23:05 <toddy> #startmeeting Ubuntu Community Council Meeting 23:05 <meetingology> Meeting started at 23:05:29 UTC. The chair is toddy. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 23:05 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 23:05 <toddy> #chair linaporras teward jose toddy 23:06 <meetingology> Current chairs: jose, linaporras, teward, toddy 23:06 <toddy> Welcome everyone to the Ubuntu Community Council Meeting! 23:06 <toddy> We have an agenda for this meeting. 23:06 <toddy> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-topics-community-council-meeting-20210203/ 23:07 <toddy> If you have another topics please add them to the agenda. 23:07 <toddy> #topic Old business 23:07 <toddy> #subtopic Local Communities Research Committee 23:08 <toddy> #info The call for nominations of the LCRC will close Saturday, February 6, 2021 23:59 UTC. 23:08 <jose> I believe we're missing Africa and Oceania? 23:08 <toddy> that is this Saturday! 23:08 <toddy> jose: yes that is true 23:08 <toddy> the other 4 regions have nominations 23:08 <jose> do we have anyone we could reach out for suggestions on nominations for those regions? 23:10 <toddy> hmm, not so much ideas :( 23:10 <jose> I don't know of a lot of people in those regions 23:11 <jose> I could put out some social media posts asking for people in those two regions 23:11 <linaporras> Me neither... 23:11 <linaporras> Yes jose, that's a good idea... 23:11 <linaporras> And maybe at the discourse item, remark that? 23:12 <toddy> we can update the post at the community hub 23:12 <toddy> about that fact 23:12 <linaporras> I agree with that! 23:12 <toddy> and social media too 23:12 <jose> sounds good 23:12 <jose> I'm drafting something in social media now 23:13 <toddy> #action jose write a post for the LCRC in social media 23:13 * meetingology jose write a post for the LCRC in social media 23:13 <jose> #link https://twitter.com/JoseeAntonioR/status/1357104913050918912 23:14 <jose> I'll see if I can post something in linkedin but I just want to make sure it doesn't sound like a job offer 23:14 <toddy> retweet :) 23:15 <toddy> #action toddy write an update in the community hib about the LCRC missing regions 23:15 * meetingology toddy write an update in the community hib about the LCRC missing regions 23:15 <toddy> linkedin always sounds like job offer for me 23:16 <jose> yeah I will make sure it's VERY explicit on that it's not one 23:16 <toddy> ok 23:16 <wxl> (p.s. i'm here) 23:16 <toddy> #chair wxl 23:16 <meetingology> Current chairs: jose, linaporras, teward, toddy, wxl 23:16 <linaporras> jajaja I agree with u jose, clarify is not a job offer! 23:16 <linaporras> hi wxl 23:16 <wxl> hi lina! 23:17 <toddy> #action jose write at linkedin about the LCRC missing regions 23:17 * meetingology jose write at linkedin about the LCRC missing regions 23:18 <toddy> ok, than we will see if we get some people from this regions 23:18 <toddy> We have planned that we make the voting after Saturday. 23:19 <jose> Otherwise, we're going to have to make a separate call for those regions, but I'm hopeful we'll find someone 23:20 <toddy> ok, anything else about this topic? 23:20 <jose> I just want to say, we've gotten some promising candidates :) 23:20 <linaporras> I agree with jose... but in order to not delay the work of the research comitee, maybe we can agree to vote for the people of regions that have nominees, what do you think? 23:21 <linaporras> and launch the separate call... after.. just in case we don't find people on those regions 23:21 <jose> I'd be willing to make that compromise. Get started with what we have, and add people later on if needed. 23:22 <toddy> yes, that sounds good. 23:22 <jose> #link https://www.linkedin.com/posts/joseantonio-rey_local-communities-research-committee-activity-6762872891257180160-bPh5 23:22 <toddy> So we have a vote after Saturday 23:23 <jose> agreed 23:23 <toddy> fine 23:23 <toddy> #subtopic IRC Council and the current status of memberships 23:23 <jose> hmm, nhaines is not here to report 23:23 <teward> i'd say we can move getting the status update on that to the ML 23:24 <jose> I just poked him elsewhere 23:24 <teward> and just poke the heck out of nhaines 23:24 <teward> (not everything needs to be in the meeting esp. if they aren't here) 23:24 <toddy> agreed 23:24 <linaporras43> Hi again, I have a tech problem. 23:24 <jose> wb 23:24 <jose> and sounds good 23:24 <toddy> #topic News business 23:25 <teward> there's one thing the past 2 weeks that landed on my plate 23:25 <teward> TB wanted their ML 'about' changed, and that was done. 23:25 <teward> and I also poked IRCC about the confusion RE: the two cloaks that exist on IRC. 23:25 <teward> asked them to rediscuss and come back with their thoughts 23:26 <toddy> teward: ok 23:26 <teward> so that's two things. 23:26 <teward> (i need to grab another water, back in like 30 seconds) 23:26 <toddy> Should we talk about the Google Summer of Code? 23:27 <jose> we can, for a little bit 23:27 <toddy> #info Deadline for the registration of organisations for the Google Summer of Code is February 19, 2021. 23:27 <toddy> #link https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/ 23:27 <toddy> we have talk about it at the mailing list 23:28 <jose> I personally don't think that we're at the point where we can support this since it requires direct mentorship. But we can aim to get ready to participate next year. What do you say? 23:28 <wxl> i think google code-in is a really good project for us 23:28 <wxl> google summer of code is better for upstreams 23:29 <wxl> or those rare cases we have our own thing going on (snaps/snapcraft, multipass, whatever this new installer is, etc.) 23:29 <teward> though the new stuff and etc. probably needs a Canonical eye on it 23:29 <wxl> that's kind of what i was rthinking, too 23:29 <teward> because IIRC the 'new installer' is being Canonical driven 23:29 <teward> so the CC isn't the proper place for *that* discussion 23:29 <wxl> nopers 23:30 <toddy> should we talk about that with canonical? 