== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team meeting, started by bdmurray, 07 Oct at 15:01 — 15:42 UTC. * Full logs at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-10-07-15.01.log.html == Meeting summary == === Lightning Round === Discussion started by bdmurray at 15:01. * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/openssl-3-0-transition-plans/24453 (schopin, 15:02) * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=transition-openssl3-jj (schopin, 15:02) * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unoconv/+bug/1946232 (alexghiti, 15:03) * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyricue/+bug/1946224 (alexghiti, 15:03) === Release Incoming Bugs === Discussion started by bdmurray at 15:10. * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html (bdmurray, 15:10) * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1231091/comments/9 (bdmurray, 15:17) * ''LINK:'' https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html (bdmurray, 15:27) * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html (bdmurray, 15:27) === Team proposed-migration report === Discussion started by bdmurray at 15:29. * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs (vorlon, 15:29) === AOB === Discussion started by bdmurray at 15:38. == People present (lines said) == * bdmurray (54) * ubottu (47) * vorlon (44) * dbungert (25) * sil2100 (24) * slyon (24) * schopin (16) * jawn-smith (11) * waveform (10) * juliank (10) * ginggs (7) * alexghiti (7) * xypron (5) * doko (4) * mclemenceau (3) * meetingology (2) == Full log == 15:01 #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team 15:01 Meeting started at 15:01:00 UTC. The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 15:01 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 15:01 #topic Lightning Round 15:01 o/ 15:01 o/ 15:01 echo $(shuf -e doko bdmurray vorlon sil2100 mwhudson juliank waveform slyon jawn-smith dbungert xypron ginggs schopin alexghiti) 15:01 schopin ginggs waveform alexghiti dbungert bdmurray slyon vorlon sil2100 juliank xypron jawn-smith mwhudson doko 15:01 * openssl: 15:01 + Composed and published our plans for the upcoming OpenSSL 3 transition: 15:02 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/openssl-3-0-transition-plans/24453 15:02 (also in your ubuntu-devel@ inboxes as of a few minutes ago) 15:02 + Filed bugs against all packages in main failing to build against openssl3, 15:02 including preliminary investigation into upstream status on the issue: 15:02 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=transition-openssl3-jj 15:02 * netplan: 15:02 + Added the ability to remove an entire devtype from the configuration 15:02 (LP: #1942930, PR 236) 15:02 + Reviewed PR 238 for slyon (still ongoing) 15:02 Launchpad bug 1942930 in netplan "Unset a subtree crashes" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1942930 15:02 Bug 236 in Launchpad itself "System Error on saving translations" [Medium, Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236 15:02 + Prepared SRUs for LP: #1942930 and LP: #1943120 15:02 Bug 238 in Baz (deprecated) "Botched invariant running 'baz status'" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238 15:02 + Continued ongoing work on reworking libnetplan's API, see PRs 232 and 233 15:02 Launchpad bug 1943120 in netplan.io (Ubuntu Hirsute) "interface not removed" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1943120 15:02 Bug 233 in Launchpad itself "Maintainer not explicitly CC'd when a private distro bug is filed" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/233 15:02 15:02 Bug 232 in Launchpad itself "Bug privacy appears to not be team aware" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/232 15:02 (done) 15:02 * been busy with second impish test rebuild https://people.canonical.com/~ginggs/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20210927-impish-impish.html 15:02 * looking at sqlalchemy FTBFS LP: #1939346 15:02 * preparing for test rebuild with Python 3.10 as a supported version 15:02 Launchpad bug 1939346 in sqlalchemy (Ubuntu) "FTBFS 1.3.22+ds1-1 in build-docs during rebuild-test" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1939346 15:02 (done) 15:03 waveform: 15:03 * Finish functionality (but not yet docs/tests) of built-in-ubuntu (previously built-before) script (https://code.launchpad.net/~waveform/ubuntu-dev-tools/+git/ubuntu-dev-tools/+ref/built-before) 15:03 * Sense HAT packages uploaded (many thanks to sil2100) (LP: #1944449, LP: #1944450) 15:03 * Finished investigation of HDMI display output failure in impish and hirsute (LP: #1944397) 15:03 * Worked on reproduction case for HDMI display freezes in impish kernel (LP: #1946368) 15:03 * Tested fkms workaround consequences for ^^ including with upstream kernels 15:03 Launchpad bug 1944449 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] rtimulib" [Wishlist, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944449 15:03 * Tested firmware upgrades for hirsute and impish with relation to ^^ (no requirement on hirsute, anecdotal improvement on impish) 15:03 Launchpad bug 1944450 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] python-sense-hat" [Wishlist, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944450 15:03 Launchpad bug 1944397 in linux-firmware-raspi2 (Ubuntu Impish) "HDMI does not display anything with Impish RPi desktop image" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944397 15:03 * Prepared do-release-upgrade workaround to force fkms 15:03 Launchpad bug 1946368 in linux-raspi (Ubuntu Impish) "HDMI output freezes under current/proposed impish kernels" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946368 15:03 * Prepared pi-gadget adjustment to force fkms (but only on impish builds) 15:03 * Pi meetings 15:03 (done) 15:03 Reset in unmatched still under discussion 15:03 Pocl package fails to build caused by LLVM-9 upgrade? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pocl/+bug/1946202 15:03 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unoconv/+bug/1946232 15:03 Launchpad bug 1946202 in pocl (Ubuntu) "Proposed: testsuite segfaults on ARM64" [Undecided, New] 15:03 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyricue/+bug/1946224 15:03 mesa-opencl-icd riscv64 reverted because LLVM JIT riscv is not supported yet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1942764 15:03 Launchpad bug 1946232 in unoconv (Ubuntu) "Add build dependency to python3-uno" [Low, New] 15:03 kexec/kdump tools review/test: https://github.com/riscv-collab/kexec-tools/tree/riscv 15:03 (done) 15:03 Launchpad bug 1946224 in lyricue (Ubuntu) "Add build dependency to unoconv" [Low, New] 15:03 Launchpad bug 1942764 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Enable riscv64 build of mesa-opencl-icd" [Medium, Fix Released] 15:04 * livecd-rootfs vs u-d-i: A bug submitter on a different issue noted problems 15:04 installing packages. I traced it to LP: #1945831 15:04 * subiquity core20: finish work mwhudson started and get it operational. about 15:04 Launchpad bug 1945831 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "canary - partial sources.list" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945831 15:04 half the size (25MB vs 55MB), almost entirely due to libicudata not being 15:04 included (26MB file). 15:04 * subiquity storage/v2: get a working usable first chunk, merged to main. 15:04 Includes 2x the size of the actual changes in API-level tests. Continuing on 15:04 a follow-on branch to address feedback items. 15:04 * subiquity: write release notes for 21.10.1 release 15:04 * subiquity: CI - workaround impish daily networking being bad 15:04 * +1 crowdsec: can fix FTBFS by change to docker to no longer ship the vendored 15:04 source directory in golang-github-docker-docker-dev, which requires a 15:04 mini-transition build depends fix on 7 packages. LP: #1946376 15:04 Launchpad bug 1946376 in golang-github-tonistiigi-fsutil (Ubuntu) "FTBFS due to conflict with vendored source in docker.io" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946376 15:04 * +1 rust-alacritty-terminal: removed (LP: #1946008) 15:04 * +1 rust-proc-macro2: investigating 15:04 Launchpad bug 1946008 in rust-alacritty-terminal (Ubuntu) "Please remove rust-alacritty-terminal from impish" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946008 15:04 (done) 15:04 bdmurray: ^ 15:04 reported LP: #1945015 15:04 sru-verification of LP: #1944475 15:04 iso testing for the Beta 15:04 built new desktop canary image 15:04 Launchpad bug 1945015 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "link for opening release notes no longer works" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945015 15:04 Launchpad bug 1944475 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Impish) "DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive is now interactive" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944475 15:05 reviews of uploads for impish 15:05 created a bug for the tzdata update (LP: #1945527) 15:05 uploaded tzdata for II, HH, FF, BB, X 15:05 sru-verification of tzdata update LP: #1945527 15:05 Launchpad bug 1945527 in tzdata (Ubuntu Xenial) "Update tzdata to version 2021a-2" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945527 