== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team, 06 Jun at 15:06 — 16:02 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-06-06-15.06.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Lightning rounds === The discussion about "Lightning rounds" started at 15:06. === Release incoming bugs (bionic) === The discussion about "Release incoming bugs (bionic)" started at 15:15. * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs === Release incoming bugs (eoan) === The discussion about "Release incoming bugs (eoan)" started at 15:17. * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs === Team proposed-migration report === The discussion about "Team proposed-migration report" started at 15:57. * ''LINK:'' http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 16:00. == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * gaughen (56) * vorlon (55) * bdmurray (26) * sil2100 (22) * juliank (21) * ubottu (13) * cyphermox (13) * rbalint (12) * ogra (12) * tdaitx (10) * mwhudson (9) * xnox (8) * waveform (6) * doko (5) * meetingology (3) == Full Log == 15:06 #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team 15:06 Meeting started Thu Jun 6 15:06:02 2019 UTC. The chair is gaughen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:06 15:06 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:06 #topic Lightning rounds 15:06 xnox bdmurray vorlon tdaitx mwhudson infinity juliank rbalint sil2100 waveform doko cyphermox 15:06 xnox, you won! 15:06 or did cyphermox win? 15:07 worked with webops regarding retracers unable to connect to cassandra 15:07 reported bug regarding tar extract xattrs only doing user.* (LP: #1831150) 15:07 Launchpad bug 1831150 in tar (Ubuntu) "only user.* extended attributes restored upon extraction" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831150 15:07 (headlight) xnox enabled lz4 15:07 also reported it upstream to the GNU bug tracker 15:08 bdmurray, go while xnox is away 15:08 research into history of the addition of xattrs support into tar 15:08 sent an email to the bug-tar mailing list regarding extract and xattrs 15:08 reviewed mlocate thread, sent summary to foundations mailing list 15:08 looked into how Fedora, CentOS install and configure mlocate 15:08 commented on snapcraft forum post re: offline do-release-upgrade and snap transition 15:08 meetings regarding rls- tagged bug backlog and review of bugs 15:08 ✔ done 15:08 vorlon: 15:08 * laying out specs for the cycle roadmap 15:08 * reviewing specs 15:08 * discussions around architectures 15:08 * SRU reviews 15:08 * livecd-rootfs SRUs for minimal images; and another one in the pipe to fix snap seeding on bionic 15:09 (done) 15:09 Out on most of Tuesday because I enjoy waiting in lines for appointments. 15:09 * report on removed debian packages that might be blocking proposed-migration 15:09 - based on code from process-removals (probably should be extracted as a lib later on) 15:09 - looking at other scripts that generate reports (isn't there a way other than mixing python and html?) 15:09 * looking over improving openjdk autopkgtests 15:09 - fetching buildlogs and autopkgtest results to filter out unstable tests from the openjdk testsuite 15:09 Other: 15:09 - keeping track of the openjdk pre-releases 15:09 (done) 15:09 got reusing-partitions into review 15:09 looked at finalrd-related autopkgtest failures 15:09 thinking about unattended server installs 15:09 (fin) 15:09 oh yeah and flew to europe with small children 15:10 bdmurray: do you have a link to the offline do-release-upgrade question? 15:10 vorlon: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/offline-do-release-upgrades-from-xenial-to-bionic-introducing-snap-pkgs/11327/5 15:10 tdaitx: well the report i added uses jinja2 15:11 No infinity? 