15:08 #startmeeting DMB meeting 15:08 Meeting started Mon Jun 1 15:08:08 2020 UTC. The chair is ddstreet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:08 15:08 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:08 #chair ddstreet 15:08 Current chairs: ddstreet 15:09 #topic Review of previous action items 15:09 tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (carried over) 15:09 teward: around? 15:09 i assume this continues to be carried over? we could change it to (will be carried until mentioned) if so 15:10 hey headbashing atm 15:10 here but i am playing catchup on 2 things 15:10 :) 15:11 tsimonq2 should we carry that item over until mentioned in a future mtg? 15:12 ddstreet: Sure. 15:12 ack thnx 15:12 Before that happens... 15:12 #action tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (will be carried until mentioned) 15:12 * meetingology tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (will be carried until mentioned) 15:12 I'd like to mention I have something started. 15:12 ah ok sorry 15:12 There are some Lubuntuisms in there, but it's the base for what I'm going to write. 15:12 It's all good, it's not fully done yet. 15:13 https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/lubuntu-dev/ 15:13 That's actually based off of the Kubuntu Developers page. 15:14 Anyway, I thought I'd mention it. We can move on from her.e 15:15 thanks, looks good! 15:15 ok next item 15:15 teward follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) 15:15 still haven't had a chance to, anyone else on the DMB want to take it? 15:16 (one of the billion things that I think I handed to ddstreet I thought) 15:16 yep i can take this, unless anyone else wants to grab it 15:16 #action ddstreet follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) 15:16 * meetingology ddstreet follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) 15:16 (FWIW: lots of IT Security issues in my main job so that has hampered my efforts on things) 15:17 rafaeldtinoco i'm going to defer your items until the end of the list if that's ok with you, try to keep actions grouped by owner 15:17 es 15:17 its a good practice 15:17 teward to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future 15:17 teward i looked at this a bit, i don't think it's done yet right? 15:18 If someone has any action items that they'd like to pass to someone else, feel free to assign me then 15:18 no it's not, I think we need to JFDI. 15:18 my main q was if we are dropping edubuntu just for groovy and later, or for focal and earlier too? 15:18 ddstreet: i think that was a separate discussion 15:18 because that task was specifically getting the PPU rights applied 15:18 we have yet to have a full discussion over the edubuntu packageset removal 15:18 ok so just to be safe we should ask for PPU rights for all releases for him then 15:18 correct. 15:18 ack, i can do this, i was already looking at it earlier today 15:19 #action ddstreet to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future 15:19 * meetingology ddstreet to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future 15:19 teward to apply permissions changes for oSoMoN to mozilla packageset and send out announcement (rolled over) 15:19 teward this is done, just needs the announcement sent out; i can do that 15:19 yep 15:20 #action ddstreet send out announcement for oSoMoN addition to mozilla packageset (rolled over) 15:20 * meetingology ddstreet send out announcement for oSoMoN addition to mozilla packageset (rolled over) 15:20 teward to handle Erich Eickmeyer permissions changes for access to Ubuntu Studio packageset and send out announcement (half-done, rolled over) 15:20 this is done 15:20 sil2100 to add kanashiro coredev permissions and send announcement 15:20 i think you did that right sil2100? 15:20 Yes, this is done 15:21 ok we're on to rafaeldtinoco items :) 15:21 rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) 15:21 I did process some minor packageset additions for Erich over the past few weeks. 15:21 calamares-settings-ubuntu comes to mind. ;) 15:21 ddstreet: Ill have PTO on wednesday and will work all my items during my PTO basically. 15:21 so the gnome-shell item was discussed broadly 15:22 in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001501.html 15:22 and Im considering to be together with "refresh packagesets" 15:23 and, like tsimonq2 said, we are doing all packageset changes additions/removals by hand here and ther 15:23 but we still need the full refresh 15:23 so should we carry over all items for you then? 15:23 nope 15:23 or are some already done, by hand 15:23 there were 2 you did 15:23 i did? ;-) 15:23 yaru-theme 15:23 and fprintf 15:23 for ubuntu-desktop 15:23 didnt u ? 15:24 i mean, like gnome-shell, they are connected as well 15:24 from Laney "I know this isn't finalised yet. It works for the yaru-theme case, but 15:24 there are also some others which are IMO still incorrect, like mozjs68." 