15:05 submitted PR re autopkgtest building EoL VMs 15:05 submitted an MP re ubuntu-archive-tools and sru-review for devel release 15:05 built a server image for IoT project 15:05 updated livecd-rootfs w/ a fix for focal server image building 15:05 fixed an issue with apport's autopkgtests and /proc/sys/kernel/core_uses_pid 15:05 uploaded tzdata for ESM releases (trusty, xenial) 15:05 uploaded distro-info-data for impish 15:05 that's really two weeks of status minus some holidays 15:05 slyon: 15:05 - Interview 15:05 - netplan discussions on debian-devel 15:05 - upload systemd 248.3-1ubuntu8, LP: #1942899, LP: #1942113, cgroup v2 cleanup 15:05 - upload netplan.io 0.103-0ubuntu7, LP: #1942930 15:05 - updated snapd PR#10212 now that netplan bionic SRU landed, LP: #1926442 15:05 - sponsored netplan.io SRUs (Hirsute & Focal) for schopin 15:05 - roadmap discussions around systemd & netplan 15:05 === Netplan === 15:05 - Testing and fixing smaller issues with core20/edge vs netplan 0.103 vs NM 15:05 Launchpad bug 1942899 in systemd (Ubuntu Impish) "Revert Add ACCEL_LOCATION=base property for Dell clamshell models" [Medium, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1942899 15:05 Launchpad bug 1942113 in glibc (Ubuntu) "systemd unit test regression in autopkgtest (oomd-utils)" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1942113 15:05 Launchpad bug 1942930 in netplan "Unset a subtree crashes" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1942930 15:05 Bug 10212 in openssl (Ubuntu) "der_chop script has file in /tmp security holes" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10212 15:05 Launchpad bug 1926442 in Snappy "[SRU] cannot execute 'netplan generate' from within a snap" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1926442 15:05 + https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/238 15:05 + https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/snappy-hwe-snaps/+git/network-manager/+merge/409679 15:05 - prepared https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/235 (glib 2.70 compatibility) 15:05 - reviewed https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/237 15:05 - review & merged https://github.com/canonical/netplan/pull/236, pending SRU 15:05 - starting to enable tests in Debian (incompatiblities with ifupdonw/resolvconf) 15:05 + working on Debian v0.103 merge 15:05 Pull 238 in canonical/netplan "parse-nm: Handle missing gateway in keyfile routes, keep dns-search fallback" [Open] 15:05 (done) 15:05 Pull 235 in canonical/netplan "generate:dbus:util: glib 2.70 compat" [Open] 15:05 Pull 237 in canonical/netplan "feat: mdns configuration (LP: #1830507)" [Open] 15:06 Pull 236 in canonical/netplan "netplan: set: make it possible to unset a whole devtype subtree (LP: #1942930) (FR-1685)" [Merged] 15:06 * proposed-migration: focused on identifying and fixing bottlenecks in the britney runs, to fix longstanding concerns about the rate of iteration in Ubuntu (LP: #1904880) 15:06 Launchpad bug 1904880 in britney "Update_excuses is permanently outdated" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1904880 15:06 * fixed some bottlenecks related to the large number of hints in use; the hints implementation was not designed to be scalable 15:06 * identified some wasteful reports that were broken and haven't been used in 5 years, so stopped generating them 15:06 * downloading of autopkgtest results from swift is NOT a chokepoint 15:06 * reduced proposed-migration iterations with the most recent set of packages in -proposed from ~1h30m to ~30m 15:06 * will be looking some more now that there are a lot more packages in -proposed, to see if we have any different bottlenecks worth examining 15:06 * tzdata SRU reviews 15:06 (done) 15:06 * Catching up after 2-week vacation 15:06 * A LOT of queue reviews for impish 15:06 * Hint reviews 15:06 * NEW reviews of sense-hat packages 15:06 * 21.10: 15:06 - Prepared tracking document 15:06 - Coordinated langpacks, webteam and release notes prep 15:06 - Updated ubiquity translations, poked Michael about DDTP updates 15:07 * ubuntu-cdimage simplestreams: 15:07 - Improved the test story 15:07 - Found a few more edge cases but now on the right track 15:07 * Discussions with the Ubuntu Core team 15:07 * Discussion with UC and Launchpad about future coreXX series bootstrapping 15:07 * Debugging core22 build issues on impish - requires a new snapd 15:07 - Added workaround to use the edge snapd during build 15:07 * Adding bionic and focal to the ESM britney handling, fix weird utf-8 crash 15:07 * ubuntu-image roadmap discussions 15:07 (done) 15:07 Oct 07: 15:07 * reviewed