== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: Ubuntu Backporters meeting, started by ddstreet, 23 Feb at 17:32 — 17:50 UTC. * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-02-23-17.32.log.html == Meeting summary == === previous action items === Discussion started by ddstreet at 17:33. * '''ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 17:33) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) (ddstreet, 17:33) * '''ddstreet at next meeting, re-raise issue of non-participating member policy''' (ddstreet, 17:33) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet draft a team charter for discussion (ddstreet, 17:36) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet raise issue of non-participating member policy (ddstreet, 17:37) * '''rbasak send email to ML to clarify specific wording of team responsibilities, for proposal to TB for ratification''' (ddstreet, 17:38) * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-February/022687.html (ddstreet, 17:38) * ''ACTION:'' (unassigned) review delegation email on ML (ddstreet, 17:40) * '''mapreri propose text for membership process to add to KB page (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 17:40) * ''ACTION:'' mapreri propose text for membership process to add to KB page (carried over) (ddstreet, 17:41) * '''mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress)''' (ddstreet, 17:41) * ''ACTION:'' mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) (ddstreet, 17:41) * '''mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 17:41) * ''ACTION:'' mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) (ddstreet, 17:42) * '''(unassigned) define details on handling members/leads who are no longer participating (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 17:42) * '''(unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 17:43) * ''ACTION:'' (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) (ddstreet, 17:44) * '''(unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over)''' (ddstreet, 17:44) * ''ACTION:'' (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) (ddstreet, 17:44) === AOB === Discussion started by ddstreet at 17:45. * ''ACTION:'' (unassigned) reminder to review 'no-bug-required' backport exception email thread on ML (ddstreet, 17:46) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet update agenda page with ML review topic item (ddstreet, 17:47) * ''ACTION:'' ddstreet update agenda page with open bug review topic item (ddstreet, 17:48) == Action items, by person == * ddstreet * ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) * ddstreet draft a team charter for discussion * ddstreet raise issue of non-participating member policy * ddstreet update agenda page with ML review topic item * ddstreet update agenda page with open bug review topic item * mapreri * mapreri propose text for membership process to add to KB page (carried over) * mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) * mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) * **UNASSIGNED** * (unassigned) review delegation email on ML * (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) * (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) * (unassigned) reminder to review 'no-bug-required' backport exception email thread on ML == People present (lines said) == * ddstreet (52) * mapreri (20) * meetingology (14) * teward (5) * ubottu (1) == Full log == 17:32 #startmeeting Ubuntu Backporters 17:32 Meeting started at 17:32:46 UTC. The chair is ddstreet. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 17:32 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 17:33 #topic previous action items 17:33 #subtopic ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) 17:33 carrying over 17:33 #action ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) 17:33 * meetingology ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) 17:33 #subtopic ddstreet at next meeting, re-raise issue of non-participating member policy 17:33 guess i'm re-raising the issue now :) 17:34 let's keep re-raising :3 17:34 lol 17:34 also add a subtopic about formal delegation as rbasak asked, we should do that. but peraps after it (and after my own related task) 17:35 i was thinking that it would probably be best to come up with a complete charter for the team which includes everything about the team 17:35 (I have rbasak's mail stuck in my inbox, it won't be forgotten!) 17:35 if you two think that sounds ok, i'll write one up for discussion next meeting 17:35 well, that's likely how it'll turn out even without proper planning anyway 17:35 exactly - this should be done all-in-one not piece-by-piece 17:35 you think? 17:35 yep 17:35 mh 17:36 well, if you think you have cycles to draft something, I totally won't stop you from it :) 17:36 ack, i'll get a draft by next mtg 17:36 after all, the hardest is always the first draft (for me, at least) 17:36 just for discussion 17:36 #action ddstreet draft a team charter for discussion 17:36 * meetingology ddstreet draft a team charter for discussion 17:37 i'll keep the individual actions too until/if we decide to replace them with a full charter 17:37 yap 17:37 #action ddstreet raise issue of non-participating member policy 17:37 * meetingology ddstreet raise issue of non-participating member policy 17:37 re-raise, re-raise 17:38 lol i need more raises in there 17:38 #subtopic rbasak send email to ML to clarify specific wording of team responsibilities, for proposal to TB for ratification 17:38 i believe this was done 17:38 yes, that's what I mentioned 17:38 btw 17:38 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-backports/2022-February/022687.html 17:39 I don't think ubuntu has a concept of "delegation" and "ratification" like debian does, does it? 17:39 so let's just add an action to review this, though it's possible the charter would replace it 17:39 so what would that imply anyway? 17:39 i have no idea...AFAIK these mandates are coming from the TB 17:39 ddstreet: you wanted more raises, right? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B9WCZ536Hf/ 17:39 mapreri: there is a 'delegation of powers' concept 17:40 #action (unassigned) review delegation email on ML 17:40 * meetingology (unassigned) review delegation email on ML 17:40 higher boards can delegate certain powers to sub teams. 17:40 yeah, but I never heard ot "TB delegations" in all my years, so I'm kind of eyebrow-raising right now 17:40 I get the concept, sure, and approve it 17:40 just the term is kind of new to me in this case… 17:40 #subtopic mapreri propose text for membership process to add to KB page (carried over) 17:41 carrying over as you mentioned 17:41 #action mapreri propose text for membership process to add to KB page (carried over) 17:41 * meetingology mapreri propose text for membership process to add to KB page (carried over) 17:41 k 17:41 #subtopic mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) 17:41 i assume continue to carry over 17:41 yeah 17:41 #action mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) 17:41 * meetingology mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) 17:41 #subtopic mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) 17:41 Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] 17:41 and carry this one too? 17:42 I had a chat with lechner about this… it's bothersome but I'm talking with him 17:42 #action mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) 17:42 * meetingology mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) 17:42 #subtopic (unassigned) define details on handling members/leads who are no longer participating (carried over) 17:43 i think is is superceded/replaced by the previous actions 17:43 #subtopic (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) 17:43 i assume nobody got this, so carrying over? 17:44 #action (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) 17:44 * meetingology (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) 17:44 #subtopic (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) 17:44 will carry this over as well unless anyone has made progress on it 17:44 #action (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) 17:44 * meetingology (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) 17:45 that's all the previous items 17:45 #topic AOB 17:45 anyone have anything? 17:45 nope 17:45 not me, anyways 17:45 i did want to add an action item to remind us to review the 'no-bug-required' thread on the ML 17:46 #action (unassigned) reminder to review 'no-bug-required' backport exception email thread on ML 17:46 * meetingology (unassigned) reminder to review 'no-bug-required' backport exception email thread on ML 17:47 in fact i should add an action item to update our agenda page with topic sections to review outstanding ML threads 17:47 #action ddstreet update agenda page with ML review topic item 17:47 * meetingology ddstreet update agenda page with ML review topic item 17:48 and probably open bug review... 17:48 #action ddstreet update agenda page with open bug review topic item 17:48 * meetingology ddstreet update agenda page with open bug review topic item 17:49 ok, i have nothing else, last call before we wrap? 17:50 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.4.0 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)