok I can do patch it out then 15:22 <vorlon> juliank: we should probably retry all failed tests >7 days at this point 15:22 <juliank> all, not just bos01? 15:22 <vorlon> yeah 15:22 <juliank> ack 15:22 <vorlon> anyway, that still leaves several other issues required in order to unblock git. alexghiti can you take those also, or should we get another volunteer? 15:23 <alexghiti> I can take those 15:23 <vorlon> thanks 15:23 <juliank> although I guess bdmurray can do that retrying, being QA team and all :) 15:23 <bdmurray> Yeah, I'll do that 15:24 <xnox> ubuntu-release team, could you please start building jammy lts dailies? cause we need both focal dailies and jammy dailies for now right? https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-cdimage/jammy-dailies/+merge/423028 15:24 <vorlon> boost1.74: this is listed as a candidate but I don't see it in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt so this needs some digging 15:24 <vorlon> xnox: ECHAN 15:24 <ginggs> it recently migrated i think 15:25 <ginggs> i got mail 15:25 <vorlon> ginggs: ah, thanks 15:25 <vorlon> cmake - who wants this? 15:26 <vorlon> bdrung: you took onetbb; are you still working on this? 15:26 <jawn-smith> I can take a look at cyrus-ampd and sagemath 15:26 <vorlon> jawn-smith: thanks 15:26 <jawn-smith> well, that was one way to spell imapd 15:27 <bdrung> onetbb is still on my list. 15:27 <vorlon> sagemath is flaky fwiw, looks like timeouts 15:27 <jawn-smith> okay thanks 15:27 <vorlon> so I've just given back that particular test 15:27 <vorlon> source-highlight, has likely migrated w/ boost 15:27 <ginggs> yes 15:27 <vorlon> dh-golang, waiting for dpkg, which is waiting for armhf tests 15:28 <vorlon> libevent: mysql-8.0 on i386. waveform you still have this? 15:28 <waveform> was unable to reproduce in a container locally; may just be a timeout 15:28 <vorlon> a lot of carry-overs from last week, reminder that the expectation is that you make time to resolve these before the next meeting, please 15:29 <vorlon> waveform: next steps? 15:29 <waveform> was going to dig a little further and then "just retry" if I got nowhere 15:29 <vorlon> waveform: let's "just retry" sooner rather than later 15:29 <waveform> ok 15:29 <vorlon> (button puhsed) 15:30 <vorlon> libpng1.6, armhf autopkgtest regression 15:31 <vorlon> ah but it was an error not a fail; retrying 15:31 <vorlon> readline? 15:31 <vorlon> enr0n: you still working on this? 15:31 <enr0n> ruby-build is new since last week, I can look 15:32 <enr0n> And slyon sponsored a gnudatalanguage fix for me earlier 15:32 <vorlon> enr0n: probably just needs retries, this is a test progression that britney mis-flags as a regression 15:32 <enr0n> vorlon: ack 15:32 <vorlon> gnudatalanguage is likely going to require more effort 15:32 <enr0n> What makes you say that? 15:32 <vorlon> enr0n: because it's gdl and I know it by name 15:33 <vorlon> "oh great what's broken with gdl this time" 15:33 <enr0n> :D 15:34 <vorlon> dash - doko, you still on this? 15:34 <vorlon> built now but the autopkgtests regress everywhere 15:34 <vorlon> file - bdmurray ? 15:34 <juliank> gnudatalanguage as gdl confused me a bit because gdl also exists, it's "GNOME DevTool libraries" 15:34 <juliank> :D 15:35 <juliank> are we missing a new debian-archive-keyring? 15:35 <bdmurray> Sure, I'll look at file. 15:35 <vorlon> licensecheck needs MIRing - schopin ? 15:36 <juliank> (that was re dash, it fails signature checks for debian) 15:36 <schopin> sure 15:36 <vorlon> doko: pillow still with you? 15:36 <slyon> schopin: there's a template already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindirect-perl/+bug/1972853 15:36 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1972853 in libxs-parse-sublike-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lib*-perl" [Undecided, Incomplete] 15:36 <schopin> slyon: thanks! 15:36 <bdrung> juliank, yes, very likely that we just need to install debian-archive-keyring for the dash test suite 15:37 <vorlon> pinentry, apparently this was assigned to me because i386 ;) will follow through 15:37 <vorlon> xypron, ogayot: are you still working on requests? 15:37 <ogayot> I have submitted a patch for requests in bug 1974182. Need a sponsor at the moment 15:37 <ubottu> Bug 1974182 in requests (Ubuntu) "Autopkgtest fails when HTTP proxy is used" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1974182 15:38 <doko> vorlon: yes, both 15:38 <vorlon> doko: thanks 15:39 <vorlon> I can look at sponsoring today 15:39 <vorlon> sphinx needs some attention. ginggs ? 15:39 <ginggs> sure 15:39 <vorlon> squashfs-tools vs systemd - dbungert ? 15:40 <dbungert> vorlon: ack 15:40 <vorlon> libgpg-error - slyon ? 15:40 <slyon> vorlon: ok 15:40 <vorlon> does anyone not have one for this week? 15:40 <ogayot> I don't 15:40 <bdrung> \o 15:41 <vorlon> ogayot: oh, I thought there was still work for you on requests - would you like pycurl instead? 15:41 <ogayot> yes, I can take pycurl 15:41 <vorlon> thanks 15:41 <vorlon> juliank: back to you 15:41 <ginggs> there's a another MIR in sphinx 15:41 <juliank> #topic AOB 15:42 <ginggs> sphinx-common/amd64 in main cannot depend on libunicode-escape-perl in universe 15:42 <slyon> ginggs: that's also perl-* packages from the same team 15:42 <schopin> ginggs: It's in my lot. 15:42 <slyon> should probably be combined with the other MIR 15:42 <ginggs> ok thanks 15:42 <vorlon> fwiw the pinentry/i386 dep wait is on qtwayland. We are not building the qt stack to unblock pinentry :P will patch pinentry 15:42 <mclemenceau> bug 1974196 came to my attention during this meeting, might as well review it 15:42 <ubottu> Bug 1974196 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Installing libudev1 on a new Jammy installation uninstalls many packages." [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1974196 15:45 <slyon> mclemenceau: this sounds like a SRU candidate for .1 15:45 <mclemenceau> slyon: Ack 15:46 <slyon> should be easiy to reproduce/verify. and then might need some update to the versioned dependencies. 15:46 <slyon> do you want to card that? 15:46 <juliank> i wonder if that is a phased update issue? 15:46 <juliank> but I guess not 15:46 <slyon> juliank: he had jammy-updates disabled 15:46 <slyon> so probably not related to phased updates.. 15:46 <juliank> ok but then it's not a bug 15:46 <dbungert> vorlon: squashfs-tools vs systemd is going to be a retry due to systemd upstream-1 tests. Would you like to assign another? 15:47 <vorlon> dbungert: you can also have binutils :) 15:47 <dbungert> ack 15:47 <juliank> the image is built with updates, if you disable it, you can't install packages that need older versions 15:47 <juliank> ah ok 15:48 <juliank> I may be confused :D 15:48 <juliank> but ubuntu:jammy is getting refreshed with updates from -updates installed, no? 15:48 <juliank> so the dockerfile idea of installing from base like that doesn't work 15:48 <juliank> long term 15:51 <juliank> Probably a weird effect of dependency solving in apt, but oh well 15:51 <juliank> Worth investigating more 15:51 <slyon> ack 15:52 <juliank> Anything else? 15:52 <juliank> 3 15:52 <juliank> 2 15:52 <juliank> 1 15:52 <juliank> #endmeeting