15:12 juliank 15:12 * (was out last week Wed, Thu, and Fri) 15:12 * Uploaded apport/xenial that fixes its linux vs. linux-signed autopkgtest failure 15:12 * SRUed lvm2 fix for path of systemd-run in 69-lvm-metad.rules (LP: #1830169) 15:12 Launchpad bug 1830169 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "lvm udev rule fails to call systemd-run" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1830169 15:12 * Analysed other apport/xenial autopkgtest failures re launchpad interaction 15:12 * Investigating autopkgtest failures for my pending SRUs 15:12 (done I think) 15:12 (two weeks with ~one on vacation) 15:13 * proposed patch for qemu LP: #1823872 to let other security updates installed when the installed unattended-upgrades is not fixed, released throught -security* proposed patch for qemu LP: #1823872 to let other security updates installed when the installed unattended-upgrades is not fixed, released throught -security 15:13 Launchpad bug 1823872 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Trusty) "Fixing fsfreeze-hook can break unattended upgrades" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823872 15:13 * fixed LP: #1830427 15:13 Launchpad bug 1830427 in ec2-hibinit-agent (Ubuntu Disco) "Instance may loose network connectivity after resuming the 2nd time" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1830427 15:13 * unattended-upgrades fixes 15:13 * Fixed 16.04 WSL app that installed 18.04 accidentally 15:13 * updated wireshark through Debian to 2.6.9 15:13 * updated gce-compute-image-packages to 20190522 including preparing SRUs 15:13 * uploaded updated waylandpp to unstable then synced it to eoan 15:13 * partner work 15:13 (done) 15:13 - SRU reviews and releases 15:13 - Ouchy on Friday, had PM off 15:13 - Kernel SRU releases - phasing out the releases this time 15:13 - Short DMB meeting (no quorum) 15:13 - Preparing two solution-propositions for the classic preinstalled image /boot/grub upgrade problem 15:13 * One in livecd-rootfs and one in ubuntu-image - not sure which is the best way 15:13 - Modifying kernel-sru-release to support releasing kernels to -updates and then -security only 15:13 - Poking people for testing the -security updated toolchain packages 15:13 - Copying the toolchain packages to -proposed, making sure they look good 15:13 - NEW reviews: 15:14 * BinNEW review of ubuntustudio-look 15:14 * A NEW review of lsp-plugins, iterating on the package some more, finally approved - still waiting for fixes for all arches 15:14 - Reviewing and releasing of Dave's new u-boot merge 15:14 - Melting, too hot here 15:14 (done) 15:14 * Responded to comments on Pi Amazing spec 15:14 * Validated Pi3 armhf images work on Pi2 under all circumstances (including kernel upgrades, flash-kernel upgrades, switching cards between machines); prepped branch removing all the pi2 hacks and uboot.env stuff from flash-kernel 15:14 * Spent Wednesday feeling horrid :( 15:14 * Digging into Bluetooth on Pi under Ubuntu Core (needs firmware for 3B+, apparmor profiles for raw sockets, and a mechanism to disable UART and kernel serial console to avoid boot cycles) 15:14 * Proposed livecd-rootfs change to seed cloud-init from boot partition on Pi (changes to pi3-gadget are already committed) 15:14 (done) 15:14 doko, 15:14 - OpenJDK fun ... Had a phone call with AdoptJDK and some Debian maintainers about the current versioning rants/issues. Up 15:14 dated OpenJDK 8, LTS and 13 packages. 15:14 - Python 3.8 beta1 15:14 - GCC clash protection and cet updates, together with amurray 15:14 (done) 15:14 mwhudson: nice! thanks for the pointer 15:14 cyphermox, 15:15 - shim review: Endless, Newstart, Hiddn Security 15:15 - coordinating work for shim update / planning for signing artifact changes for shim 16 (reproducible builds) 15:15 - networkmanager autopkgtests / handoff to desktop team 15:15 - re-started grub2 merge + grub-initrd-fallback.service changes / bootctl support 15:15 - more on 'netplan info' spec / proof of concept 15:15 - walinuxagent update (bug LP: #1827995) 15:15 - consulting on some NAC questions 15:15 Launchpad bug 1827995 in walinuxagent (Ubuntu) "Request to integrate Microsoft's new Azure Linux Agent 2.2.40" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827995 15:15 (done) 15:15 #topic Release incoming bugs (bionic) 15:15 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:15 bug 1831252 15:15 bug 1831252 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "panic=-1 is completely ignored by the initrd causing unexpected behaviour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831252 15:16 that's an ee bug I guess I jumped the gun 15:16 No foundations bugs in bb-incoming 15:16 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:17 #topic Release incoming bugs (eoan) 15:17 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:17 bug 1831252 15:17 bug 1831252 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Bionic) "panic=-1 is completely ignored by the initrd causing unexpected behaviour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831252 15:17 ogra: Are you planning on working on that bug? 15:18 bdmurray, i discussed it with xnox and thought this is foundations land 15:19 we have fixed it downstream for the specific customer that had issues with it though (by simply setting panic=30) 15:19 so i wasnt actually planning to ... 