shims 15:07 - ACK Rocky Linux 8 (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/194) 15:07 Issue 194 in rhboot/shim-review "Shim 15.4 for Rocky Linux 8" [Open] 15:07 - NAK AmZetta (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/211) 15:07 Issue 211 in rhboot/shim-review "SHIM 15.4 for AmZetta Technologies, LLC" [Open] 15:07 - NAK NComputing (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/206) 15:07 Issue 206 in rhboot/shim-review "SHIM 15.4 for NComputing Global, Inc." [Open] 15:07 - NAK CBL-D (https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review/issues/203) 15:07 Issue 203 in rhboot/shim-review "Shim 15.4 for CBL-D" [Open] 15:07 * merged a pull request from chriscoulson 15:07 * reviewed https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt/-/merge_requests/185 on IRC 15:07 Merge 185 in apt-team/apt "add pattern to select packages by priority (closes: #989558)" [Opened] 15:07 * further grub2 initrdfail work for bionic LP: #1925507, LP: #1929860, LP: #1901553 15:07 Launchpad bug 1925507 in grub2 (Ubuntu Focal) "grub-common: snapd autopkgtests fail on s390x" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1925507 15:07 Launchpad bug 1929860 in grub2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "initrdfail can result in resuming with different initrd images and hanging resume" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1929860 15:08 Launchpad bug 1901553 in grub2 (Ubuntu Focal) "Improve documentation around initrdless boot" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901553 15:08 (done) 15:08 #1945807 bbrun: build failure on RISC-V -> debdiff created - to be changed in Debian first 15:08 #1945803 a2jmidid: building on RISC-V fails -> debdiff created - to be changed in Debian first 15:08 #1945787 heimdal: fails to build, symbols don't match -> fix released 15:08 Analyzed GRUB TFTP failure: patches sent upstream (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2021-10/msg00028.html) 15:08 15:08 * Hinted sshuttle so openssh finally migrated \o/ 15:08 * Investigated sshuttle failure but haven't narrowed down a cause 15:08 * Re-write ubuntu-image in Go: 15:08 * All states written! 15:08 * Manually testing many scenarios (pc-amd64/classic, core18, core20, raspi) 15:08 * Big code cleanup and adding testing asserters for cleaner test functions and duplicate code reduction 15:08 * Still writing test cases, currently over 99% test coverage 15:08 * Expect to open a PR today 15:08 * Adding new --validation flag per pedronis' PR to the python ubuntu-image 15:08 [done] 15:09 doko: 15:09 - had to take a vacation day on Wed for some errands 15:09 - no-change uploads for zstd compression, fixing some fallout 15:09 (done) 15:10 are there any questions on status? 15:10 #topic Release Incoming Bugs 15:10 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html 15:11 bug 1945848 15:11 Bug 1945848 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No Russian layout during keyboard configuration setup" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1945848 15:12 this should be fixed please ;) 15:12 some day we'll have a flutter installer and all will be well with desktop settings 15:12 in the meantime... 15:13 eeek 15:13 okay, so let's target it and card it 15:13 Yes 15:13 Who'd be a good candidate to work on this? 15:13 any volunteers? 15:13 I could take a look, will pull in Gunnar 15:13 I have opinions but not necessarily the time 15:13 Together we will be invincible 15:14 as long as sil2100 has the time, given that he's also on point for the release 15:15 bug 1231091 15:15 Bug 1231091 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screenreader starts, but does not work with installer (ubiquity) in live session" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231091 15:15 that's a rather low bug number 15:15 I thought we'd talked about it before 15:15 I therefore doubt it's legit and there should've been a new bug report opened for any current issues 15:16 No, its a legit issue but one we decided wasn't really fixable 15:16 oh 15:17 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1231091/comments/9 15:17 Launchpad bug 1231091 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screenreader starts, but does not work with installer (ubiquity) in live session" [High, Triaged] 15:18 we'll pass on that one 15:18 bug 1943077 15:18 Bug 1943077 in squashfs-tools (Ubuntu) "snapd fails to autopkgtest on mksquashfs, which is looking for libgcc_s" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1943077 15:19 snapd snapcraft has a fix for this, but the latest snapd upload still has the same adt failure. Perhaps the deb package portion needs a fix also. 15:20 so likely no action here for Foundations prior to release? 