15:01 <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
15:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Oct  1 15:01:14 2020 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:01 <bdmurray> #topic Lightning Round
15:01 <bdmurray> cho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform slyon)
15:02 <bdmurray> mwhudson slyon xnox doko sil2100 infinity juliank waveform tdaitx vorlon rbalint bdmurray
15:02 <bdmurray> slyon:
15:02 <slyon> - 360 review training
15:02 <slyon> - Learned how to build *-signed packages for secure boot
15:02 <slyon> - submitted netplan talk for OVScon in Dec
15:02 <slyon> - looked into dbus issue, bug #1871538, red herring
15:02 <slyon> - prepared s390-tools[-signed] SRUs
15:02 <slyon> * bug #1888231, bug #1892350, bug #1893027
15:02 <slyon> === Netplan ===
15:02 <ubottu> bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871538
15:02 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1888231 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1888231). The error has been logged
15:02 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1892350 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892350). The error has been logged
15:02 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1893027 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1893027). The error has been logged
15:02 <slyon> - Reviewed NM plugin MP#391222
15:02 <slyon> - Finalized & merged netplan get/set CLI+DBus, PR#163
15:02 <slyon> * Prepared "tech-preview" packages in PPA for other teams
15:02 <slyon> - Re-worked 0.100 Focal SRU, to improve riscv64 test coverage
15:02 <slyon> * missing openvswitch build on Focal/riscv64
15:02 <slyon> * 0.100-0ubuntu4~20.04.2 currently pending in unapproved queue
15:02 <slyon> - Working on netplan try/cancel DBus for UC20, PR#134
15:02 <slyon> (done)
15:02 <bdmurray> xnox:
15:03 <xnox> hunting grub2 regressions
15:03 <xnox> working on adding Task field to finalrd
15:04 <xnox> done
15:04 <xnox> sponsored bunch of pi* things
15:04 <bdmurray> doko:
15:05 <bdmurray> how about sil2100 then
15:05 <sil2100> Ok!
15:05 <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases
15:05 <sil2100> - FFe reviews
15:05 <sil2100> - Queue reviews for groovy
15:05 <sil2100> - Groovy Beta:
15:05 <sil2100> * Prepared reminder and freeze announcement
15:05 <sil2100> * Froze the archive, generally did 'beta' stuff, created candidate images
15:05 <sil2100> * Going through bugs, checking severity, writing them down and putting on milestone
15:05 <sil2100> * Re-ran subiquity images after Paride noticed a networking-related problem during image build
15:05 <sil2100> * Prepublishing + preparing for publishing
15:05 <sil2100> * Started writing announcement
15:05 <sil2100> - Started validating ubuntu-image 1.10 SRU after getting it ACKed and accepted
15:05 <sil2100> - Reviewed another big netplan PR from Lukas, this time regarding get/set functionality
15:05 <sil2100> - Work on getting in some toolchain-related SRUs (cvise etc.)
15:05 <sil2100> - Interviews
15:05 <sil2100> - Prepared and released the first batch of langpacks for groovy
15:05 <sil2100> - A bit of work on the roadmap
15:05 <sil2100> - Re-sponsoring netplan 0.100 SRU for focal after initial rejection
15:05 <sil2100> - Sponsoring a few other packages for various people
15:05 <sil2100> (done)
15:06 <sil2100> Oh!
15:06 <sil2100> Forgot:
15:06 <bdmurray> julian is out
15:06 <bdmurray> waveform:
15:06 <sil2100> - Merged Brian's ubuntu-image changes (first contribution!)
15:06 <waveform> * Fixed FTBFS on python-apt (https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/python-apt/-/merge_requests/51)
15:06 <waveform> * Working on FTBFS for numpy (partly https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/16883 plus a ton of broken refs in the docs)
15:06 <waveform> * Working on removal of all cronjobs from update-notifier (LP: #1836475)
15:06 <waveform> * MIR for pi-bluetooth (LP: #1897920)
15:06 <sil2100> (done)
15:06 <waveform> * Attempting to debug customer case on Core18 (failed to reproduce with base image; attempting to build custom image)
15:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1836475 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Groovy) "update-notifier-common weekly cron job runs at the same time for all computers across the globe" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1836475
15:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1897920 in pi-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pi-bluetooth" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897920
15:06 <waveform> * Onboarding meetings
15:06 <waveform> * Tested "more new stuff"
15:06 <waveform> (done)
15:06 <tdaitx> * reviewed openjdk and ubuntu timelines
15:06 <tdaitx> * packaging openjdk 11.0.9+10 and 8u272-b09
15:06 <tdaitx> * fixed apport-hook for openjdk 11
15:06 <tdaitx> * sru verification for bug 1887142
15:06 <tdaitx> * glossed over ftbfs list, will pick something tomorrow
15:06 <ubottu> bug 1887142 in pdfsam (Debian) "pdfsam won't run, has missing and conflicting dependencies" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887142
15:06 <tdaitx> Other:
15:06 <tdaitx> * playing around pulseaudio profiles at night to separate hdmi/analog outputs and with echo and noise cancelling modules
15:06 <tdaitx> (done)
15:06 <bdmurray> vorlon:
15:07 <bdmurray> rbalint:
15:08 <bdmurray> okay, I'll go!
