15:31 <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status 15:31 <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:31:09 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 15:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 15:31 <sarnold> good morning 15:31 <doko> o/ 15:31 <cpaelzer> hello doko sarnold didrocks jamespage ddstreet 15:31 <ddstreet> o/ 15:32 <cpaelzer> let us get this party started 15:32 <jamespage> o/ 15:32 <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items 15:32 <cpaelzer> only reviews, but of that a lot 15:32 <cpaelzer> I've seen ddstreet complete one 15:32 <cpaelzer> I myself completed a bunch and helped doko 15:32 <cpaelzer> so let me turn this around - are there MIR review left open that you'd know of? 15:33 <cpaelzer> I checked before the meeting and only found new cases (to be distributed today) and such assigned to seucrity atm 15:33 <cpaelzer> let me knwo if you are backlog on a review so we can make sure it is not blocked on us for too long 15:33 <cpaelzer> you can also reply on that later 15:33 <cpaelzer> let us go on 15:33 <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches 15:33 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg 15:33 <cpaelzer> smaller than it was as several things resolved 15:34 <cpaelzer> nothing new in there 15:34 <cpaelzer> needrestart will later be distrubted for reviews 15:34 <cpaelzer> all other unapproved but existing MIRs are on security 15:34 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg 15:35 <cpaelzer> diddledan: can https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinih/+bug/1883890 be promoted now? 15:35 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1883890 in libinih (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libinih" [Undecided,Fix committed] 15:35 <cpaelzer> sorry, I meant didrocks 15:35 <diddledan> :-p 15:35 <didrocks> o/ 15:35 <didrocks> diddledan is used to it :) 15:35 <didrocks> yes, I just need to update the status 15:36 <didrocks> ah, I did it, that was a week ago :) 15:36 <cpaelzer> ok I'll leave this case with you then 15:36 <didrocks> pending on seb doing the correct upload 15:36 <cpaelzer> oh I thought that happened already 15:36 <cpaelzer> but ok 15:36 <cpaelzer> that is the right way 15:36 <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs 15:36 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:37 <cpaelzer> that is one bug with 5 dependencies 15:37 <cpaelzer> each of us pick one to review ? 15:37 <didrocks> (all perl though, Friday task for sure…) 15:37 <didrocks> taking the first one libint-perl 15:38 <cpaelzer> OTOH 4/5 of those are lib*perl which have a quick pass process AFAIK from doko explaining us last time 15:38 <cpaelzer> yeah me takes the second fin-perl 15:38 <cpaelzer> find 15:38 <didrocks> "wooohooo" 15:38 <cpaelzer> everyone should realize that the last one gets the only complex package 15:38 <cpaelzer> so volunteer yourself fast :-) 15:39 <cpaelzer> three mroe to go libmodule-scandeps-perl libsort-naturally-perl and needrestart itself 15:39 <doko> lib*-perl ;p 15:39 <didrocks> if I were you, I would avoid anything with *scan* in the name :) 15:39 <cpaelzer> ok doko is the *perl* pro and got two 15:39 <cpaelzer> that leaves needrestart for ddstreet or sarnold or jamespage ? 15:39 <cpaelzer> who has a chance to do this the next few days? 15:39 <ddstreet> sure, i can take it 15:40 <cpaelzer> aesome 15:40 <cpaelzer> +w 15:40 <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions 15:40 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 15:41 <cpaelzer> mtd is on security and only shows up here for the dependency tracking 15:41 <cpaelzer> fixed 15:41 <cpaelzer> abseil is not to be promoted and sorted out by seb128 15:41 <cpaelzer> ok for now IMHO 15:41 <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business? 15:42 <cpaelzer> didrocks: what became of the voting? 15:42 <cpaelzer> still many are missing right? 15:42 <cpaelzer> I've seen activity of most of us here today 15:42 <didrocks> yeah :/ 15:42 <cpaelzer> what is the summary on votes so far 15:42 <didrocks> I can reask by email 15:42 <cpaelzer> sure 15:43 <cpaelzer> WFM 15:43 <didrocks> basically, +2 (you and I) based on the according tooling being developed and -1 from doko 15:43 <didrocks> I told we can invite the requester (seb) to the conversation 15:43 <didrocks> no answer 15:43 <didrocks> I feel people being against should discuss with the requester (either during the meeting, but it obviously doesn’t work) or via email 15:43 <cpaelzer> jamespage: sarnold: ddstreet: anyone of you able to call your vote on this now? 15:43 <cpaelzer> or do we need to go to mail again? 15:44 <ddstreet> i can vote now, sure 15:44 <didrocks> sarnold voted +0 IIRC, but that was off email and without the full rationale, unsure if he would revisit 15:44 <sarnold> I thin kI'd prefer the email; I voted -1 way back when, but I think I remembered some of the email conversation causing me to lean towards a +1 if there's sufficient changes .. it's been so long, i'd like to reread things 15:45 <ddstreet> specifically the vote is for 'can a team subscriber wait until after MIR approval before subscribing' right? 15:45 <didrocks> exactly 15:45 <didrocks> and one proposal is: "given that we write some tooling for AA to ensure at least one of whitelisted team is subscribed to bugs" 15:45 * jamespage reads again 15:46 <didrocks> (which will help in the cause of demotion -> promotion after a while because it was already in main in the past) 15:46 <ddstreet> i'm +1 on it, provided there is either tooling or at least a small process doc change to account for the change in process 15:46 <didrocks> (I don’t think the tooling would be too complex, so better that only relying on doc, which still needs to be updated) 15:47 <didrocks> that than* 15:47 <cpaelzer> seems you have a majority already with 3 on "if the tooling exists and process docs update" 15:47 <cpaelzer> maybe if jamespage has a vote as well this can conclude 15:48 <jamespage> I'm +1 but concur with cpaelzer esp in his point 2) about the intended team subscribed at least being documented in the MIR 15:48 <cpaelzer> then it would be on your didrocks to prep and propose the AA-tooling changes - once accepted we can update the MIR docs 15:48 <didrocks> ack then, so 2 tasks before allowing this change of process: AA-tooling + doc 15:48 <cpaelzer> and from that point no more us but the AAs would check for the subscription 15:48 <didrocks> yeah, just the fact that a team will volounteer to be subscribed 15:48 <cpaelzer> and I'd emphasize in the doc update that there is nothing bad at all if one wants to subscribe early 15:49 <didrocks> ofc 15:49 <cpaelzer> just that you no more "have to" 15:49 <cpaelzer> ok that LGTM now 15:49 <cpaelzer> anything else? 15:49 <didrocks> sounds good :) 15:49 <cpaelzer> didrocks: for auditability would you summarize that as reply to the thread you started? 15:49 <didrocks> moving to the Go discussion? (another email thread to close) 15:49 <didrocks> cpaelzer: will do 15:49 <cpaelzer> Uh you tihnk we will get far with Go today ... ? 15:49 <didrocks> no, was more some kind of a joke, really :) 15:50 <sarnold> :) 15:50 <didrocks> just a gentle reminder if people can contribute to it 15:50 <cpaelzer> worth a ping yeah 15:50 <cpaelzer> ok closing for today 15:50 <cpaelzer> thanks for all your time 15:50 <cpaelzer> and happy reviewing 15:50 <didrocks> thanks! 15:50 <cpaelzer> #endmeeting