23:11 <wxl> #startmeeting Community Council meeting
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23:11 <wxl> welcome everyone to yet another episode of the Community Council meeting
23:11 <wxl> i'll be your chair today
23:11 <wxl> unfortunately, i didn't do my job and create an agenda so we'll go off of the minutes from the last meeting
23:11 <wxl> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/minutes-for-the-2021-02-03-community-council-meeting/20761
23:12 <wxl> that said…
23:12 <jose> #chair wxl teward linaporras jose Eickmeyer toddy nhaines
23:12 <teward> *burps*
23:12 <meetingology> Current chairs: Eickmeyer, jose, linaporras, nhaines, teward, toddy, wxl
23:12 <wxl> oh yeah thanks for that. i forget how to work this thing :)
23:12 <wxl> #topic Local Communities Research Committee
23:13 <toddy> I have created the vote
23:13 <wxl> so we have all of our nominations
23:13 <jose> we have all voted I think
23:13 <wxl> we didn't get the full representation we wanted globally, but we did pretty good
23:13 <toddy> yes, but from two regions we have no nominations
23:14 <wxl> so do we have a tally?
23:14 <linaporras> Yes we still have that problem, mabe through the research they committee can find active members there...
23:14 <linaporras> *maybe
23:15 <jose> I'd say let's give toddy some time to tally and process the votes, and communicate the results via email
23:15 <toddy> Now, all council members have vote
23:15 <toddy> I will communicate the results via email
23:15 <linaporras> cool!
23:15 <wxl> ok that works
23:15 <nhaines> yay!
23:15 <wxl> in any case we're moving forward and that's a good sign
23:16 <toddy> yes
23:16 <wxl> outside of informing the members of their new roles, is there anything else we need to do to get them started on the work at hand?
23:16 <linaporras> I do not know if a meeting with them would be useful...
23:16 <toddy> should we create a launchpad project for them?
23:17 <jose> for tracking work items?
23:17 <jose> that would work
23:17 <wxl> i think maybe both of those ideas are good ones
23:17 <toddy> yes
23:17 <linaporras> 🤔
23:17 <nhaines> Couldn't hurt.
23:17 <wxl> maybe we should have them set it up?
23:19 <jose> either way works for me
23:19 <toddy> I think we can do it and so we are the owner of the project/group
23:19 <wxl> ah fair point toddy
23:19 <wxl> ok so who wants to do that?
23:19 <toddy> o/
23:20 <wxl> okie dokie then
23:20 <wxl> #action toddy to set up a Launchpad project for the LCRC with the CC as owner.
23:20 * meetingology toddy to set up a Launchpad project for the LCRC with the CC as owner.
23:20 <wxl> linaporras: do you want to try to set up a meeting? your idea was a good one, i think
23:21 * wxl drops a pin
23:21 <linaporras> Yes
23:21 <wxl> okie dokie then :)
23:21 * nhaines picks up a pin
23:21 <nhaines> wxl: you dropped this.
23:21 <wxl> oh!
23:22 <linaporras> I can do it, we can set the meeting at this channel or do you prefer something like a videocall...
23:22 <wxl> #acction linaporras to set up a meeting between the LCRC and the CC.
23:22 <wxl> i kan spel
23:22 <wxl> #action linaporras to set up a meeting between the LCRC and the CC.
23:22 * meetingology linaporras to set up a meeting between the LCRC and the CC.
23:22 <wxl> i don't think it matters too much. whatever works best for the lcrc i think
23:22 <wxl> anyone else have anything else on the LCRC?
23:22 <nhaines> That can be their first decision!
23:23 <wxl> i'll take that apparent silence as a no
23:23 <linaporras> 😀
23:23 <wxl> #topic IRC Council
23:23 <wxl> as i understand nhaines was supposed to report about the IRC Council and the current status of memberships at the last meeting
23:24 <nhaines> Yes.  I've emailed out (a bit late) and expect to hear back... but by next meeting.
23:24 <wxl> ok
23:24 <nhaines> So no updates on that but I'll start harassing people via IRC if I don't hear back in a week.  :)
23:24 <wxl> #action nhaines to provide status of IRC Council by next meeting.
23:24 * meetingology nhaines to provide status of IRC Council by next meeting.
23:24 <nhaines> +1
23:25 <wxl> i'm going to skip GSOC as it seemed to me like we had generally discounted that idea
23:25 <wxl> that said
23:25 <jose> sounds fair
23:25 <wxl> #topic New business
23:25 <linaporras> ok
23:25 <wxl> anything else?
23:26 <linaporras> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ANtbzX9s/
23:26 <linaporras> I saw the e-mail Confusion over ESM and "Standard Support" vs. End of LIfe
23:26 <linaporras> any news on that?
23:26 <teward> nothing
23:26 <linaporras> Sorry by the snippet...
23:26 <teward> that literally went out last night
23:26 <teward> so it's very new in the list.
23:27 <teward> THIS SAID
23:27 <linaporras> Ok... Guess could be a topic for our next meeting... to see how that evolves... is that ok?
23:27 <teward> there seems to be consensus among multiple individuals that we need hard definitions made
23:27 <teward> hence the email going out
23:27 <teward> (hggdh of the IRCC agreed)
23:27 <wxl> i agree
23:27 <wxl> teward: can i assign an item to you to report on your findings next meeting?