23:30 <jose> I'm working on something that will probably help with that relationship 23:30 <jose> give me a few weeks 23:30 <wxl> alternately we can work with upstreams 23:30 <teward> jose: don't have time for GSoC 23:30 <wxl> maybe after we find out who is accepted, we see if we can't organize some help for them 23:31 <teward> making a point :P 23:31 <jose> no no I meant the relationship, not gsoc 23:31 <teward> ah 23:31 <teward> err:nocontext 23:31 <teward> :P 23:31 <teward> *yawns* 23:31 <toddy> :D 23:33 <wxl> are we done with that topic? 23:33 <toddy> I think so. 23:33 <wxl> i have another thing i'd like to bring up 23:33 <toddy> sorry, was a minute away 23:34 <toddy> ok, wxl 23:34 <wxl> i brought this up on irc but i really think we should do some sort of memorial or something in memory of infinity 23:34 <jose> go ahead 23:34 <wxl> ok XD 23:34 <wxl> anyone care what or how or anything? 23:35 <jose> maybe an annal? 23:35 <jose> we have action items in launchpad so we can get them from there 23:36 <wxl> ok that will do then 23:36 <wxl> i don't think i have anything else 23:36 <toddy> any other things? 23:37 <toddy> #topic Any other business 23:37 <teward> not really a CC *task* but for awareness: I did prod the TB about the recent... shall I call it "concerning chaos"... regarding the 5.8.x kernel regressions across the boards 23:37 <teward> they pretty quickly got a post-mortem out via Discord and wxl and the Lubuntu Team also have a bulletpoint summary as well on their Discourse 23:37 <teward> (i felt it was necessary to prod the TB and get something from SOMEONE about what 'went wrong') 23:37 <teward> but that's just a "i did this" bullet point :) 23:38 <jose> nice one! 23:38 <teward> felt the Community at large needed to know :P 23:38 <wxl> yeah great work on that teward. that was much needed 23:38 <toddy> sounds great. :) 23:38 <linaporras43> +1 23:38 <teward> while we delegate the tech stuff to TB, as a community member myself seeing Ask Ubuntu have **tons** of "My hardware was working then update BOOM" stuff, i wanted to get stuff rolling ;) 23:38 <teward> at least they're on top of things now and working to fix the regressions :P 23:38 <teward> </done> 23:39 <wxl> it may be true that those regressions are fixed 23:39 <teward> i'm seeing less and less complaints, my guess is they've been trying to fix any major regressions before the .2 release, which Makes Sense 23:39 <teward> but i'm glad the Release Team came back with a postmortem about what happened 23:40 <wxl> i asked a few questions there and they seem to be responding so that's all good 23:40 <wxl> and the actual problem was far more complicated that it had originally seemed 23:40 <wxl> anywho 23:41 <toddy> any other things/topics? 23:41 <wxl> one other thing about the TB: the mailing list got a bunch of bounces from members 23:41 <teward> yep. BUT I wanted to make it known that, while I didn't go to the TB with the CC hat on to open that 'can of worms' that needed cleaned and discussed, I did express that "On behalf of the "Community AT Large"..." which sort of implies CC. 23:41 <wxl> from what i can tell the ML removed them 23:41 <teward> wxl: yeah, want me to check with IS on them? 23:41 <teward> possible OldAccounts went away 23:41 <wxl> i'm not sure we should be concerned or not 23:41 <teward> wxl: to be fair I see bounce notifications all the time 23:42 <wxl> yeah this seemed odd to me but that may be just me 23:42 <teward> wxl: i don't think we need to be worried - that's from all subscribers to the TB list 23:42 <teward> not the TB members themselves 23:42 <wxl> there were several canonical names in there so i don't know 23:42 <teward> (and yes the TB list DOES have a lot of subs) 23:42 <teward> wxl: I'll reach out to IS and see if they can confirm accounts are bouncing because removals, etc. 23:42 <wxl> i only saw the messages the one time 23:42 <teward> other item of interest: discuss with linaporras about IRC boucners, it'll solve their timing out and exploding problems. 23:42 <wxl> so they appeared to be fatal 23:42 <teward> wxl: you only get once - when it says it halts delivery permanently. 23:43 <wxl> or just use matrix! 23:43 <teward> if we see messages agan I'll poke IS 23:43 <wxl> that's the one 23:43 <jose> thanks, no thanks 23:43 <toddy> thanks, teward 23:44 <toddy> anything else? 23:44 <wxl> nothing from me 23:44 <jose> I'm all good for now 23:45 <toddy> #info The next meeting is Wednesday, February 17, 2021 23:00 UTC 23:45 <toddy> Next chair is wxl? 23:45 <wxl> sure i'll take it i guess 23:45 <toddy> #action Next chair is wxl. 23:45 * meetingology Next chair is wxl. 23:45 <linaporras> I want yo chair The first meeting of march 23:46 <wxl> does that mean i have to do the meeting notes for this one? i forgot 23:46 <toddy> ok, linaporras 23:46 <toddy> wxl: for this meeting here? no, that is my task I think 23:46 <wxl> ok great 23:46 <jose> I think you need to build the agenda for the next one and then minutes of that one too 23:47 <wxl> right ok that's what i thought 23:47 <toddy> ok, alright 23:47 <toddy> than this is the end 23:48 <toddy> #endmeeting