16:01 <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
16:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 19 16:01:08 2020 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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16:01 <sil2100> o/
16:01 <bdmurray> #topic Lightning Round
16:01 <bdmurray> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)
16:01 <bdmurray> bdmurray sil2100 mwhudson xnox vorlon juliank doko rbalint slyon tdaitx waveform
16:01 <rbalint> o/
16:01 <bdmurray> uploaded Bionic SRU for LP: #1854148
16:01 <bdmurray> uploaded Groovy, Focal SRUs for LP: #1870060
16:01 <bdmurray> verified the above SRU
16:01 <bdmurray> uploaded Groovy, Focal SRUs for LP: #1848829
16:01 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1854148 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1854148). The error has been logged
16:01 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1870060 in apport (Ubuntu Groovy) "systemd ProtectSystem/mount namespace makes apport fail (impact most of our default system services)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870060
16:01 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1848829 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Groovy) "distribution upgrade failed due pip install of distro-info" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848829
16:02 <bdmurray> wrote a test case for the above too
16:02 <bdmurray> sponsored Bionic SRU for LP: #1611737
16:02 <bdmurray> investigation into gdb bug LP: #1818918
16:02 <bdmurray> merged libssh
16:02 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1611737 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "Can't upgrade from a release if ros packages are installed from ROS servers" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611737
16:02 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1818918 in gdb (Ubuntu) "gdb doesn't search in debug-file-directory for .gnu_debugaltlink" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1818918
16:02 <bdmurray> wrote a better tool for removing EoL crash data from the Error Tracker
16:02 <bdmurray> ✔ done
16:02 <bdmurray> sil2100:
16:02 <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
16:02 <sil2100> - Reviews for the focal HWE update
16:02 <sil2100> - NEW reviews
16:02 <sil2100> - DMB meeting
16:02 <sil2100> - Reviewing DBus get/set PR from Lukas
16:02 <sil2100> - Some training
16:02 <sil2100> - Adding new kab language-pack
16:02 <sil2100> - 20.04.2/EOL/Archive opening retrospective
16:02 <sil2100> - Finalizing some archive opening tasks in a work-session
16:02 <sil2100> - Started drafting action items for ESM britney
16:02 <sil2100> - Sponsoring some u-boot backports
16:02 <sil2100> - Discussions
16:02 <sil2100> - Working on the ubuntu-image backlog
16:02 <sil2100> (done)
16:03 <bdmurray> xnox:
16:03 <xnox> riscv64 build & cloud-images are now available as chroots, lxd, and non-bootable .img
16:03 <xnox> next livecd-rootfs upload to hirsute should make .img bootable with uboot-qemu
16:03 <xnox> made u-boot-menu look nicer with Ubuntu branding
16:03 <xnox> s390-tools 2.15.1 packaging work, now out.
16:03 <xnox> lots of things stuck in proposed migration
16:03 <xnox> done
16:04 <juliank> I don't really have anything public I can think of to say right now
16:04 <juliank> it's vorlon's turn actually
16:04 <bdmurray> vorlon: ?
16:05 <vorlon> * working on proposed-migration: ghc transition should finish today!
16:05 <vorlon> * discussions around handling of the nvidia-cuda-toolkit package in the archive
16:05 <bdmurray> sil2100: 20.04.2 retrospective? that's forward thinking
16:05 <vorlon> * next week: not going to be at the meeting because Thanksgiving
16:05 <vorlon> (done)
16:05 <doko> - started GCC 11 packaging
16:05 <doko> - investigated three different cross compiler ftbfs
16:05 <doko> - started bisecting our armhf compiler problem
16:05 <doko> - binutils & gcc updates
16:05 <doko> - various ftbfs fixes and test triggers
16:05 <doko> - +1 maintenance starting today
16:05 <doko> (done)
16:05 <sil2100> bdmurray: aaaaaaaa
16:05 <rbalint> * internal trainings
16:05 <rbalint> * landing glibc again to hirsute
16:05 <rbalint> * found more retry strings for autopkgtest infra
16:05 <rbalint> * reverted dash to fix LP: #1904406
16:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1904406 in systemd (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest hangs in timedated test" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1904406
16:05 <rbalint> * sponsored update-notifier 3.192.36 after fixing up the packaging repo's missing files
16:05 <rbalint> * partner work
16:05 <sil2100> bdmurray: was supposed to be 20.10 retrospective! What was I thinking?
