== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team, 20 Aug at 15:01 — 15:54 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-08-20-15.01.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Lightning rounds === The discussion about "Lightning rounds" started at 15:02. === Release incoming bugs === The discussion about "Release incoming bugs" started at 15:09. * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1875062 * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs * ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627564 === FTBFS with gcc-10 === The discussion about "FTBFS with gcc-10" started at 15:31. === Team proposed-migration report === The discussion about "Team proposed-migration report" started at 15:36. * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:48. == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * xnox (83) * bdmurray (60) * juliank (41) * vorlon (41) * ubottu (22) * cpaelzer (19) * sil2100 (19) * Laney (9) * waveform (9) * tdaitx (9) * mclemenceau (4) * meetingology (3) == Full Log == 15:01 #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team 15:01 Meeting started Thu Aug 20 15:01:44 2020 UTC. The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:01 15:01 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:02 #topic Lightning rounds 15:02 echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity mwhudson juliank waveform slyon) 15:02 mwhudson sil2100 bdmurray vorlon tdaitx doko waveform juliank infinity rbalint xnox slyon 15:02 sil2100: you win! 15:02 OH NO 15:02 Ok 15:03 - Was off on Monday 15:03 - SRU reviews and releases 15:03 - Kernel SRUs 15:03 - Last week: 18.04.5 and 16.04.7, UC18 15:03 - Building UC16 candidates, preparing appliance images for promotion 15:03 - Tweaks on the delivery system for gadget snaps 15:03 - Interviews 15:03 - Pi desktop-related discussions 15:03 - Eoan EOL 15:03 - Investigating UC18 kassel image issues, no luck so far 15:03 (done) 15:03 * juliank is near real-town Kassel 15:03 updated metarelease files for point releases 15:03 helped testing nodejs packages for -proposed migration 15:03 reported juju bug LP: #1891561 15:03 uploaded new upstream version of python-gmpy2 to Ubuntu and Debian 15:03 reviewed and merged fix for LP: #1611737 15:03 Launchpad bug 1891561 in juju "Openstack empty string filtering breaks Juju network selection" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891561 15:03 Launchpad bug 1611737 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "Can't upgrade from a release if ros packages are installed from ROS servers" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1611737 15:04 reported friendly-recovery bug LP: #1891952 15:04 sync'ed pycairo from debian to fix FTBFS issue 15:04 uploaded zope.interface fixing FTBFS 15:04 investigation into LP: #1798369 15:04 uploaded apt-clone fix for LP: #1858326 15:04 Launchpad bug 1891952 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved not started when networking enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891952 15:04 Launchpad bug 1798369 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Reinstall Ubuntu (with preserving existing data) shows error message due to "Could not get lock /target/var/cache/apt/archives/lock"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798369 15:04 Launchpad bug 1858326 in apt-clone (Ubuntu Focal) "apt-clone crashed with AttributeError in __main__: module 'lsb_release' has no attribute 'get_lsb_information'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1858326 15:04 updated cleanup-NBS-for-EOL for new britney output 15:04 Eoan EOL work 15:04 putting out fires 🔥 15:04 ✔ done 15:04 vorlon: 15:04 hmm move me to the end please 15:05 tdaitx: ? 