15:01 <slangasek> #startmeeting
15:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep  6 15:01:11 2018 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:01 <rcj> o/
15:01 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
15:02 <philroche> \o
15:03 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke fginther juliank cshep)
15:03 <slangasek> doko tdaitx fginther infinity philroche xnox slangasek cshep juliank Odd_Bloke bdmurray mwhudson sil2100 rbalint cyphermox rcj
15:03 <slangasek> doko: are you at your computer?
15:03 <philroche> slangasek: We need to add tobijk & aleks_bogdanov
15:03 <slangasek> philroche: I was giving them a pass for their first meeting :)
15:03 <philroche> Welcome tobijk & aleks_bogdanov :)
15:04 <slangasek> tdaitx:
15:04 <rcj> slangasek: and cshep
15:06 <slangasek> fginther:
15:06 <fginther> * Out one day for national holiday
15:06 <fginther> * Finished work to improve the alignment of an image
15:06 <fginther> * Finished work and merged cloud-init ssh config unit tests
15:06 <fginther> * Revising a specification document related to partner image publication
15:06 <fginther> * Cloud image build system vanguarding
15:06 <fginther> ✔ done
15:06 <fginther> infi<tab>
15:06 <fginther> not here I guess
15:06 <fginther> philroche:
15:06 <philroche> * Onboarding new team members. Welcome chep, tobijk & aleks_bogdanov :)
15:06 <philroche> * Cloud image modifications
15:06 <philroche> (done)
15:06 <philroche> xnox:
15:07 <xnox> * continued work on zkey enablement
15:07 <xnox> * s390-tools fix up #1790831
15:07 <xnox> * tboot point release / fixes ftbfs / fixes stuck in proposed &
15:07 <xnox> migration to ssl1.1 #1731097
15:07 <xnox> * kexec-tools migrated #1783086 as well as cryptsetup & systemd
15:07 <xnox> ..
15:07 <xnox> done
15:08 <slangasek> * short week, Labor Day
15:08 <slangasek> * SRUs (shim, grub, nvidia)
15:08 <slangasek> * proposed-migration:
15:08 <slangasek> * helped shepherd glibc through
15:08 <slangasek> * tracing various maintenance issues with autopkgtest runners
15:08 <slangasek> * misc autopkgtest fixes
15:08 <slangasek> * still working to get nvidia packages for clouds into their final form
15:08 <slangasek> (done)
15:09 <slangasek> cshep seems to be unavailable at the moment
15:09 <slangasek> juliank:
15:09 <juliank> * Fixed aptitude for boost1.67 transition (multi_index_container behavior change in 1.66)
15:09 <juliank> * Fixed packagekit crashing in providesCodec (LP: #1790671)
15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1790671 in packagekit (Ubuntu Bionic) "/usr/lib/packagekit/packagekitd:11:std::__cxx11::basic_string:AptIntf::providesCodec:backend_what_provides_thread:pk_backend_job_thread_setup:g_thread_proxy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1790671
15:09 <juliank> * Fixed PEP8 regression in yesterday's update-manager blocking transition
15:09 <juliank> * Started investigating the shim loading grub via iPXE in qemu (bug 1789319)
15:09 <ubottu> bug 1789319 in shim (Ubuntu) "Unable to load shimx64.efi using iPXE over UEFI" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1789319
15:09 <juliank> * Started working on manpage changes for networkctl & networkd-dispatcher to explain states (bug 1787495)
15:09 <ubottu> bug 1787495 in networkd-dispatcher (Ubuntu) "no explanation for the events in the networkd-dispatcher manpage" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787495
15:09 <juliank> * Discussed how to make less packages manually installed
15:09 <juliank> * Discussed apt/security/landscape interactions
15:09 <juliank> (d0n3)
15:10 <slangasek> Odd_Bloke:
15:11 <slangasek> Odd_Bloke may be unavailable
15:11 <slangasek> bdmurray:
15:16 <xnox> hey
15:16 <xnox> nothing at all
15:16 <xnox> just bdmurray: and then me....
15:16 <sil2100> No Brian?
15:16 <sil2100> Should I go?
15:17 <juliank> technical issues
15:17 <xnox> sil2100, he is in the hangout
15:17 <sil2100> Ah, hangout!
