15:02 <cyphermox> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
15:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 20 15:02:11 2019 UTC.  The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:02 <cyphermox> #topic Lightning rounds
15:02 <cyphermox> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform)
15:02 * vorlon waves
15:02 <cyphermox> vorlon doko sil2100 mwhudson bdmurray infinity xnox cyphermox tdaitx juliank rbalint waveform
15:02 <vorlon> oh noes
15:03 <rbalint> vorlon noes
15:03 <cyphermox> doko nopes?
15:03 <vorlon> cyphermox: come back to me
15:03 <cyphermox> yup
15:03 <cyphermox> doko:
15:04 <juliank> o/
15:04 <cyphermox> guess he might have noped
15:04 <bdmurray> sil2100 is on a holiday
15:04 <cyphermox> who'se there?
15:04 <bdmurray> I'm here
15:04 <cyphermox> bdmurray: your turn then
15:04 <bdmurray> oh yess!
15:04 <vorlon> cyphermox: I can go whenever
15:05 <bdmurray> worked with webops to resolve issues w/ cassandra and units connecting
15:05 <bdmurray> reviewed sil2100's MP regarding additional sru removal suggestions
15:05 <bdmurray> reviewed, merged, uploaded deb2snap DistUpgradeQuirk improvement (LP: #1831933)
15:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1831933 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Disco) "do-release-upgrade tries to install snaps even if it knows it can't reach the snapstore" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831933
15:05 <bdmurray> reviewed, merged, uploaded release version translation fix (LP: #1727472)
15:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1727472 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "[RFE] Automatically update the Ubuntu version string in ubuntu-release-upgrader" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1727472
15:05 <bdmurray> discussed with mvo c-n-f-extractor mlocate / locate change
15:05 <bdmurray> tested dropping of u-r-u's obsolete kernel removal code (LP: #1828100)
15:05 <bdmurray> investigation into having u-r-u understand architectures in meta-release
15:05 <bdmurray> uploaded eoan fixes for LP: #1829968, LP: #1824005
15:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1828100 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "KernelRemoval section of DistUpgrade.cfg shouldn't require manual updating" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828100
15:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1829968 in base-files (Ubuntu Bionic) "motd [on at least some instances] does not auto-update daily" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829968
15:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1824005 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "installing / refreshing snap impossible to translate" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1824005
15:05 <bdmurray> ✔ done
15:05 <bdmurray> vorlon: how about now?
15:05 <vorlon> * announced the dropping of i386; fielding feedback
15:05 <vorlon> * meeting to confirm plans around OVS support in netplan
15:05 <vorlon> * discussions around difficult fwupd SRU to bionic
15:05 <vorlon> * netplan schema introspection: spec review/agreement
15:05 <vorlon> * planning for UC20 sprint next week
15:05 <vorlon> * upcoming:
15:05 <vorlon> * off tomorrow
15:06 <vorlon> * in London next week
15:06 <vorlon> (done)
15:06 <cyphermox> xnox:
15:06 <xnox> * secureboot signed s390-tools migrated
15:06 <xnox> * fix s390-tools ftbfs (submitted upstream too)
15:06 <xnox> * working on staruprd for uc20
15:06 <xnox> * working on core20 snap being able to build in lp/eoan
15:06 <xnox> * working on multipath -part* vs s390x and encrypted systems
15:06 <xnox> * more subiquity/casper fun for s390x
15:06 <xnox> * UC20 sprint next week
15:06 <xnox> (done)
15:06 <cyphermox> cyphermox:
15:07 <cyphermox> MIR review: finishing probert review
15:07 <cyphermox> investigating edk2/ovmf black screen with secboot.fd firmware
15:07 <xnox> StartUpRD
15:07 <cyphermox> netplan specs
15:07 <cyphermox> finishing grub2 merge
15:07 <cyphermox> (done)
15:07 <cyphermox> tdaitx:
15:08 <cyphermox> rbalint:
15:08 <rbalint> (short week)
15:08 <rbalint> * updated kerneloops with new upstream snapshot and few fixes in Debian
15:08 <rbalint> * filed and provided patch for https://bugs.debian.org/930654
15:08 <ubottu> Debian bug 930654 in base-files "base-files: mesg: ttyname failed: No such device" [Normal,Open]
15:08 <rbalint> * partner work
15:08 <rbalint> * meetings and discussions
15:08 <rbalint> (done)
15:08 <cyphermox> waveform:
15:09 <waveform> * off on Monday
15:09 <waveform> * working on PR for pi3-gadget to use flash-kernel's new RPi bootscript; may require SRU of flash-kernel (it's currently using bionic as a package source)
15:09 <waveform> * dissected core's u-boot environment (several versions) to determine what is specific to it, and whether it's feasible to have a single bootscript for core+classic (it is, but we need some extra bits to support their kernel params and splash screen)
15:09 <waveform> * checked Core on CM3+; it doesn't work - firmware out of date, commit in the works
15:09 <waveform> * replicated bluetooth issues on 3B+, haven't found time to dig into why yet
15:09 <waveform> * responded to comments on pi image building instructions
15:09 <waveform> (done)
15:10 <cyphermox> thanks!