15:19 I don't understand how the initramfs handling of the panic argument on the kernel commandline in any way impacts the kernel's behavior 15:20 it doesnt 15:20 I expect that to be handled in kernel 15:20 I agree it's foundations' responsibility if there's a bug in initramfs-tools 15:20 I just don't yet understand the stated bug 15:21 I guess we should take it for investigation 15:21 otoh later you'll have a mangled kernel cmdline in userspace; is that an issue? why are we even mucking with panic= in initramfs? 15:21 panic=-1 is a kernel option to force immediate reboot (vs using a positive value for delay) 15:21 cyphermox: the kernel commandline is not writable by init 15:21 vorlon: no, but things in initramfs may want it for some reason 15:22 and it would be in some environment, even if it's not modified in /proc/cmdline 15:22 and in the initrd script there is no handling of negative values so it drops you to a shell instead of rebooting 15:22 right, so if the kernel panics, it itself should see the panic=-1 on the (immutable) commandline 15:22 and reboot 15:22 yup 15:22 and bugger userspace 15:22 except that its not the kernel that panics but an initrd script that fails 15:22 you're saying the initramfs script fails because the option is set? 15:22 then the panic() function kicks in ... fails and drops to a shell 15:23 yes 15:23 ok 15:23 it has no handling for panic=-1 15:23 so yes, let's dig into that 15:23 vorlon, thoughts on the importance? 15:23 gaughen: medium, really 15:23 if you use secureboot you probably dont want the system to drop you into a shell at any time ... in case an admin has set panic=-1 15:23 should we shove this discussion in the bug? 15:24 s/shell/root shell/ 15:24 bah 15:24 bah 15:24 bah 15:24 black sheep 15:24 have you any wool? 15:25 xnox! 15:25 welcome 15:25 missed you 15:25 xnox, don't worry rbalint gave your status 15:25 status report no ready: openssl, zecureboot, subiquity, systemd, kernel =) 15:25 bug 1823434 came out of rls-dd review 15:25 bug 1823434 in pkg-config (Ubuntu) "pkg-config ftbfs in disco" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823434 15:25 xnox, we've moved on 15:26 I've confirmed the build failure 15:26 in ee 15:27 I'm surprised it's not also reported in Debian, but it looks like we have a newer version than they do 15:28 I think we should handle this one. Will card it 15:29 I think we should (auto-)commit to all ftbfs fixes of our packages in main 15:30 I'm okay with us quickly going through these, just quick. 15:30 next one bdmurray! 15:31 bug 1798369 15:31 bug 1798369 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Reinstall Ubuntu (with preserving existing data) shows error message due to "Could not get lock /target/var/cache/apt/archives/lock"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798369 15:31 I tested this the other day and while I didn't get the same error message I did still get an error 15:32 did this one come up in a different context last meeting? 15:32 the bug is familiar 15:32 Yes, does that option still exist was the question so I tested it 15:32 we did bring up other ubiqutiy bugs last meeting 15:32 ok 15:34 vorlon: panic is also used by initramfs, and drops to shell with '-1' setting instead of actually panicing kernel, for it to read panic= and do the instant reboot. 15:34 vorlon: the panic() function of initramfs. 15:34 xnox, you're living in the past! 15:34 we've moved on 15:34 xnox: so there's only impact if something else in the initramfs is broken 15:34 vorlon: yes. 15:35 hence, medium 15:38 That's it for high bugs 15:39 I notice this is in the list https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1825001 15:39 Launchpad bug 1825001 in apt (Ubuntu) "Allow archives to send a 4xx response to tell apt to try again later" [Wishlist,Triaged] 15:39 triaged as wishlist 15:39 but it's a request from Canonical IS 15:39 bdmurray and cyphermox are going to meet offline and burn through the whole ee list 15:40 because they want to mitigate the impact of apt client requests when the pipe is over capacity 15:41 oh, god I was scrolled up in the buffer 15:42 So the main issue I think is that systemd does not give us an option to do retries on timers 15:42 vorlon: do they want to return that to _all_ clients or _some_ clients? 