15:03 <slangasek> #startmeeting 15:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jul 12 15:03:40 2018 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:03 <meetingology> 15:03 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:03 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round 15:04 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke juliank fginther) 15:04 <slangasek> mwhudson rbalint sil2100 rcj cyphermox Odd_Bloke bdmurray philroche doko xnox juliank fginther slangasek infinity tdaitx 15:04 <slangasek> rbalint: hi 15:05 <rbalint> * wrote blog post http://balintreczey.hu/blog/run-ubuntu-on-windows-even-multiple-releases-in-parallel/ 15:05 <rbalint> * prepared many unattended-upgrades fixed and SRUd 15:05 <rbalint> * SRUd gce-compute-image-packages 15:06 <rbalint> * lot of unattended-upgrades testing 15:06 <rbalint> (done) 15:06 <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases 15:06 <sil2100> - New kernel SRU re-spin cycle for 4.15 15:06 <sil2100> - Translation updates: 15:06 <sil2100> * Copied langpacks to xenial-proposed for .5 15:06 <sil2100> * Testing reported regressions, investigated the issue, l-o-m generated erroneous PPA packages for some reason 15:06 <sil2100> (history shows it's not the first time) 15:06 <sil2100> * Requested a re-export, re-generated and re-uploaded packages, re-sent call-for-testing 15:06 <sil2100> * Requested a full translation export for bionic (decision has been made to update -base's for 18.04.1) 15:06 <sil2100> - Iterated on the security-britney instance 15:06 <sil2100> * Things work after some hacks, now just waiting for IS for getting it public 15:06 <sil2100> - Fixing tests in the ubuntu-image cross-compilation PR to correctly mock qemu-user-static in find_executable 15:06 <sil2100> - grub dual EFI/BIOS: 15:06 <sil2100> * Finalized verification of the packages, grub2-signed and shim-signed released 15:06 <sil2100> * Got poked by Steve about a serious regression introduced in installs with old isos 15:06 <sil2100> * Re-added missing dependency change, fast-tracked it to bionic-updates with Steve 15:06 <sil2100> - Some poking around about 16.04.5 stuff 15:07 <sil2100> - core18 minor PR reviews 15:07 <sil2100> (done) 15:07 <rcj> rcj: 15:07 <gaughen> o/ 15:07 <rcj> rcj: 15:07 <rcj> * working on bionic daily build failures 15:07 <rcj> * proposed disabling unused checksum calculation in livecd-rootfs 15:07 <rcj> * cloud-image partner work 15:07 <rcj> (done) 15:08 <cyphermox> - coaching Eickmeyer (ubuntu-studio) for uploads (calf) 15:08 <cyphermox> - [HIGHLIGHT] netplan.io release 0.39 15:08 <cyphermox> - debugging weird PE32 header issues between shim/grub/edk2 15:08 <cyphermox> y- review/sponsor fix for zfs in mkinitramfs (bug LP: #1661629) 15:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1661629 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "upgrade of kernel fails with mkinitramfs: failed to determine device for /" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1661629 15:08 <cyphermox> - convert triggers: dovecot, fusiondirectory 15:08 <cyphermox> - sru verfiication 15:08 <cyphermox> (done) 15:08 <Odd_Bloke> * MINIMAL IMAGE LAUNCH *airhorns* 15:08 <Odd_Bloke> * Work for existing partners 15:08 <Odd_Bloke> * Engagement with new partners around their images 15:08 <Odd_Bloke> * Work to improve our lxd testing, which has a couple of warts 15:08 <Odd_Bloke> * Preparation for sprint next week 15:08 <Odd_Bloke> (done) 15:08 <Odd_Bloke> bdmurray: 15:09 <bdmurray> encountered and reported Traceback when upgrading to Cosmic (LP: #1780501) 15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1780501 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Traceback calling Vte.Terminal.feed_child()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1780501 15:09 <bdmurray> investigation in vte2.91 regression of Vte.Terminal.feed_child() LP: #1780501 15:09 <bdmurray> SRU verification for Artful and Bionic of LP: #1768379 15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1768379 