14:30 <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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14:30 <cpaelzer> ping to ddstreet (excused today) doko_ didrocks999 jamespage sarnold
14:31 <sarnold> good morning
14:32 <cpaelzer> hi sarnold
14:32 <cpaelzer> let us get started and hope the others will join or already read
14:32 <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
14:33 <cpaelzer> I have had an action a few weeks ago that is partially resolved
14:33 <cpaelzer> I wanted to look into some of the germinate for some false-positives
14:33 <cpaelzer> ddstreet has taken one into a bug for probert back then
14:33 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/probert/+bug/1890301
14:33 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1890301 in probert (Ubuntu Groovy) "component mismatch with probert-network" [Low,Fix committed]
14:33 <cpaelzer> I ahve four updates to that
14:34 <cpaelzer> #1
14:34 <cpaelzer> The usual output of germinate was i386 only (very misleading)
14:34 <cpaelzer> #link  https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.groovy/_germinate_output
14:34 <cpaelzer> now this is running amd64 (thanks cjwatson)
14:34 <cpaelzer> #2
14:34 <cpaelzer> Furthermore the real truth is neither of these architectures, but the superset of all combined.
14:34 <cpaelzer> Thanks to Laney we now have the germinate log of all of them at:
14:34 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/extra-germinate-output
14:34 <cpaelzer> With that we finally could explain probert-network.
14:34 <cpaelzer> It had "probert-storage | probert" and the former isn't on i386
14:34 <cpaelzer> So it selected the latter, but at the same time - on i386 - there is no probert-network.
14:34 <cpaelzer> paride will fix up the seeds (thanks) for probert to have them do what we want
14:34 <cpaelzer> ddstreet: so the bug will be fixed soon and also is finally fully understood
14:34 <cpaelzer> and finally
14:34 <sarnold> oh nice!
14:34 <didrocks999> yeah, this all combined thing is always puzzling
14:34 <cpaelzer> #3
14:34 <cpaelzer> Germinate output was non reproducible
14:34 <cpaelzer> Also it did not include architecture on the log messages which was misleading
14:34 <cpaelzer> Once the following lands this will be good as well:
14:34 <cpaelzer> #link https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/germinate/+git/germinate/+merge/390466
14:35 <cpaelzer> so a few MPs to land and things will be even better
14:35 <cpaelzer> finally one bug I had to file which is in germinate
14:35 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/germinate/+bug/1895011
14:35 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1895011 in germinate (Ubuntu) "virtual-packages do not pick a seeded package (ordering dependent)" [Undecided,New]
14:35 <cpaelzer> that is what e.g. shows esmtp for now
14:35 <cpaelzer> overall major steps forward
14:35 <doko_> hi
14:35 <cpaelzer> just wanted to keep you updated on the progress we made
14:35 <cpaelzer> hi doko_
14:36 <cpaelzer> I don't remember other open action items (other than assigned reviews)
14:36 <cpaelzer> let us look at mismatches first as usual
14:36 <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
14:36 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
14:36 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
14:36 <didrocks999> there is still gnome-software, but we’ll give a seed fix a try for this beforehand
14:36 <cpaelzer> doko_: we have kept the lintian ->*perl* cases for you as usually you take them - would you this time as well?
14:37 <cpaelzer> thanks didrocks999 for an update on that one
14:37 <cpaelzer> esmtp I just mentioned to be a known fale positive
14:37 <doko_> that's a big effort keeping it open for a few weeks ;p
14:37 <cpaelzer> pi-bluetooth from raspi-common-seed - probably for waveform
14:37 <cpaelzer> hehe
14:38 <doko_> ok, will look at those
14:38 <cpaelzer> doko_: can you check with waveform in the foundations meeting what the plan on this one (pi-bluetooth) is and let us know next week?
14:38 <cpaelzer> the other two there have open MIRs we get to later
14:38 <doko_> ok
14:38 <cpaelzer> ipp, octavia, sqlalchemy, .. all known in progress
14:38 <cpaelzer> as is shim-canonical
14:39 <cpaelzer> didrocks: I guess you still couldn't agree with the kernel team for khronos-opencl?
14:39 <didrocks> cpaelzer: didn’t hear from the management, despite several pings…
14:39 <didrocks> kind of helpless, I’ll ping apw directly on this
14:39 <cpaelzer> ok
14:39 <cpaelzer> also google-guest is in mismatches-proposed that will be a topic later on when we talk about new&incomplete bugs
14:40 <cpaelzer> ok that was mismatches, no further assignments out of those
14:40 <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
14:40 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:40 <cpaelzer> Thee to assign people to
14:40 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/raspberrypi-userland/+bug/1895133
14:40 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1895133 in raspberrypi-userland (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libraspberrypi-bin libraspberrypi0" [Undecided,New]
14:41 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpi-eeprom/+bug/1895137
14:41 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1895137 in rpi-eeprom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rpi-eeprom" [Undecided,New]
14:41 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ostree/+bug/1892454
14:41 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1892454 in ostree (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libostree-1-1" [Medium,New]
14:41 <cpaelzer> didrocks: the latter you looked at already
14:41 <cpaelzer> that we set back to new and is from desktop'ish scope
14:41 <cpaelzer> would you look at that (again)?
14:41 <didrocks> cpaelzer: I pinged Robert to get the right team subscribed before looking at the MIR, the status was reverted without subcription :/
14:41 * didrocks will handle it
14:41 <cpaelzer> thanks
14:42 <cpaelzer> rpi-eeprom I'd take - eeproms are always messy in some way and will be interesting
14:42 <cpaelzer> raspberrypi-userland anyone?