16:05 <rbalint> * endorsed slyon's MOTU application
16:05 <rbalint> * +1 maintenance
16:05 <rbalint> (done)
16:05 <sil2100> bdmurray: it's not even close!
16:05 <slyon> - proposed-migration for curl, trying to fix etcd flakiness
16:05 <slyon> * some test retries and etcd hinted, MP#394173
16:05 <slyon> - s390-tools Bionic SRU, bug #1865032
16:05 <slyon> * Investigating bug #1860574 & bug #1859018 => invalid/released
16:05 <slyon> - Applied for MOTU & netplan.io PPU
16:05 <slyon> === Netplan ===
16:05 <slyon> - Investigating MTU bug #1724895 => fix released
16:05 <slyon> - Debugging interface rename issue via IRC, bug #1904662
16:05 <ubottu> bug 1865032 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU] zipl/libc: Fix potential buffer overflow in printf" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865032
16:06 <ubottu> bug 1860574 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU 20.04] zkey: Fix display of clear key size for XTS keys" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1860574
16:06 <ubottu> bug 1859018 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[UBUNTU 20.04] zkey: Fix listing of keys on file systems reporting DT_UNKNOWN." [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859018
16:06 <ubottu> bug 1724895 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "MTU not applied on private ethernet interfaces" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724895
16:06 <ubottu> bug 1904662 in netplan "netplan apply fails to rename network interfaces without reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1904662
16:06 <slyon> - Working on OVScon talk/slides
16:06 <slyon> - Discussions about NetworkManager snap & r/w plugin
16:06 <slyon> - Improving NM netplan backend spec
16:06 <slyon> - Improving DBus code from PR#170
16:06 <slyon> - Investigating 'link-local:' stanza => missing for NM backend
16:06 <slyon> - Looking into new PR#172
16:06 <slyon> (done)
16:06 <tdaitx> * finally got openjdk-8 to migrate from hirsute-proposed
16:06 <tdaitx> * opened bug 1903929 about openjdk uploads (non-default-java) triggering unnecessary tests)
16:06 <tdaitx> - digged into britney autopkgtest policy, depends, and relationships
16:06 <tdaitx> - no clear way to prevent it from happening (that I can see)
16:06 <tdaitx> - custom rule (similar to gcc) would work, but feels dirty and does not scale
16:06 <ubottu> bug 1903929 in britney "openjdk-8 uploads trigger swi-prolog, fdroidserver, and libreoffice autopkgtests unnecessarily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903929
16:06 <tdaitx> - unclear if ignoring alt-deps wouldn't cause unexpected problems
16:06 <tdaitx> - kinda feels like autopkgtest policy could have for its own hook/policies
16:06 <tdaitx> - pinged Laney about it
16:06 <tdaitx> - not a priority, but wanted to get the discussion and inputs going
16:06 <tdaitx> * started upstream discussion on how to get jtdiff to accept report files not necessarily named 'summary.txt' (as in the current hardcoded check)
16:06 <tdaitx> * adding better support for lxd in jck scripts (remotes, project)
16:06 <tdaitx> - improving resilience: too many places where it can get stuck and unresponsive
16:06 <tdaitx> (done)
16:06 <bdmurray> WaVeR:
16:06 <bdmurray> oops
16:06 <bdmurray> waveform:
16:07 <waveform> * Worked on u-boot SRU (LP: #1903054)
16:07 <waveform> * Worked on flash-kernel merge (LP: #1904890)
16:07 <waveform> * Investigated multi-kernel setup for f-k
16:07 <waveform> * Worked on bluez patch upstreaming (LP: #1903048)
16:07 <waveform> * Core 20 boot meetings
16:07 <waveform> (done)
16:07 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1903054 in u-boot (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] Please merge u-boot 2020.10+dfsg-1 from Debian unstable" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903054
16:07 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1904890 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "Please merge flash-kernel 3.103 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1904890
16:07 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1903048 in bluez (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[SRU] Bluetooth won't activate on the pi 400" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903048
16:07 <bdmurray> any questions on status?