15:42 juliank: added a comment to clarify: I think what we actually care about is a user agent in the apt requests 15:42 xnox: ^^ that 15:42 vorlon: There's a different bug for interactive user agent 15:42 ah 15:42 then maybe this bug should be wontfix 15:42 vorlon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1825000 15:42 Launchpad bug 1825000 in apt (Ubuntu) "Add ability for mirrors to distinguish interactive and non-interactive apt runs" [Wishlist,Triaged] 15:42 or fix released 15:43 ok then I think the latter (with the lower bug number) is the actually interesting one 15:43 vorlon: I want to have real retrying if something failed temporarily, but it's blocked on systemd 15:43 Or writing a daemon or something 15:43 juliank: ok, well I think /that/ is truly wishlist 15:44 Yes, that's what I discussed w/ someone on IRC, and hence the reason why I marked it as wishlist 15:44 whereas injecting a different user agent for u-u so that the archive can selectively shed requests when under load is more important 15:44 But that's not entirely clear 15:44 We should inject a user agent when running from timers I guess 15:44 juliank: what do you think about bumping priority of LP: #1825000 and putting it in the queue? 15:44 Launchpad bug 1825000 in apt (Ubuntu) "Add ability for mirrors to distinguish interactive and non-interactive apt runs" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1825000 15:44 yeah 15:45 vorlon, juliank you two done? 15:45 Like, also for apt-get update which runs by apt-daily.timer 15:45 nope 15:45 (do the json hooks give us enough now to inject a U-A header?) 15:45 Let's bump it to something useful 15:45 vorlon: No 15:45 ok 15:45 juliank, vorlon shall I card this? 15:45 gaughen: yes please 15:46 Oh, there was one more bug a friend brought up. 15:46 moving on 15:46 oooh 15:46 bug 1831453 ;-) 15:47 bug 1831453 in subiquity (Ubuntu) "[Hyper-V] Install issue for Ubuntu 19.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831453 15:47 oh me! 15:47 I thought that would come up at the end in other topics 15:47 thank you bdmurray 15:47 What can I say except "you're welcome" 15:48 bdmurray, did you see my eye rolling unicorn gif? 15:49 I figured you'd see it since it involved a unicorn and I know how you feel about unicorns 15:49 ALTHOUGH, we still don't know who is responsible for the unicorn 15:50 * gaughen is singing "let it go" 15:51 I don't understand, what is the reason for this bug being brought in? 15:51 who is running subiquity in hyper-v? 15:51 and why 15:51 the bug submitter 15:52 I don't think it's a priority for us to support subiquity under hyper-v 15:52 we provide cloud images for hyper-v 15:53 and if the submitter is doing this for installer testing, any bugs found on hyper-v only are not a priority 15:57 #topic Team proposed-migration report 15:57 #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs 15:58 lxml 15:58 pandas on ppc64el 15:58 that screams "i want to look at that" 15:58 who names a package pandas? 15:58 mwhudson: that's mine 15:59 sil2100, you'll look at lxml/pandas? 15:59 I mean, I have it my look-at-list 15:59 juliank: scientists 15:59 Yep o/ 15:59 sil2100, okay it's yours! 15:59 ../../../usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pandas/tests/series/test_analytics.py::TestSeriesAnalytics::test_isin Killed 15:59 sil2100, want me to card it? 16:00 gaughen: I made a card 16:00 sil2100, will you add it to big packages 16:00 or whatever steve said 16:00 I can confirm and add it if needed 16:00 thank you sil2100 16:00 #topic AOB 16:00 I'm out this afternoon and tomorrow 16:00 bdmurray, have fun up there! 16:01 bdmurray, I hear there are 8 kegs of beer being carted up for the event 16:01 anything else? 16:01 nothing here 16:01 oooh! 16:01 new chair 16:01 juliank! 16:02 next chair is juliank 16:02 ack 16:02 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)