15:10 <cyphermox> #topic Release incoming bugs (eoan)
15:10 <cyphermox> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:11 <bdmurray> So I see a bunch of ftbfs bugs in there but I thought we'd said they go straight to cards
15:12 <bdmurray> vorlon: ^^
15:12 <vorlon> ack, I'll card 'em now
15:12 <bdmurray> Well it'd be nice if that step got done with the bug filing
15:12 <bdmurray> bug 1832651
15:12 <ubottu> bug 1832651 in systemd (Ubuntu) "jackdbus fails to start: cannot allocate memory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1832651
15:13 <rbalint> bdmurray, i think we just card the ftbfs and pick them, but not at the meeting
15:14 <bdmurray> rbalint: my point was when the ftbfs bug is filed a card should also be created
15:14 <bdmurray> xnox: that's a systemd bug and I think there's an upstream fix
15:15 <xnox> ok
15:16 <xnox> bdmurray:  target
15:17 <bdmurray> so all the undecided ones are ftbfs
15:17 <cyphermox> grub2 is irrelevant, it's not going to be ftbfs when I'm done with it.
15:17 <vorlon> indeed
15:18 <cyphermox> actually, it is right now for me (I had exactly those issues), but that's what I'm fixing atm
15:18 <cyphermox> (claiming)
15:19 <vorlon> I'll fix up the rest
15:19 <bdmurray> cyphermox: I forget what did we say about bug 1706859?
15:19 <ubottu> bug 1706859 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "Auto-selected keyboard layout no longer matches chosen region on "Where are you" page" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1706859
15:20 <cyphermox> I think I said I was going to test it, figure out if it's indeed what I think, picking language in ubiquity screens vs. in gfxboot
15:20 <cyphermox> (so, preseeding)
15:20 <bdmurray> that sounds familiar
15:20 <bdmurray> so we leave that pending testing
15:21 <bdmurray> bug 1783597 has a question about revising minimum installation space for preinstalled snaps
15:21 <ubottu> bug 1783597 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "The disk-space-needed estimate doesn't account for the snaps" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783597
15:21 <cyphermox> yeah
15:21 <cyphermox> that one was because there's an open question whether we should also revisit minimum space hints in installers
15:21 <bdmurray> vorlon: Do you think we should just bump the space needed or maybe check to see if we should?
15:21 <bdmurray> e.g. do a minimum install and see what happens
15:22 <vorlon> probably the latter
15:22 <bdmurray> okay, I'll test that
15:23 <bdmurray> I think that's good for rls-ee bugs
15:23 <cyphermox> #topic Release incoming bugs (bionic)
15:23 <cyphermox> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:23 <cyphermox> one bug in that list
15:23 <rbalint> how can we tell the needed space for snaps in advance when there are debs pulling in snaps in postinst?
15:24 <vorlon> that's not how our images should be configured; snaps should be getting directly seeded
15:25 <juliank> should we add an extra fields to debs?