15:05 - tested binaries and ran autopkgtest for xz-utils stuck in focal-proposed; rerun failed apt/armhf autopkgtest 15:05 - local setup for running jck snap in a lxc container 15:05 - reviewed need for remote agent as docs & config have ambiguous descriptions 15:05 - fixing scilab: rebuilding deps, backporting patches from groovy 15:05 (done) 15:05 620335 15:05 256388 15:06 bad yubikey 15:06 bug #256388 15:06 bug 256388 in python2.5 (Ubuntu) "strange recursion with help() on python" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/256388 15:06 bug #620335 15:06 bug 620335 in linux (Ubuntu) "xv video output not work on GeForce 6100 with nouveau driver" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620335 15:06 I think doko is off, so it's waveform's turn 15:06 waveform: ? 15:06 * Investigated eth dhcp issue on core20; unable to reproduce (LP: #1878640) 15:06 * Bluetooth testing on core (re LP: #1890817) 15:06 * Fixed EGL/GLES issue in pending userland package (LP: #1891613) 15:06 * Investigated lapack migration (unsuccessfully) 15:06 * ubuntu-image work for devices and pi image building 15:06 Launchpad bug 1878640 in netplan.io (Ubuntu Groovy) "uc20 image on pi often cannot get ip addr via eth0 on first boot of run mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1878640 15:06 Launchpad bug 1890817 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu Groovy) "Request to include pi-bluetooth in raspi images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890817 15:06 * pi-gadget work 15:06 Launchpad bug 1891613 in raspberrypi-userland (Ubuntu) "libraspberrypi0 not installable" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891613 15:06 * Testing USB boot modes on pi4 15:06 (done) 15:07 aug 20: 15:07 * sponsored python-gmpy2 NMU to Debian for bdmurray (debian bug 965001) 15:07 Debian bug 965001 in src:python-gmpy2 "strange version 2.1.0 beta4 fails tests with mpfr4 4.1.0" [Serious,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/965001 15:07 * grub bug triage 15:07 - booting 32-bit kernels on 64-bit UEFI is no-no 15:07 - a laptop that can't find our grub -> firmware broken, can't find nvme device 15:07 * SRUed grub to focal (not gonna list the bugs again) 15:07 * fixed memtest86+ in groovy, and SRUed to focal: Close FD 3 when invoking update-grub (LP: #1876506) 15:07 Launchpad bug 1876506 in os-prober (Ubuntu Focal) "eoan to focal upgrade hangs when lvm snapshot is present" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876506 15:07 * talked with Laney about OEM stuff 15:07 (done) 15:08 rbalint is out 15:08 xnox: 15:08 progressing with needrestart work on cloud/server 15:08 microcode-initrd source-new accepted! hooray, now waiting for bin-new 15:09 started libffi 8.1.0 abi snapshot builds in bileto ppa with cet enabled 15:09 uploaded secureboot-db into unapproved for all the series 15:09 followed up on tlp MIR 15:09 progressing with safer grub-install with built-in rollbacks 15:09 positive test feedback for finalrd for core16 (needs finalrd backports) 15:09 done 15:09 lucas is out 15:09 #topic Release incoming bugs 15:09 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:10 oh ok I won't give my status then, it was boring anyway ;) 15:10 that's your perogative 15:10 bug 1891952 15:10 bug 1891952 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved not started when networking enabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891952 15:11 I ran into this when my laptop wouldn't boot with the new systemd 15:11 Well I couldn't get an x-session 15:12 I should retest this with the old systemd so will 15:13 I will card this 15:13 bug 1892040 15:13 bug 1892040 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Focal) "US keyboard layout even if a non english language is selected in ubiquity-dm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892040 15:13 Is this a duplicate of the card we took the other day? 15:14 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1875062 15:14 L? 15:14 Launchpad bug 1875062 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Focal) "[20.04] Keyboard layout not enabled immediately during installation when typing username/password" [High,Triaged] 15:14 ? 