16:08 <bdmurray> #topic Release Incoming Bugs
16:08 <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
16:09 <bdmurray> bug 1903849 is in progress
16:09 <ubottu> bug 1903849 in vim (Ubuntu) "vim ftbfs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903849
16:09 <bdmurray> bug 1901043
16:09 <ubottu> bug 1901043 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No sound in ubiquity-dm with nomodeset" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901043
16:10 <xnox> ew
16:10 <sil2100> This one?
16:10 <sil2100> We still didn't take it?
16:10 <sil2100> I thought we did
16:11 <bdmurray> No, we haven't taken it yet
16:11 <bdmurray> Would it be good for 20.04.2?
16:12 <bdmurray> Well, I guess we should see if it is broken in 20.04.2 first
16:12 <bdmurray> er 20.04.1
16:12 <xnox> hm, yeah i don't think we check if it's broken in focal dailies.
16:12 <xnox> it is broken in groovy
16:12 <bdmurray> So let's take that for investigation
16:12 <sil2100> +1
16:12 <bdmurray> bug 1900668
16:12 <ubottu> bug 1900668 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "MAAS PXE Boot stalls with grub 2.02 " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900668
16:13 <juliank> 2.9/candidate is said to work all the time
16:13 <juliank> maas that is
16:13 <juliank> is what #13 says
16:13 <bdmurray> Given that it's being investigated let's card it.
16:13 <juliank> but yeah
16:14 <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
16:14 <bdmurray> doko is there any update on bug 1890435?
16:14 <ubottu> bug 1890435 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "gcc-10 breaks on armhf (flaky): internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890435
16:15 <bdmurray> Christian has added some more info
16:15 <doko> <doko> - started bisecting our armhf compiler problem
16:15 <bdmurray> ah, great
16:16 <bdmurray> bug 1871538 is tagged champagne but we still don't have enough
16:16 <ubottu> bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871538
16:16 <bdmurray> have enough something somethin
16:16 <bdmurray> So perhaps we should untag it?
16:17 <rbalint> +1
16:18 <bdmurray> okay
16:18 <slyon> +1, has been sitting too long without activity..
16:18 <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
16:18 <bdmurray> bug 1900390 has already been carded
16:18 <ubottu> bug 1900390 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "do-release-update hangs from use of user $PATH (specifically 'npm which')" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900390
16:18 <bdmurray> so that's that for bugs
16:18 <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
16:19 <bdmurray> vorlon:
16:19 <vorlon> [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
16:20 <juliank> 147 packages needing attention, 12 packages not yet considered late
16:20 <juliank> yikes
16:20 <vorlon> there's a ton of perl-related stuff which I'll ignore for now
16:20 <xnox> well
16:20 <xnox> i thought i did lots of micro transitions that are now entagled with perl.
16:20 <vorlon> boost1.71 waiting on an autopkgtest - I'll take a look at this, might just need a requeue
16:20 <vorlon> dbus-python, who wants this?
16:20 <xnox> do we have anybody actively looking into pushing perl doom. or are there any entanglements that we can assign and/or fix to help perl?
16:21 <rbalint> me
16:21 <doko> ocaml is disentangled, see #u-r
16:21 <rbalint> perl is promising, many retries are pending
16:21 <vorlon> which AIUI only lets ocaml go first
16:22 <doko> yes
16:22 <vorlon> but let's go through these packages in order, shall we?  any volunteers for dbus-python?
16:22 <doko> waiting ...
16:22 <rbalint> the pending ppc64el tests are holding perl back
16:22 <bdmurray> I'll take dbus-python
16:22 <vorlon> bdmurray: thanks
16:23 <vorlon> libcgi-pm-perl appears to be blocked for reasons unrelated to perl itself
16:23 <vorlon> rbalint: can you take libcgi-pm-perl?
16:23 <rbalint> yes
16:23 <vorlon> thanks
16:23 <vorlon> ncurses: I'll have a look
16:24 <vorlon> netbase: mercurial, which is pretty flaky; I'll take this one too
16:24 <vorlon> openssh vs sshuttle: slyon could you have a look?
16:24 <slyon> yes
16:24 <slyon> and maybe also pycurl, as I've done curl before..
16:24 <vorlon> slyon: ok, it's yours
16:24 <vorlon> pygments: sil2100?
16:25 <waveform> I can take pygments
16:25 <vorlon> python-debian: xnox?