15:21 Yeah, I know this one, this was actually the source of the core22 build issues on impish we've been seeing 15:21 tag was added with https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1943077/comments/7 15:21 Launchpad bug 1943077 in squashfs-tools (Ubuntu) "snapd fails to autopkgtest on mksquashfs, which is looking for libgcc_s" [Undecided, New] 15:21 is that portion of the problem release critical? 15:22 there is snapd in -proposed, does it fix this? 15:22 sadly not, unless you snap refresh snapd from edge 15:22 it's the new release they cut 15:22 hmm 15:23 in that comment #7 it says: snap (at "/snap/snapd/current") is older ("2.51.7") than distribution package ("2.53~pre1.git19b68f708") 15:23 well, unless someone thinks there are fixes needed still to squashfs-tools we should pass on this 15:23 so it's probably unrelated to the deb 15:23 I don't believe squashfs-tools changes are needed 15:23 okay so moving on then 15:23 bug 1943816 15:23 Bug 1943816 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "'ubuntu-drivers install' needs to be used when installing nvidia-driver if enabling 'third-party packages'" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1943816 15:24 dbungert: do you want to follow up with the snapd team to check if this is supposed to be released to stable before we cut release images? 15:24 ack 15:24 I know I discussed this one previously, and suggested we want tseliot to look at it 15:24 as the primary maintainer of that package 15:25 it is assigned to him 15:25 can someone reach out to him (on European time) and check if he's working on fixing it for release? 15:26 i can do that 15:26 thanks 15:26 oh bug 1944519 was already carded 15:26 Bug 1944519 in casper (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Mate shutdown prompt is missing - system reboots at once" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1944519 15:27 I'll have a look at that today 15:27 #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html 15:27 that's empty 15:27 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 15:27 is also empty 15:28 This bug was brought up to our attention LP: #1946001 15:28 Launchpad bug 1946001 in linux-aws (Ubuntu Impish) "impish:linux 5.13 panic during systemd autotest" [Critical, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1946001 15:29 The release team is aware of this 15:29 #topic Team proposed-migration report 15:29 ok excellent 15:29 [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs 15:29 apport is blocking glibc, bdmurray is hinting that 15:30 sbcl is confusing, it seems to be a genuine regression but we're not sure why 15:30 if anyone here wants to dig into that, more eyes wouldn't hurt 15:30 what is sbcl? 15:30 a lisp interpreter 15:30 southwestern bell common lisp 15:31 I am amused by the backtrace, "Running (SLEEP :PRETTY-MUCH-FOREVER)" --> timed out 15:31 ginggs: ? 15:32 anyway, systemd vs linux-aws is bound to be the kernel issue described above, so ignoring 15:32 sure 15:32 we're close to release, so let's go a bit further into the 'not yet late' packages 15:32 systemd: slyon are you working on resolving the autopkgtest regressions? 15:32 yes. 15:33 snapd is the libgcc_s issue 15:33 docker might be regressed in release. I will double check both of that and file hints if needed 15:33 slyon: so are you proposing an override hint for snapd? 15:34 libdrm, not our upload; I'm hitting retry just to see and will follo wup 15:34 vorlon: probably yes. dbungert: how did you handle that issue in the past? You hinted it, right? 15:34 slyon: we skiptested the other packages, not snapd directly 15:34 doko: lvm2 is xnox's upload to fix your previous ftbfs upload, do you want to look at this? 15:34 ok 15:35 docker had / has a hint 15:35 at the time snapd still had the cgroupv2 issue so I considered that test failure vs systemd to be legit 15:35 oh, just not for amd64 15:35 and the rest of the packages on this list are the packages doko uploaded today, so done 15:35 ugh, I'll give it a try 15:38 bdmurray: back to you 15:38 #topic AOB 15:39 Monday is a US holiday but I'm not taking it because its release week! 15:39 I am taking Monday however 15:39 ... whereas I'm taking Friday which is NOT a French holiday ;-) 15:40 I'm doing the same as bdmurray: swapping Monday for Friday 15:40 I'm swapping Monday for I don't know what yet 15:41 eka-Veteran's day 15:42 okay, thanks everbody 15:42 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.4.0 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)