15:17 <bdmurray> worked with webops regarding transition of daisy to mojo env
15:18 <bdmurray> email to juliank re: u-r-u apt error string matching
15:18 <bdmurray> investigation into why team to package mapping hadn't been updated
15:18 <bdmurray> discussion with jdstrand re ubuntu-security-bugs team and pkg subscriptions
15:18 <bdmurray> submitted RT re daisy-app server log rotation
15:18 <bdmurray> submitted RT re rabbitmq server and graphite failing again
15:18 <bdmurray> duplicate bug consolidation for LP: #1789879
15:18 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1789879 in msttcorefonts (Ubuntu) "Installation error with ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.7ubuntu3_all.deb" [Critical,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1789879
15:18 <bdmurray> testing of release upgrade failure bug reports
15:18 <bdmurray> digging into getting instance count of u-u recursion error crash
15:18 <bdmurray> reported appstream bug LP: #1790693 (discovered during upgrade testing)
15:18 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1785498 in appstream (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1790693 g_atomic_ref_count_dec: assertion 'g_atomic_int_get (arc) > 0' failed" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785498
15:18 <bdmurray> investigation into size of retrace_amd64 queue (large due accepting 1/3 of crashes but not having 1/3 of retracers)
15:18 <bdmurray> also issues with delete'ing files from swift and therefore removing from the queue
15:18 <bdmurray> reviewed and merged deej's nrpe changes to the daisy, retracer, and errors charms
15:18 <bdmurray> modified logrotation jobs for daisy and errors app servers
15:18 <bdmurray> started work on updates must be installed before release upgrade
15:18 <bdmurray> ✔ done
15:18 <bdmurray> sil2100: there now you can go
15:18 <sil2100> - Sick for parts of Monday and Tuesday (shorter week)
15:18 <sil2100> - Regular SRU reviews and releases
15:18 <sil2100> - Fixed --extra-ppas for ubuntu-image classic builds
15:18 <sil2100> - raspi3 u-i classic:
15:18 <sil2100> * Figuring out why suddenly the local builds stopped working
15:18 <sil2100> (I missed out some fixes when pushing to the PPA that I had locally before)
15:18 <sil2100> * Iterating on the image builds until there's a proper rootfs
15:19 <sil2100> * Work on fixing the gadget bits and boot-file creation (duh, the kernel is missing right now!)
15:19 <sil2100> - core18:
15:19 <sil2100> * Some experimenting trying to build a local raspi3 core18 image for testing
15:19 <sil2100> * Fighting with core18 image builds due to breakages in snapd
15:19 <sil2100> * Minor PR reviews
15:19 <sil2100> * Adding rsync to the core18 snap for debugging
15:19 <sil2100> - Some work on the britney SRU regression notification test-suite
15:19 <sil2100> - Some canidate reviews
15:19 <sil2100> (done)
15:19 <sil2100> bdmurray: o/
15:19 <xnox> sil2100, are ubuntu-image autopkgtest good? i saw them failing earlier....
15:19 <rbalint> (short week)
15:19 <rbalint> * fixed rax-nova-agent regression on Xenial
15:19 <rbalint> * cosmic-proposed gardening
15:19 <rbalint> * WSL updates
15:19 <rbalint> * working on LP: #1783023 but no fix yet
15:19 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1783023 in update-manager (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Software Updater is sometimes blank when there are ONLY phased updates and auto-removable kernels" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783023
15:19 <rbalint> (done)
15:20 <rcj> cyphermox:
15:20 <cyphermox> - shim-review: DriveLock
15:20 <cyphermox> - shim 15 update and SRUs
15:20 <cyphermox> - preparing netplan.io 0.40 release
15:20 <cyphermox> - optional-addresses upstream systemd work
15:20 <cyphermox> - gnu-efi SRU everywhere to support new shim, unbreak shim 13 in trusty.
15:20 <cyphermox> - test rebuilds for gnu-efi revdeps
15:20 <cyphermox> - grub2: sponsor add_ext_lfb_base_support.patch: Add support for ext_lfb_base. (LP: #1785033)
15:20 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1785033 in HWE Next "GRUB needs to support 64-bit efi linear frame buffer address" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785033
15:20 <cyphermox> - investigating how to retrieving keys to validate kernel signatures
15:20 <cyphermox> (done)
15:20 <rcj> rcj:
15:20 <rcj> * on-boarding a new team-mate (Welcome cshep!)
15:20 <rcj> * out on Monday for federal holiday (alas not a "bank holiday" philroche)
15:20 <rcj> * meeting with cloud partners
15:20 <rcj> ☑
15:24 <slangasek> any questions on status?
15:25 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
15:25 <slangasek> bdmurray:
15:25 <bdmurray> So there's this upgrade bug which is somehwat vague
15:25 <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1789977
15:25 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1789977 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 crashed, required dpkg --configure -a to recover (multiple machines)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
15:26 <bdmurray> There was an lvm2-activation segfault during or after the upgrade
15:26 <xnox> ouch
15:26 <bdmurray> I managed to find a crash about lvm2 in LP and a bucket in the error tracker.