16:25 <tdaitx> bdmurray: vorlon: I had dbus-python and netbase on a card already
16:25 <sil2100> vorlon: sure o/
16:25 <xnox> vorlon:  ok.
16:25 <vorlon> tdaitx: oh? did we assign these in a previous meeting?
16:25 <tdaitx> yes, we did
16:25 <sil2100> Oh
16:25 <bdmurray> vorlon, sylon: I had openssh last week so will finish that
16:25 <sil2100> waveform took it, so nvm!
16:25 <slyon> bdmurray: ok!
16:25 <vorlon> was it a meeting I wasn't at?
16:25 <vorlon> :)
16:27 <vorlon> ok we'll keep the previous assignments
16:27 <vorlon> dbus-python: tdaitx
16:28 <vorlon> libcgi-pm-perl: rbalint
16:28 <vorlon> ncurses: me
16:28 <vorlon> netbase: tdaitx
16:28 <vorlon> openssh: bdmurray
16:29 <vorlon> pycurl: slyon
16:29 <vorlon> pygments: waveform
16:29 <vorlon> python-debian: xnox
16:30 <vorlon> pyyaml: sil2100?
16:30 <vorlon> setuptools: juliank?
16:30 <sil2100> o/
16:31 <juliank> vorlon: I'd rather fix the python-apt regressions
16:31 <vorlon> juliank: mmk
16:31 <vorlon> setuptools: doko?
16:31 <doko> juliank: and software-properties?
16:31 <doko> yes, although this is all unrelated
16:31 <juliank> doko: Yes, python-apt regresses software-properties
16:31 <juliank> it needs to work at the end or it's not useful :)
16:32 <juliank> note that 0.99.4 was triggered with software-properties/0.99.4 ubuntu-drivers-common/1:0.8.6.2 pyqt5/5.15.1+dfsg-2build1 dbus-python/1.2.16-4 pycurl/7.43.0.6-4 setuptools/50.3.0-1
16:32 <vorlon> gdb: bdmurray: do you want to look at this?
16:32 <vorlon> (blocked by an apport autopkgtest regression)
16:33 <vorlon> software-properties: juliank, per above
16:33 <bdmurray> I thought I fixed that
16:33 <vorlon> cdebconf: my upload, I'll take it
16:34 <vorlon> bdmurray: then it should be easy for you to follow through :)
16:34 <bdmurray> aw snap!
16:34 <vorlon> git: also my upload, I'll take it
16:34 <vorlon> python-apt is juliank
16:34 <vorlon> python3-stdlib-extensions: waveform?
16:34 <doko> sshuttle, slyon?
16:34 <waveform> vorlon, ok
16:35 <tdaitx> I saw bdmurray retring sshuttle
16:35 <bdmurray> yeah, it looks like a timeout
16:35 <slyon> I can take sshuttle
16:35 <vorlon> slyon: so you'll take python3-stdlib-extensions and its other autopkgtest regression? (assimp)
16:36 <slyon> yes
16:36 <vorlon> then there's a texinfo mess regressing tests on i386
16:36 <vorlon> who wants this?
16:36 <tdaitx> slyon: there are some retries already on the queue for sshuttle
16:36 <doko> vorlon: you, i386 expert?
16:36 <doko> E: Could not configure 'libc6:i386'.
16:36 <doko> W: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
16:36 <doko> E: Failed to process build dependencies
16:36 <vorlon> waveform: you can have texinfo since no one else volunteered :)
16:37 <waveform> vorlon, joy :))
16:37 <vorlon> waveform: (hit me up if you want help analyzing it)
16:37 <vorlon> and I think we can probably stop there on the assignments; hopefully next week we'll be caught up and can get through the remaining backlog
16:37 <vorlon> "next week", given that US is out next Thursday
16:38 <vorlon> bdmurray: back to you
16:39 <bdmurray> #topic AOB
16:39 <bdmurray> So as Steve mentioned next Thursday is a US holiday
16:39 <bdmurray> I'm guessing some people are taking next Friday off too
16:39 <juliank> I'm on +1 maintenance next Wed/Thu
16:39 <xnox> datacentre move over the weekend
16:41 <bdmurray> anything else?
16:42 <xnox> boom
16:42 <bdmurray> okay, thanks everybody
16:42 <xnox> mic drop
16:42 <bdmurray> #endmeeting