15:25 <rbalint> juliank, that could work
15:26 <rbalint> like extra space needed for the package
15:26 <juliank> XB-Extra-Install-Size: <kb>
15:26 <rbalint> this could also be useful for other dynamic data
15:26 <juliank> It might also be a useful estimate for packages that might create huge files
15:26 <juliank> or flash installer or stuff
15:26 <rbalint> :-D
15:27 <rbalint> juliank, seems we agree :-)
15:28 <juliank> ack
15:28 * juliank speaks with his crazy APT maintainer hat
15:34 <cyphermox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1509717
15:34 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1509717 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "Wily LVM-RAID1 – md: personality for level 1 is not loaded" [High,In progress]
15:34 <bdmurray> So old
15:34 <cyphermox> ^ bb incoming bug
15:36 <gaughen> I see it's assigned to apw
15:37 <gaughen> is this something foundations should look to address?  do we agree that now we have comment #7 should we do it?
15:37 <cyphermox> so; tracking or not?
15:37 <gaughen> so xnox it's an sru of lvm2?
15:37 <cyphermox> xnox: are you volunteering for it?
15:38 <xnox> cyphermox:  no, enotime
15:38 <xnox> i can do it in august
15:38 <cyphermox> ack
15:38 <vorlon> but it's a small change
15:38 <vorlon> it's just a little wafer
15:38 <bdmurray> so let's track and card that then
15:38 <vorlon> ok I'll do
15:39 <bdmurray> and unassign Andy
15:39 <cyphermox> ok; moving on then
15:39 <cyphermox> #topic Team proposed-migration report
15:39 <xnox> vorlon:  btw, should i sru openssl postinst fix for people who purged debconf database?
15:39 <cyphermox> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:40 <xnox> vorlon:  or just push openssl to security, and let everyone explode?!
15:40 <vorlon> xnox: you mean fix the .templates?
15:40 <vorlon> there is no postinst change required
15:40 <gaughen> xnox, vorlon let's chat more about this one when we get to AOB
15:40 <vorlon> and yes it should be fixed
15:40 <gaughen> apt is blocked on apt
15:41 <gaughen> juliank is on it
15:41 <juliank> upstream apt maintainer me will be doing a new release soon
15:42 <juliank> also python-apt update is needed, see https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/apt.html
15:42 <juliank> also could someone remove debian-xcontrol, aptsh, and goplay from eoan? thanks!
15:43 <juliank> (I filed bugs they are listed in #u-release somewhere)
15:44 <cyphermox> ok; that's it then?
15:44 <cyphermox> #topic Chair selection for next meeting
15:44 <cyphermox> who's the victim?
15:44 <bdmurray> Is AOB after chair?
15:44 <cyphermox> yes
15:45 <rbalint> cyphermox, shuf? :-)
15:45 <cyphermox> I nominate sil2100 because he's not here to defend himself?
15:45 <cyphermox> (that's what I did, shuf)
15:45 <juliank> +1
15:45 <bdmurray> +1
15:45 <xnox> seconded
15:45 <rbalint> +seconded
15:45 <cyphermox> shuf is going to be fair but not fun though; if you happen to be unlucky
15:46 <cyphermox> ok, sil2100 is next chair, or we'll figure out something
15:46 <cyphermox> #topic AOB
15:46 <juliank> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
15:46 <cyphermox> that's a good song!
15:47 <bdmurray> cyphermox: You are out on Monday right?
15:48 <cyphermox> yes, I'm out for the next two Mondays
15:48 <juliank> JFTR: I'm not here - I'm out today and tomorrow
15:48 <juliank> All I did today was wash my bicycle
15:48 <cyphermox> bdmurray: but, hey, Mondays are the worst
15:48 <cyphermox> and now I want lasagna
15:49 <cyphermox> any other other business?
15:49 <juliank> end of aob
15:49 <vorlon> nothing else here
15:50 <cyphermox> winnitude!
15:50 <cyphermox> #endmeeting