23:27 <teward> message was CC'd to the Community Council and TB, and I have an email to CC responses to for IRCC.
23:27 <nhaines> I agree, I think the categories are pretty simple, we just need them defined.
23:28 <teward> wxl: assuming I get any responses, yes.
23:28 <nhaines> Because they've changed since the beginning.  :)
23:28 <teward> indeed, not to mention we need a firmer definition of "at what point should the Community Support Options be unsuable?" and generally that'd be "End of Standard Support"
23:28 <wxl> #topic teward to provide an update by next meeting on the ESM/Standard Support/EoL confusion
23:29 <wxl> ugh i made that a topic?
23:29 <teward> namely that ESM as a paid service has Paid Support which is the only way to get extended support via Canonical
23:29 <wxl> wow help me
23:29 <teward> wxl: *wags the Finger of Shame at you*
23:29 <wxl> #action teward to provide an update by next meeting on the ESM/Standard Support/EoL confusion
23:29 * meetingology teward to provide an update by next meeting on the ESM/Standard Support/EoL confusion
23:29 <wxl> so moving on
23:29 <wxl> #topic any other business
23:29 <wxl> anything else??/
23:31 <nhaines> I do want to mention that Ubuntu members get ESM, too.  I forget if that's available to the community for a couple machines as well.
23:31 <wxl> huh i didn't know that
23:31 <nhaines> But it's similar to the Livepatch situation.
23:31 <wxl> ok well it sounds like that's it so i'm going to call the meeting in 10 seconds
23:31 <jose> i do
23:31 <jose> just wanted to bring you up to speed
23:31 <nhaines> jose with the last minute.
23:32 <linaporras> jajajaja
23:32 <wxl> second, almost
23:32 <jose> Canonical now has two community representatives, Rhys and Monica. I'll be meeting with them within the month in order to chat about their role and what our priorities are, so they can also help us with moving forward any items that might need an insider push
23:32 <wxl> nice!
23:32 <nhaines> \o/
23:32 <toddy> cool
23:33 <wxl> #info Canonical now has two community representatives, Rhys and Monica!
23:33 <madhens> Hello, all :)
23:33 <nhaines> madhens: hello!  :)
23:33 <wxl> oh hai
23:33 <wxl> NICE
23:33 <madhens> I just wanted to drop in casually but I am so excited about working with all of you, and please, reach out here or at monica.ayhens.madon@canonical.com anytime. :)
23:34 <linaporras> the benefit... that mention  nhaines, we should put it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership, right?
23:34 <nhaines> After we confirm it, yes.
23:34 <wxl> OH WAIT IT'S YOU, MONICA???? oh man, this is great!
23:34 <linaporras> Hi, nice to meet u
23:34 <jose> I would delegate that item to the RMBs since they own the membership process
23:34 <madhens> wxl: Hahahahaha!!!
23:35 <jose> welcome to the party :)
23:35 <linaporras> I found this: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ua-services-deployed-from-the-command-line-with-ua-client but yes we can confirm and delegate...
23:35 <madhens> jose: Thank you! Next time I'll bring snacks. :)
23:35 <nhaines> linaporras: yes, I thought I remembered that.  Thanks! :)
23:36 <wxl> don't forget the tea!
23:36 <madhens> lina: Very nice to meet you too!
23:36 <jose> that's all I had, I'll share more news as I have them. It's going to be a long working cycle, I'm sure :)
23:36 <madhens> wxl: Oh, I never forget the tea. :)
23:36 <nhaines> madhens: Welcome! :)
23:36 <linaporras> cool!
23:36 <wxl> ditto that :)
23:37 <madhens> nhaines: Hello, and thank you!
23:37 <linaporras> so for the benefit jose... for the delegation an update of that item... can you write to them or ?
23:39 <jose> would you be able to take that action item, please? I'm a bit busy with work so can't make a commitment at this point
23:39 <linaporras> ok i'll do it
23:39 <linaporras> no problem
23:39 <jose> thank you :)
23:39 <wxl> this is updating the membership thingy?
23:39 <wxl> with esm?
23:40 <linaporras> yes
23:40 <wxl> ok
23:40 <linaporras> confirm the benefit and updated
23:40 <linaporras> update it
23:40 <linaporras> jaja
23:40 <wxl> #action linaporras to confirm that Ubuntu members get ESM as a benefit and update the wiki accordingly.
23:40 * meetingology linaporras to confirm that Ubuntu members get ESM as a benefit and update the wiki accordingly.
23:41 <wxl> ok we done now?
23:41 <jose> no
23:41 <jose> we have to choose a chair for the next meeting
23:41 <linaporras> me
23:42 <linaporras> i told u the previous meeting
23:42 <jose> oh okay, I forgot
23:42 <jose> there, problem solved
23:42 <jose> now we done
23:42 <linaporras> I will do my first chair here jeje
23:42 <nhaines> That was easy!
23:42 <nhaines> Thanks linaporras  :)
23:42 <wxl> #action linaporras is our next meeting chair!
23:42 * meetingology linaporras is our next meeting chair!
23:42 <wxl> ok now we're done? :)
23:42 <linaporras> 👍
23:43 <wxl> ok shutting it down then
23:43 <wxl> thanks everyone
23:43 <wxl> #endmeeting