15:15 That's the one of which I'm thinking 15:15 mclemenceau: hi I made it out of the other calls - if I might interrupt in which section do I want to talk about mine? 15:16 it's coming soon cpaelzer 15:16 well let's card this and comment in the existing card about this bug 15:17 ok carded! 15:18 bug 1891623 15:18 bug 1891623 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "Can't build Libreoffice with gcc-10, always ends with a Segmentation Fault in the build or resulting binaries" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891623 15:18 I guess we should take this 15:19 Heather's trying to reproduce 15:20 Okay so can we let it wait Laney? 15:20 would be good if d_oko or whoever and Heather could work together 15:20 d_oko is out for a while 15:20 ah ok 15:20 Laney: yeah, ideally we'd want preprocessed source of a "small" binary (if there is any), the binary, and the coredump / traceback? 15:20 I know 15:20 but the first step is reproducing it at all 15:20 and yes d o k o is out for 2 weeks =/ 15:20 come back to it next week 15:20 Will do thanks 15:20 Okay cpaelzer its your turn 15:21 hehe 15:21 thanks 15:21 I tagged this one this morning bug 1892358 not showing on the report yet 15:21 bug 1892358 in systemd (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest success rate dropped inhibiting proposed migration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1892358 15:21 I was this morning trying to catch rbalint for systemd autopkgtest fail-rate 15:21 but learned that he's unavailable atm 15:21 thanks mclemenceau for the bug 15:22 I only wnated to ask if someone here could take a look so that we have a second opinion 15:22 cpaelzer: that looks like a normal / good pass rate 15:22 i mean, it used to be way worse 15:22 xnox: 10/10 last tests failed 15:22 if that is normal I maybe should change expectations :-) 15:22 I just want to avoid retrying on aveagre ~20 times per test per arch 15:23 at one point i spent more than a year with migrating systemd based on a superset of multiple test runs. 15:23 i.e. there tests passed in this run, that test pasted in that run, and that one i will try to fix next time. 15:23 and next time something else regressed. 15:23 i agree with the sentiment. 15:23 yeah, but for now in groovy we have to do something 15:23 "tests-in-lxd" and "systemd-fsckd" droped below an acceptable rate 15:23 however we just landed new upstream release, and it usually does regress a lot. 15:24 I remember xnox last time you worked on itit was fsckd as well and boot-smoke or something like that 15:24 fsckd one is being fixed in bileto already, that was assigned and was worked last week / this week. 15:24 xnox: yes 246 seems to have made it worse 15:24 lxd => is related to snapd & networkd regressions that are being fixed in snapd 15:24 so there are things that are known and worked on too. 15:24 fsckd of the last three days are all bad, does this fix need to land first? 15:25 do you have a bug on the snapd/network bug I could track? 15:25 g 15:25 * juliank typo 15:25 initially all I asked was "are these knowns and are there bugs I could track" to if you know them let me know the urls 15:25 cpaelzer: please stand by whilst i try to find those two fixes 15:26 cpaelzer: if xnox gives you bugs / something to watch will you be happy? 15:26 cpaelzer: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3801 has fixes for fsckd & networkd 15:27 cpaelzer: see https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_39a8dbb93caf4ec889f8a1b7f69885db/bileto-3801/2020-08-20_11:08:36/groovy_systemd_packaging_changes.diff 15:27 which should improve/fix/resolve the lxd & fsckd tests. 