15:08 <rbalint> ah, a sec
15:08 <bdmurray> okay
15:08 <bdmurray> standing by
15:09 <rbalint> * +1 maintenance
15:10 <rbalint> * partner work
15:10 <rbalint> * trying to fix LP: #1871268, maybe it works out now
15:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1871268 in glibc (Ubuntu Focal) "Installation fails with Could not configure 'libc6:i386'. , E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871268
15:10 <rbalint> (done)
15:10 <bdmurray> uploaded a focal SRU of the fix for LP: #1886534, LP: #1895865
15:10 <bdmurray> discussed LP: #1894919 with sil2100 then v-failed it
15:10 <bdmurray> added /etc to the contents_mapping file for retracers
15:10 <bdmurray> tested and verified it in staging, deployed in production
15:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1886534 in update-motd (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] This message is shown once once a day." [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1886534
15:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1895865 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py:PermissionError:/usr/share/apport/dump_acpi_tables.py@59:dump_acpi_tables:dump_acpi_table" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1895865
15:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1894919 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "gnome-software-plugin-snap consider an unwanted removal for 20.04 ubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1894919
15:10 <bdmurray> sponsored the props change for LP: #1886112
15:10 <bdmurray> sponsored u-r-u changes for LP: #1893717, LP: #1897778
15:10 <bdmurray> uploaded an apport to change to help with LP: #1891657
15:10 <bdmurray> further troubleshooting of the above issue as its not completely fixed
15:10 <bdmurray> emailed ubuntu-devel re PathExists trigger changes
15:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1886112 in procps (Ubuntu Groovy) "Enabling DMESG_RESTRICT in Groovy Onward" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1886112
15:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1893717 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "Add Ubuntu Advantage service apt urls to valid mirrors" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1893717
15:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1897778 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "DistUpgradeController to release apt lock during PostInstallScripts" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897778
15:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1891657 in systemd (Ubuntu Groovy) "systemd 100% cpu usage apport-autoreport.service: Failed with result 'start-limit-hit'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891657
15:10 <bdmurray> review of upgrade failure issues
15:11 <bdmurray> doko, vorlon ?
15:11 <bdmurray> in the meantime any questions on status?
15:11 <sil2100> None here!
15:11 <bdmurray> okay lets move on
15:12 <bdmurray> #topic Release Incoming Bugs
15:12 <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:12 <bdmurray> bug 1890435
15:12 <ubottu> bug 1890435 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "gcc-10 breaks on armhf (flaky): internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890435
15:13 <xnox> doko:  any advice in that bug would be helpful! ^
15:13 <xnox> i know it is very vague
15:14 <xnox> however, there is gcc-10 in unapproved with a revert/bugfix for arm....
15:15 <doko> christian wanted to check if it's reproducible with older compiler versions. otoh, such bisecting is difficult with an unreliable reproducer
15:16 <bdmurray> given that it isn't very reproducible we'll hold off on taking it
15:18 <bdmurray> the dbus issue still doesn't have a reproducer
15:18 <bdmurray> the update-notifier cronjob is already being worked on
15:19 <bdmurray> bug 1897444
15:19 <ubottu> bug 1897444 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot find and translate the new Active Directory strings" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897444
15:19 <bdmurray> something about ubiquity translations being out of date?
15:21 <bdmurray> let's follow up with desktop about that
15:21 <sil2100> +1
15:21 <bdmurray> bug 1894792
15:21 <ubottu> bug 1894792 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Cannot assemble dirty degraded IMSM raid5 with --force." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1894792
15:22 <xnox> bdmurray:  we should take it
15:23 <bdmurray> mclemenceau: can you create a card for that
15:23 <bdmurray> bug 1897173 - sil2100 that was fixed with the new kernel correct?
15:23 <ubottu> bug 1897173 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "20.10 Installer crashes with partitions being written but unable to inform kernel of the change" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897173
15:24 <mclemenceau> you got it
15:25 <sil2100> Yep o/
15:25 <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:26 <bdmurray> I guess bug 1871268 is being worked on
15:26 <ubottu> bug 1871268 in glibc (Ubuntu Focal) "Installation fails with Could not configure 'libc6:i386'. , E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871268
15:26 <bdmurray> bug 1872159
15:26 <ubottu> bug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "booting with splash hangs when external monitors are connected" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872159
15:27 <bdmurray> I think this plymouth one is really for desktop
15:28 <bdmurray> bug 1896608
15:28 <ubottu> bug 1896608 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "[regression-in-stable] grub-multi-install fails with exit 1 when question grub-efi/install_devices_empty is skipped" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1896608
15:28 <xnox> mine
15:28 <bdmurray> cool
15:28 <sil2100> \o/
15:28 <sil2100> Michael will be happy
15:29 <bdmurray> Did we talk about bug 1888726 already?