15:27 <bdmurray> I'm not positive they are all the same issue though.
15:28 <juliank> I don't see an actual upgrade bug in the log, do you?
15:28 <juliank> regarding the dpkg --configure -a
15:28 <bdmurray> Given the quantity of crashes about lvm2 I think that should be looked at by xnox though.
15:28 <bdmurray> ;-)
15:29 <juliank> I can say it's not crashing for me :)
15:29 <bdmurray> juliank: maybe the screenlog would help?
15:30 <juliank> I was looking at AptTermLog to see which packages remained unconfigured
15:31 <slangasek> ok I think we'll take that one into trello
15:31 <slangasek> bdmurray: next?
15:32 <bdmurray> Bug 1767918 is a quick fix, just need to schedule it
15:32 <ubottu> bug 1767918 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Login password from GDM is shown in plain text on the VT1 console" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767918
15:32 <slangasek> +1 I'll pull it into backlog now
15:33 <slangasek> bdmurray: next?
15:33 <bdmurray> Maybe the desktop team should look at the comments in bug 1788220?
15:33 <ubottu> bug 1788220 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "[snap] Ubuntu 18.04 LTS includes gnome-calculator as a snap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1788220
15:35 <rbalint> can we as Foundations do anything regarding shipping or not shipping things as snaps?
15:35 <xnox> rbalint, on cloud images yes
15:38 <slangasek> well, it's not something that's going to be reverted wrt 18.04
15:38 <slangasek> if there were suggestions for concrete improvement to the implementation, that'd be one thing
15:38 <bdmurray> I was surprised by files in $HOME/snap
15:39 <xnox> the $HOME/snap is akward
15:39 <slangasek> it is surprising if you were expecting ~/. but there are arguments and that's not a decision that's going to be reverted via a bug on gnome-calculator in launchpad
15:39 <xnox> i would expect that on the server, but on desktop i would expect liek ~/.config/snap or ~/.local/snap
15:39 <slangasek> bdmurray: +1 for asking the desktop team to field this, which is ultimately 'opinion'
15:39 <xnox> because ~/.local/snap is ~+ /snap
15:39 <bdmurray> slangasek: ack
15:39 <xnox> because ~/.local/snap is ~= /snap
15:40 <slangasek> (also I think that 1.6GB disk figure is incorrect)
15:40 <bdmurray> bug 1754294 seems to be affecting some people when upgrading, while they are not ubuntu packages I wonder if there is anything we can do better there.
15:40 <ubottu> bug 1754294 in curl (Ubuntu) "After last updated libcurl3 on libcurl4, some apps are removed." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754294
15:41 <bdmurray> slangasek: That disk estimate for upgrading would need to take into account the space in /home too
15:42 <slangasek> bdmurray: sorry, is that last comment referring still to the snap thing?
15:42 <slangasek> because snaps only use space in /home after they've been executed by the user, so not an upgrade thing
15:42 <bdmurray> slangasek: yes, ah okay
15:42 <cyphermox> 1.6Gb figure does sound rather large
15:43 <cyphermox> larger even than if you also had extra bits, classic snap, etc.
15:43 <xnox> cyphermox, i think the killer is three copies mounted by default.
15:43 <slangasek> cyphermox: I did the math and get 262M for Ubuntu Desktop 18.04.  I think the user is counting disk space under /snap improperly
15:44 <cyphermox> heh
15:44 <xnox> which i think makes sense on iot, but doesn't make musch sense on a desktop with always-on interent.
15:44 <xnox> ogra, why is 3 copies, instead of just 2 for the desktop snapd deploys?
15:46 <slangasek> bdmurray: the user is complaining that we are not shipping an ABI-compatible version of the library; the library ABI has changed because time moves forward
15:46 <slangasek> bdmurray: we are not going to provide the old ABI, so those packages are going to be removed on upgrade, unless it makes the upgrade itself blow up there's nothing to do
15:49 <bdmurray> slangasek: ack, that's it from me then
15:49 <slangasek> ok
15:49 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
15:49 <slangasek> anything else?
15:50 <xnox> slangasek, i believe it did blow up upgrade
15:50 <xnox> slangasek, cause php and something rather tried to load both inside mod_php and than apache would fail
15:50 <cyphermox> no aob from me
15:50 <xnox> slangasek, because some niche stack was not ported, and it should be reverted to the old abi
15:50 <xnox> done
15:51 <rcj> no aob from me
15:51 <slangasek> #endmeeting