14:42 <cpaelzer> ddstreet: isn't here today so he can't say yes/no but I know he has one assignment left of those last week
14:42 <cpaelzer> and will get to it once back
14:43 <cpaelzer> doko_: and me already got tasks today
14:43 <doko_> ok, I'll take it
14:43 <cpaelzer> I know sarnold got some security reviews for google-agent which is  a topic to come
14:43 <cpaelzer> ...
14:43 <cpaelzer> really, ok
14:43 <didrocks> I can have a look if you want
14:43 <cpaelzer> I was trying to force jamespage to say yes
14:43 <didrocks> ahah :)
14:43 <cpaelzer> doko_: is the winner this time
14:44 <cpaelzer> there will be more work didrocks :-)
14:44 <didrocks> noooooooooooooooooo
14:44 <didrocks> :)
14:44 <sarnold> there is *always* more work :)
14:44 <cpaelzer> doko_: I assigned you and me accordingly
14:44 <cpaelzer> true sarnold
14:44 <cpaelzer> ok that seems to be the new queue
14:44 <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
14:44 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:45 <cpaelzer> two big blocks
14:45 <cpaelzer> block #1 is
14:45 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/google-guest-agent/+bug/1891929
14:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1891929 in google-guest-agent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] google-guest-agent" [Undecided,Incomplete]
14:45 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-golang-x-oauth2/+bug/1894731
14:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1894731 in golang-google-protobuf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] golang-*, Go build dependencies of google-guest-agent" [Undecided,Incomplete]
14:45 <cpaelzer> first of all I really want to thank all of you for helping to churn through so many review tasks so quickly
14:46 <cpaelzer> didrocks: ddstreet: in particular - thanks
14:46 <cpaelzer> this case is now blocked on the following
14:46 <cpaelzer> 7 are done for MIR - 5 of those on security now
14:47 <cpaelzer> another 5 were parially reviewed but identified work for the foundations team and rbalint is aware of them
14:47 <cpaelzer> the decisions if/how to handle these might be anywhere from
14:47 <cpaelzer> a) cut down the current dependencies a bit
14:47 <cpaelzer> to
14:47 <cpaelzer> b) add another 20 tasks
14:47 <cpaelzer> to c) stop the MIR entirely
14:47 <didrocks> I think none of the 3 are tempting :p
14:48 <didrocks> also, I bet upstream is testing with different versions of those libs than the archive
14:48 <cpaelzer> we will close out the remaining assigned tasks which is 1x ddstreet
14:48 <cpaelzer> didrocks: I have brought up the concern of testing across a different set of versions in my reviews and in feedback to the future owners of this stack
14:49 <cpaelzer> we will not proactively burst through the other 20 packages unless rbalint / foundations asks us for it
14:49 <cpaelzer> so for now we wait on their feedback
14:49 <didrocks> agreed
14:49 <cpaelzer> but as I said rbalint is aware, but I wanted to make sure you are all as well
14:49 <didrocks> just for completleness, I think there is a d) (or you accounted that in a) ) which is vendoring
14:49 <cpaelzer> yes
14:49 <cpaelzer> the permanent go-curse
14:49 <didrocks> yep :)
14:50 <cpaelzer> second context to mention here is
14:50 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcsc-lite/+bug/1892559
14:50 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1892559 in pcsc-lite (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ccid libpam-pkcs1 libpcsc-perl opensc pcsc-tools pcsc-lite" [Undecided,Incomplete]
14:50 <cpaelzer> opened by sarnold
14:50 <cpaelzer> afaics security tries to reduce the number of required packages before going further - is that correct sarnold?
14:50 <rbalint> thank you all for the work already done on the MIRs around google-guest-agent
14:51 <cpaelzer> yw rbalint
14:51 <cpaelzer> rbalint: just to be sure - you are ok that we go back from panic-mode to wait-for-feedback-mode on this one right?
14:51 <sarnold> cpaelzer: I believe pcsc-tools and libpcsc-perl were removed, which helps quite a lot :)
14:51 <cpaelzer> yes they were
14:52 <cpaelzer> sarnold: pcsc-lite would need to be fulyl evaluated
14:52 <cpaelzer> sarnold: it was in main without actual inspection in the far past
14:52 <cpaelzer> I asked if you could take a look and if you agree add that properly
14:53 <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcsc-lite/+bug/1892559/comments/7 + https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcsc-lite/+bug/1892559/comments/9
14:53 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1892559 in pcsc-lite (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ccid libpam-pkcs1 libpcsc-perl opensc pcsc-tools pcsc-lite" [Undecided,Incomplete]
14:53 <cpaelzer> joy said you need it in comment #12
14:53 <cpaelzer> so I think we should add it properly
14:53 <sarnold> what does "add it properly" mean?
14:54 <cpaelzer> means: do the pre-checks as when filing a MIR task and if all looks sane set the task back to new
14:54 <sarnold> cpaelzer: aha! then I think I missed the 'set it back to new' then :)
14:54 <sarnold> cpaelzer: I added the prechceks to the description in comment #3
14:55 <cpaelzer> indeed
14:55 <cpaelzer> let us set it back then and I'll assign myself to get you going there
14:55 <sarnold> thanks
14:55 <cpaelzer> ok that is it on incompletes
14:55 <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
14:56 <cpaelzer> that already was a lot of content
14:56 <didrocks> that’s enough for me (FYI, ostree/libflatpak is definitively in the TODO list now for me)
14:56 <cpaelzer> but a) this is the phase of the cycle it always is and b) I'm happy to see that the MIR team seems to work effectively (looking back people didn't always have the impression)
14:56 <cpaelzer> yeah didrocks
14:57 <didrocks> thanks for coordinating this effectively cpaelzer :)
14:57 <sarnold> yes :)
14:57 <cpaelzer> ok it seems we all hav ework :-) see you next week then
14:57 <didrocks> see you!
14:57 <cpaelzer> #endmeeting