== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status meeting, started by cpaelzer, 28 Sep at 14:29 — 14:45 UTC. * Full logs at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-09-28-14.29.log.html == Meeting summary == === Review of previous action items === Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:30. === current component mismatches === Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:33. * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg (cpaelzer, 14:33) * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg (cpaelzer, 14:33) === New MIRs === Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:34. * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir (cpaelzer, 14:34) * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/egl-wayland/+bug/1935082/comments/20 (cpaelzer, 14:35) * ''ACTION:'' sarnold to contact alberto milone to make a better "special HW test statement" on bug 1935082 (cpaelzer, 14:41) === Incomplete bugs / questions === Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:42. * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir (cpaelzer, 14:42) === Any other business? === Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:43. == Action items, by person == * sarnold * sarnold to contact alberto milone to make a better "special HW test statement" on bug 1935082 == People present (lines said) == * cpaelzer (56) * sarnold (12) * slyon (6) * didrocks (5) * ubottu (5) * meetingology (3) * ddstreet (2) == Full log == 14:29 #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status 14:29 Meeting started at 14:29:40 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 14:29 good morning 14:29 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 14:29 ping ddstreet, sarnold, didrocks, slyon, (doko) and jamespage for MIR team meeting 14:30 hey 14:30 Hello everyone o/ 14:30 o/ 14:30 #topic Review of previous action items 14:31 I've seen we had a few review upadtes but those (if needed) will come at later stages 14:31 the only independent activty is the update to the microlib testing that I was driving 14:31 latest state is here https://github.com/cpaelzer/ubuntu-mir/pull/1/files 14:31 Pull 1 in cpaelzer/ubuntu-mir "Rules for tests on the app-level" [Open] 14:31 I have two acks on the PR and a "ok" on the mail 14:31 no other feedback 14:31 therefore I'd think I can merge this after the meeting 14:31 please speak up if you think otherwise 14:32 +1 14:32 (for merging it) 14:32 +1 (I can't recall if I replied via email or elsewhere..) 14:32 Thanks, I'll somewhen in the next weeks then take the bigger task to unite rules and templates 14:32 good luck :) 14:32 Once I have something reviewable I'll again send a PR around to everyone 14:33 Going on with the agenda 14:33 #topic current component mismatches 14:33 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg 14:33 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg 14:33 looks like nothing new 14:33 agreed 14:33 the latest news on fence-agents is that we have uploaded a fix to the one remaining blocker 14:33 it is currently held in impish-unapproved 14:34 o/ 14:34 once through there I'll ping for promotion to main 14:34 hello sorry im late o/ 14:34 np ddstreet 14:34 ok, nothing new here - going on ... 14:34 #topic New MIRs 14:34 cpaelzer: do we care about the amt_ws agent? https://github.com/ClusterLabs/fence-agents/issues/434 may or may not be important 14:34 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:34 Issue 434 in ClusterLabs/fence-agents "misplaced python 'or' causes dead code" [Open] 14:35 here we have a first of a kind in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/egl-wayland/+bug/1935082 14:35 Launchpad bug 1935082 in egl-wayland (Ubuntu) "[MIR] egl-wayland" [Undecided, Confirmed] 14:35 this refers to the recently added rules about "testing with special HW" 14:35 I didn't want to ake the call alone as interperting a very new rule might be interesting 14:35 so I wanted to ask if the statement at 14:35 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/egl-wayland/+bug/1935082/comments/20 14:36 I wish tseliot had been more detailed in his responses.. but as a first, it's not so bad. 14:36 Rule is 14:36 "If no build tests nor autopkgtests are included, and/or if the package requires specific hardware to perform testing, the subscribed team must provide a written test plan in a comment to the MIR bug, and commit to running that test either at each upload of the package or at least once each release cycle. In the comment to the MIR bug, please link to the codebase of these tests (scripts or doc of manual steps) and attach a full log of these 14:36 test runs. This is meant to assess their validity (e.g. not just superficial)" 14:36 I agree this fully apply to the testing with special HW rule 14:37 The "test plan" is a bit lighter than I'd have hoped 14:37 agreed 14:37 I don't know how to enable KMS, nor how to make sure it is enabled; I don't know what games would work -- what's glxgears on wayland? :) etc 14:37 the idea when writing the rule was "if we see an example plan and test log we can be more sure it is actually done" 14:37 but in this case not much logs exist as it is all UI 14:38 so my question to eventually vote on - is that statement enough or do we want/need to return that for something better (making a bad first case might invite others to be sloppy where it could be better)? 14:39 I think we should ask for something better. 14:39 mm, good point 14:39 Like some commands of how to check if KMS is enabled, which application to run, etc. (as sarnold suggested) 14:40 I'm tending to request something better as well 14:40 but I had expressed it in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/egl-wayland/+bug/1935082/comments/19 and that didn't help "enough" 14:40 Launchpad bug 1935082 in egl-wayland (Ubuntu) "[MIR] egl-wayland" [Undecided, Confirmed] 14:40 would anyone volunteer to help Alberto to add something better in this bug? 14:40 sure 14:41 is that the volunteering sarnold? 14:41 yup! 14:41 thank you a lot 14:41 I agree that we should have a better test case. As this is trusting the uploader that each upload is carefully tested, not wanting to write it up won’t help and make future uploads trustable IMHO 14:41 #action sarnold to contact alberto milone to make a better "special HW test statement" on bug 1935082 14:41 * meetingology sarnold to contact alberto milone to make a better "special HW test statement" on bug 1935082 14:42 Bug 1935082 in egl-wayland (Ubuntu) "[MIR] egl-wayland" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1935082 14:42 ok, going on then 14:42 #topic Incomplete bugs / questions 14:42 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:43 the recent bumps are fuse (Trevinho was so kind to help all upstremas by providing PRs) 14:43 and libportal which didrocks reviewed 14:43 nothing that needs immediate further activity AFAICS 14:43 #topic Any other business? 14:43 nothing from me 14:43 nothing here 14:43 nothing either 14:44 nothing from me 14:44 ddstreet: I know you are busy, but do you have anything else or a comment ont he backlog? 14:44 ok I consider this a no and he also knows where to reach us 14:44 closing ... 14:44 thank you all! 14:44 thanks cpaelzer, all :) 14:45 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.4.0 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)