15:24 i dont think i did, but let me put the action on me to check that, maybe i did 15:24 nope you replied to the thread 15:24 and there is some work from Iain 15:25 ddstreet: carry all my items over please 15:25 right i replied basically saying i don't understand what the desktop packageset split is intended to do 15:25 i think they will all be sorted 15:25 ok 15:25 with me catching up with what Iain did 15:25 and updating all packagesets 15:25 this will be done by next meeting 15:25 #action rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) 15:25 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) 15:25 #action rafaeldtinoco to handle request "Adding lubuntu-update-notifier to the Lubuntu package set" (carried over) 15:25 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to handle request "Adding lubuntu-update-notifier to the Lubuntu package set" (carried over) 15:25 #action rafaeldtinoco to complete documentation on existing packageset tooling, and discuss the current (large) delta in the packagesets that need adjusted (rolled over) 15:25 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to complete documentation on existing packageset tooling, and discuss the current (large) delta in the packagesets that need adjusted (rolled over) 15:26 #action rafaeldtinoco to handle getting gnome-shell into ubuntu desktop exceptions list 15:26 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to handle getting gnome-shell into ubuntu desktop exceptions list 15:26 #action rafaeldtinoco to handle "Refresh the packagesets" mailing list item (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html) 15:26 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to handle "Refresh the packagesets" mailing list item (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html) 15:26 #action rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Including yaru-theme in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html) 15:26 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Including yaru-theme in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html) 15:26 #action rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Include fprint packages in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001488.html) 15:26 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Include fprint packages in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001488.html) 15:26 ok and rafaeldtinoco if i can help with anything do let me know 15:26 Same 15:26 tks 15:27 i think Ill got it all cleared up 15:27 PTO is for that, isnt it ? 15:27 lol only if you're doing it at the beach :) 15:27 sgtm 15:27 ok that's all the previous action items, no applications on the agenda for today 15:28 2 mailing list items i think 15:28 Packages to Remove from ubuntustudio packageset (Erich Eickmeyer) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001497.html 15:28 they are related 15:28 to all my actions 15:28 yep unfortunately i think you're getting this one too :) 15:28 cleaning up for ubuntustudio 15:28 but it should come 'for free' with the tooling updates 15:29 and packageset exceptions <- this feature is *needed* to make sure we can cover it all 15:29 #action rafaeldtinoco to handle "Packages to Remove from ubuntustudio packageset" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001497.html) 15:29 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to handle "Packages to Remove from ubuntustudio packageset" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001497.html) 15:29 #) 15:29 rafaeldtinoco unfortunately i think the next one is yours too, iain's email 15:30 Applying packageset exceptions transitively (Iain Lane) 15:30 yep 15:30 its the exception to solve the gnome-shell case 15:30 The core split is basically the expansion of the desktop-common platform seed 15:30 sorry, I got highlighted :-) 15:30 that was the idea =) 15:30 and thanks for the packegeset scripts updates 15:30 #action rafaeldtinoco to handle "Applying packageset exceptions transitively" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001501.html) 15:30 * meetingology rafaeldtinoco to handle "Applying packageset exceptions transitively" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001501.html) 15:30 ill get into it this week 15:30 right, ok 15:31 ah oops, i forgot to change topic 15:31 #topic AOB 15:31 I think it's risky updating thoes sets manually, because then the next time you go to run the script things will drop out 'mysteriously' 15:31 Laney: ill mark all requests in the last months 15:31 and verify one by one 15:31 it should at least be paired with adding exceptions 15:31 Laney: yep 15:32 well, actually, you'd expect that normally just re-running the script would get new seeded stuff 15:32 ok, i'll stop talking now 15:32 :p 15:32 Laney: can I ping you 15:32 after I sort out your changes ? 15:32 #) 15:33 ok any other business to discuss? 15:33 or did i miss anything? 15:33 i think we're done then, in 5... 15:33 4 15:33 i think youve missed 15:33 a few topic changes 15:33 #) 15:33 lol yes i did :) 15:34 like select chair for next meeting 15:34 ah ok 15:34 #topic Chair and Time for Next Meeting 15:34 ill be the next chair, then robie 15:34 next mtg is Monday 2020-06-15 19:00 UTC 15:34 perhaps dan can go to the end of the line 15:34 I think I also haven't chaired for a while 15:34 sounds good, i'll move myself down 15:35 Probably missed those meetings on which I was to chair 15:35 ok anythign else i missed? 15:35 So if anyone feels like they'd like a break, feel free to select me as the chair 15:35 thats ok 15:35 next meeting I have so many items 15:35 being the chair will make things quicker 15:35 #) 15:35 ddstreet: thanks for being the chair today 15:35 nothing else 15:35 ;) 15:36 Nothing here 15:36 np, ok ending in 3... 15:36 2 15:36 1 15:36 #endmeeting