15:29 <ubottu> bug 1888726 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "systemd-udevd regression: some renamed network interfaces stuck in "pending" state" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1888726
15:29 <slyon> we have a card for that
15:30 <bdmurray> well let's target it and remove the tags
15:30 <slyon> ack
15:30 <bdmurray> that's that then for bugs
15:30 <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
15:31 <vorlon> very short list, which is good at this point in the cycle
15:31 <bdmurray> procps was my upload so I guess that's on me
15:31 <vorlon> [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:31 <vorlon> rbalint: anything to say wrt google-compute-engine-oslogin + gce-compute-image-packages?
15:31 <rbalint> vorlon, i'm waiting for MIR team's response on google-guest-agent MIR
15:32 <rbalint> also lintian: https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/+merge/391464
15:32 <vorlon> yeah, which I've said I'm not keen on...
15:32 <vorlon> was anyone looking at the MIR side of the lintian unblock?
15:32 <rbalint> vorlon, is it a good time/place to discuss it further?
15:32 <vorlon> might as well
15:33 <vorlon> the problem with saying "we could support it even if it's not in main" is that things being in main is the way we track that it needs to have security support
15:33 <vorlon> so just demoting it, without some plan for keeping it on the security team's radar, isn't good for us
15:34 <rbalint> vorlon i guess this concern is mostly about devscripts
15:34 <doko> that's the same for a lot of build tools
15:34 <vorlon> devscripts isn't just build tools; they're tools run on developers' systems that interact with the network
15:34 <xnox> which we do not sru to keep working correctly
15:35 <vorlon> I wasn't aware they needed srus?
15:35 <rbalint> vorlon, both devscripts and lintian had security updates
15:35 <rbalint> vorlon, should i get security team's consent to support them in universe?
15:36 <vorlon> rbalint: that would be a prereq for demotion in my view, yes
15:36 <rbalint> vorlon, would that be sufficient for the demotion?
15:36 <vorlon> and in the meantime it might be quicker to just get the MIR done?
15:36 <doko> before it gets done, it has to be written ...
15:37 <rbalint> if the ack from security team would be sufficient than it may get done faster than the mirs
15:37 <vorlon> doko: can you remind us which ones needed a written MIR vs a perl fast-track?
15:37 <vorlon> rbalint: I am doubtful that they will give a quick ack :)
15:37 <doko> discount, which is not maintained by the perl group
15:37 <vorlon> because they would need to have process in place for tracking it before they could just commit to supporting
15:37 <rbalint> vorlon, maybe they surprise us :-)
15:42 <vorlon> ok, gobject-introspection look like it's only blocked by freeze
15:42 <bdmurray> okay, we've got a plan for lintian wha'ts next?
15:42 <vorlon> sil2100: will we unblock that post-beta?
15:42 <vorlon> and then procps was already mentioned by bdmurray, that's his
15:42 <sil2100> Yeah, we'll drop the freeze
15:43 <vorlon> so that's all
15:43 <sil2100> (on britney)
15:43 <xnox> i thought you keep freeze through to the release......
15:43 <sil2100> (queue freeze stays)
15:43 <xnox> i thought we did that before
15:43 <xnox> oh, ok.
15:43 <vorlon> and that's the list
15:43 <vorlon> bdmurray:
15:43 <bdmurray> #AOB
15:44 <bdmurray> #topic AOB
15:44 <sil2100> Beta being released today!
15:44 <bdmurray> While reviewing more release upgrade bugs I'm finding more duplicates of bug 1887544
15:44 <ubottu> bug 1887544 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 fails to calculate if python-pyqt5-dbg is installed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887544
15:44 <vorlon> \o/
15:45 <slyon> I will be out tomorrow..
15:45 <xnox> bdmurray:  and they are recent right? with latest/greatest release-upgrader?
15:45 <bdmurray> and my MP was frowned upon
15:45 <bdmurray> https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+git/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+merge/388513
15:45 <rbalint> i will be probably out on Monday and Tuesday
15:55 <rbalint> my fix is promising at https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+git/glibc/+merge/391704 so i may land a new glibc to groovy and focal
15:56 <bdmurray> one other thing I noticed when reviewing upgrade bugs is that ubuntu-release-upgrader recommends using ppa-purge to remove ppas
15:56 <bdmurray> I wonder if u-r-u should depend on ppa-purge
15:57 <bdmurray> Because somebody went searching for ppa-surge in software center and didn't find it.
15:59 <vorlon> it's currently in univere
15:59 <vorlon> s
15:59 <bdmurray> Yeah, that's true.
15:59 <vorlon> are we happy maintaining it?
16:00 <bdmurray> Given that we tell people to use it, we probably should be.
16:00 <vorlon> or stop recommending it :)
16:00 <vorlon> but yeah, worth investigating
16:01 <bdmurray> The alternative being to tell people to use --allow-third-party?
16:01 <bdmurray> alright, thanks everybody
16:01 <bdmurray> #endmeeting