15:27 bug 1886886 15:27 bug 1886886 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Plymouth 0.9.5 release" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1886886 15:27 and 15:27 bdmurray: for now yes, if this takes too long we all will want some interim fixes - but for now I'm fine 15:27 bug 1891716 15:27 bug 1891716 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Networking broken after systemd update" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891716 15:28 cpaelzer: okay, then we will move on and leave your bug open for next week 15:28 cpaelzer: i mean i could tag them "update-excuse" but that will not make them pop up on the test results of reverse deps? 15:28 thanks bdmurray and xnox 15:28 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:29 bug 1891641 15:29 bug 1891641 in debconf (Ubuntu) "package unattended-upgrades 2.3ubuntu0.1 failed to install/upgrade: installed unattended-upgrades package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891641 15:29 duplicate 15:29 * juliank searches bug 15:30 https://launchpad.net/bugs/1627564 15:30 Launchpad bug 1627564 in Ubuntu "Debconf crash due to assertion failure in ensure_surface_for_gicon [gtkiconhelper.c:493] (when png loader is missing/during upgrades)" [High,Confirmed] 15:31 that's that for FF then 15:31 so next 15:31 #topic FTBFS with gcc-10 15:31 re FTBFS bugs in GG 15:31 klibc 2.0.7-1ubuntu5 ✓ i386 (F) → Log amd64 (F) → Log armhf (F) → Log arm64 (F) → Log ppc64el (F) → Log s390x (F) → Log PTS BTS doko N 15:31 hfsplus 1.0.4-15 ✓ amd64 (F) → Log armhf (F) → Log arm64 (F) → Log ppc64el (F) → Log s390x (F) → Log PTS BTS juliank N 15:31 nfs-utils 1:1.3.4-2.5ubuntu5 ✓ amd64 (F) → Log armhf (F) → Log arm64 (F) → Log ppc64el (F) → Log s390x (F) → Log PTS BTS juliank N 15:31 golang-1.13 1.13.8-1ubuntu1 ✓ arm64 (F) → Log PTS BTS mwhudson RM 15:31 golang-1.14 1.14.4-1ubuntu2 ✓ arm64 (F) → Log PTS BTS mwhudson N 15:32 syslinux-legacy 2:3.63+dfsg-2ubuntu9 ✓ amd64 (F) → Log PTS BTS mwhudson RM 15:32 glibc 2.31-0ubuntu10 ✓ armhf (F) → Log arm64 (F) → Log 1714514 1571684 PTS BTS rbalint N 15:32 logrotate 3.14.0-4ubuntu4 ✓ amd64 (F) → Log armhf (F) → Log arm64 (F) → Log ppc64el (F) → Log s390x (F) → Log PTS BTS rbalint N 15:32 pexpect 4.6.0-3 ✓ amd64 (F) → Log 1891193 PTS BTS slyon N 15:32 efivar 37-2ubuntu4 ✓ amd64 (F) → Log armhf (F) → Log arm64 (F) → Log PTS BTS tdaitx N 15:32 pyparted 3.11.2-11.1build1 ✓ amd64 (F) → Log armhf (F) → Log arm64 (F) → Log ppc64el (F) → Log s390x (F) → Log PTS BTS tdaitx N 15:32 lapack 3.9.0-2 ✓ ppc64el (F) → Log 1708735 PTS BTS xnox N 15:32 netkit-ftp 0.17-34.1build1 ✓ amd64 (F) → Log armhf (F) → Log arm64 (F) → Log ppc64el (F) → Log s390x (F) → Log PTS BTS xnox N 15:32 make it staaaaahp 15:32 db5.3 5.3.28+dfsg1-0.6ubuntu2 ✓ i386 (F) → Log amd64 (F) → Log armhf (F) → Log arm64 (F) → Log ppc64el (F) → Log s390x (F) → Log PTS BTS xnox N 15:32 not what i wanted! 15:32 klibc 15:32 hfsplus 15:32 nfs-utils 15:32 golang-1.13 15:32 golang-1.14 15:32 syslinux-legacy 15:32 glibc 15:32 logrotate 15:32 pexpect 15:32 efivar 15:32 pyparted 15:32 lapack 15:32 netkit-ftp 15:32 db5.3 15:32 are still to do 15:33 libstd was fixed on debian, already synced to groovy 15:33 I have a backport for a gcc-10 for pyparted 15:33 have a broad look at efivar 15:34 tdaitx: tah 15:35 and we have assignees to fix those, please do that. 15:35 bdmurray: next?! 15:35 Are there people that need to hand things off given schedules next week? 15:35 i don't know! 15:35 I'm 50% gone 15:35 juliank: you have 15:35 hfsplus 15:35 nfs-utils 15:35 It sounds ok, I suppose 15:35 we'll see 15:35 :) 15:36 okay moving on 15:36 #topic Team proposed-migration report 15:36 [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs 15:36 looking much better this week :) 15:37 lapack, blocked by an autopkgtest on a revdep 15:37 sil2100: would you like this? 15:37 Sure! 15:37 google-compute-engine-oslogin is rbalint's 15:37 I've got lapack at the mo 15:37 ...then I guess not! 15:38 ;) 15:38 but there is also lapack ftbfs 15:38 oh was this carry-over? 15:38 so it's all three of us? 15:38 waveform: continue working on it then, thanks o/ 15:38 sil2100: you're off the hook 15:38 * sil2100 won for the second time today 15:39 pam is mine because assigned to me for ftbfs, but I'm not messing with the autopkgtests on the current version in -proposed because I'm prepping a new upstream version for Debian 15:39 dnspython: sil2100: you can have this one 15:40 gdbm: autopkgtest failure on i386, this one's never been investigated since we made i386 compat-only 15:40 would anyone like to take a look at this or is it going to default to me like all the i386 stuff? :) 15:40 oh I uploaded it 15:40 so it defaults to me anyway ;) 15:40 i was gonna say..... 15:41 vorlon: okay! 15:41 ok gdbm is mine 15:41 sensible-utils: bdmurray? 15:41 on slyon? the sync was his request to fix ftbfs 15:41 plymouth vs systemd, rbalint already has a fixed staged for that AIUI 15:41 inconceivable! 15:41 xnox: which one? 15:41 autodep8 was mine, but i am failing to comprehend why ti's failing. 15:41 vorlon: slon => sensible-utils 15:42 ok, sensible-utils to slyon, not bdmurray 15:42 xnox: do you want to keep it or hand it off? 15:42 so i want to give up autodep8 to someone else please 15:42 autodep8: bdmurray? 15:42 okay 15:42 libgitlab-api-v4-perl: tdaitx? 15:43 ok 15:43 (that's a merge of bash-completion FWIW) 15:43 lintian: juliank? 15:43 (libgitlab-api-v4-perl) 15:43 yeah 15:43 I need to talk to lintian folks about that anyway 15:43 dput: xnox? 15:43 it also fails in normal lxd containers 15:43 ok 15:43 actually 15:44 that's really setuptools 15:44 xnox: you ok to take setuptools? 15:44 i thought +1 was bootstrapping lintian to be fair 15:44 vorlon: sure 15:44 sqlite3 15:44 dput is .. just a timeout 15:44 I am bootstrapping lintian, I am not dealing with the autopkgtest failure or the component-mismatch atm 15:44 ah, ok, thanks. 15:44 (in some cleanup hook) 15:45 juliank: ok if lintian is no work for you because Laney, can you take sqlite3? 15:45 noooo, please keep the autopkgtest at least :p 15:45 oh :) 15:45 then who wants sqlite3? 15:45 I think everyone's been assigned one 15:45 so who's hungry for seconds 15:45 So lintian is fine, but sqlite3 is that a gcc-10 bug? 15:45 (the MIR you can reply to my question in #-release to determine if there's work required) 15:45 /tmp/autopkgtest.4tqIue/build.vxn/src/debian/tests/run-unit-tests: line 29: 1275 Illegal instruction (core dumped) hyphy "$i" 15:46 hyphy is a pile of code that is fragile, it could be hyphy buggy too 15:47 move on? 15:47 and that's the list 15:47 bdmurray: 15:48 #topic AOB 15:48 I'm mornings-mostly next week 15:48 And DebConfing 15:48 I don't how distracting DebConf online will be 15:48 and LinuxPlumbers 15:48 So bug 1798369 I've heard some comments that we should get rid of this and I'd like some reasons 15:48 bug 1798369 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Reinstall Ubuntu (with preserving existing data) shows error message due to "Could not get lock /target/var/cache/apt/archives/lock"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798369 15:49 There are bugs every release cycle about it and nobody really gives it much testing 15:50 which it though? The restore packages option or the whole reinstall option? 15:51 restore packages 15:51 I want to keep $HOME, but not try to reinstall packages that were installed 15:51 so, restoring packages indeed doesn't quite make sense 15:52 maybe save an apt-clone tarball in /var/log 15:52 restoring snaps might, but i don't know if we preserve /var/lib/snapd 15:52 hey let's not make new features! 15:53 Okay, I'll discuss with the desktop team about removing the restore packages option. 15:54 anything else? 15:54 okay, thanks everybody 15:54 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)