== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: Technical Board Meeting, started by sil2100, 23 Nov at 20:06 — 20:26 UTC. * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-11-23-20.06.log.html == Meeting summary == === Apologies === Discussion started by sil2100 at 20:07. === Action review === Discussion started by sil2100 at 20:08. === Mailing list items === Discussion started by sil2100 at 20:12. === Community bugs === Discussion started by sil2100 at 20:15. === Chair for next meeting: === Discussion started by sil2100 at 20:15. === AOB === Discussion started by sil2100 at 20:19. == People present (lines said) == * sil2100 (23) * rbasak (15) * mdeslaur (13) * meetingology (2) == Full log == 20:06 #startmeeting Technical Board Meeting 20:06 Meeting started at 20:06:47 UTC. The chair is sil2100. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 20:06 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 20:07 #topic Apologies 20:07 I think there were none this time o/ 20:08 #topic Action review 20:10 Okay, I think all actions might still be in progress. I must say that I'm a bit embarrassed of myself, as I indeed have some action items that I did not yet move forward - especially discussion regarding third party repositories... 20:11 The pad is making good progress. It's mainly just pending sil2100 taking a look, if you could please. I'd like to understand if you agree with the general principle of the proposed requirements (some or all as you think) and then I can start trying to draft something more solid. 20:12 This will probably take you some time and isn't worth doing in the middle of the meeting. 20:12 I will do that now in that case, straight after the meeting. I think I always was meant to read into it but get distracted 20:12 Thanks! 20:12 Apologies, eh 20:12 Hopefully I'll unblock everyone today 20:12 Okay, moving on for now: 20:12 #topic Mailing list items 20:13 I'm looking, but I can't find anything - is it just me and bad e-mail filtering? Hope not 20:13 mdeslaur: if it's OK with you, in response to your commment on line 6, I'm going to go ahead with my suggestion on line 8 - we'll find rough understanding first, then I'll try and refine it to which of your scenarios those proposed requirements would map to. I suspect we won't struggle to reach agreement there. 20:14 Sorry I got ahead of myself there. 20:14 : 20:14 I don't see any ML traffic awaiting a response. 20:14 one sec, let me pull it up 20:14 I'll move on with the meeting in the meantime and we can discuss further in the AOB section o/ 20:15 #topic Community bugs 20:15 ...none! 20:15 rbasak: yeah, that makes sense 20:15 #topic Chair for next meeting: 20:16 That would be cyphermox, but I'm not sure about the backup as I don't think this is going alphabetically anymore? 20:17 I pull up the launchpad list and use that 20:17 ie: https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members 20:18 backup would be rbasak 20:18 Let's use that indeed, but hm, cyphermox wasn't after me in this case, so I got confused! 20:18 But let's make it rbasak as backup then 20:18 I think I filled in which is why 20:18 * mdeslaur shrugs 20:19 Ah, makes sense, possibly 20:19 #topic AOB 20:19 o/ 20:19 Just more questions on the pad please 20:19 Anything else to discuss before I go dive into the etherpad? 20:19 mdeslaur: line 30 - can I check I have the sense of your statement correct please? 20:20 sure 20:20 Are you saying that you're now thinking that we _shouldn't_ permit snaps to make feature breaking changes by default, or that we should? 20:21 I think packaging is irrelevant to the discussion...either Ubuntu allows feature breaking changes, or it doesn't 20:21 and I'm uneasy making that change as a tech board member without involving the Ubuntu community as a whole as it will change the very definition of what Ubuntu is 20:21 I'm not sure I get to make that decision 20:22 OK, so by "making that change" you mean changing from generally not allowing feature breaking changes to generally allowing feature breaking changes, right? 20:22 yeah 20:22 Got it. Thanks! 20:22 FWIW, I agree with you. 20:23 OK so once sil2100 is done, I think I'm good with the pad - thanks! I can try and write up a firmer draft from there. 20:24 awesome 20:25 huh, I can't type ' in etherpad, it just moves my cursor down when I do that 20:26 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.4.0 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)