in python3-defaults (Ubuntu) "python3-minimal should predepend on versioned version of python3-minimal" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768379 15:09 <bdmurray> investigation into autopkgtest failures "triggered" by python3-defaults SRU 15:09 <bdmurray> learned about retry-autopkgtest-regressions and used it for python3-defaults issues 15:09 <bdmurray> tested mojo spec version of Errors Launchpad integration (not good) 15:09 <bdmurray> updated daisy code to handle lp_use_staging being a string, commented on RT to get it updated 15:09 <bdmurray> reported bug re deb to snap transition (LP: #1780841) 15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1780841 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "ubuntu-release-upgrader should transition debs to snaps" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1780841 15:09 <bdmurray> uploaded ubuntu-release-upgrader SRU for 18.04 fixing inhibitIdle and adding deb2snap transition 15:09 <bdmurray> discussion regarding handling of noawait transitions 15:09 <bdmurray> uploaded yorick, xpdf, and a ⛴ load more noawait SRUs for 16.04 (LP: #1780996) 15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1780996 in sphinx (Ubuntu Xenial) "Convert triggers to noawait" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1780996 15:09 <bdmurray> review of smoser software-properties MP 15:09 <bdmurray> SRU verification, upgrades from X and A, of LP: #1775660 15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1775660 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "ubuntu-release-upgrader should purge obsolete packages, not just remove them" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1775660 15:09 <bdmurray> worked on some of SRU verification of LP: #1780841 (🕷4 found) 15:09 <bdmurray> ✔ done 15:10 <slangasek> philroche is off 15:10 <bdmurray> doko: ? 15:10 <slangasek> doko is off 15:10 <doko> on vacation 15:10 <slangasek> xnox is off 15:10 <doko> see you next week .... 15:10 <slangasek> juliank: 15:10 <juliank> * debugged mariadb hanging on arm64; blocking autopkgtests for itself and rdeps 15:10 <juliank> * apt, python-apt point releases 15:10 <juliank> * further work on grub postinst signature check 15:10 <juliank> * a ton of trigger fixes 15:10 <juliank> * a bit of launchpad api learning and adding missing tasks to the trigger bug (LP forgot to add them)... 15:10 <juliank> (done) 15:11 <slangasek> fginther: 15:11 <fginther> * Out for 2 half days 15:11 <fginther> * Working on cloud-init changes to disable ssh for users other then root 15:11 <fginther> * Added unit tests to cover the pre-existing code 15:11 <fginther> * Building images to test in real clouds 15:11 <fginther> * Support release of minimal images with testing and publication fixes 15:11 <fginther> * Manual testing of an updated partner image 15:11 <fginther> ✔ done 15:14 <slangasek> * prep for next week's midcycle sprint 15:14 <slangasek> * worked on getting the POWER7 machines getting decommissioned 15:14 <slangasek> * interviewing candidates for a product manager role 15:14 <slangasek> * SRU, NEW reviews 15:14 <slangasek> * code reviews 15:14 <slangasek> * misc proposed-migration handling; there are still a lot of packages waiting in -proposed, but no more major transitions currently in progress and the backlog is way down, time for someone to start another transition 15:14 <slangasek> * upcoming 15:14 <slangasek> * off tomorrow (travel swap), in Montreal next week 15:14 <slangasek> (done) 15:14 <tdaitx> hmm, no infinity... 15:14 <slangasek> tdaitx: 15:14 <tdaitx> Short week: sick since the weekend, mostly out on Monday, slow going Tue & Wed 15:14 <tdaitx> * lshw update + sru (LP: #1752523) 15:14 <tdaitx> * working on openjdk-8 & openjdk-10 security updates 15:14 <tdaitx> Other: 15:14 <tdaitx> - taking evening language classes for the next 2 weeks (might affect my availability for the late team meetings) 15:14 <tdaitx> (done) 15:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1752523 in The Ubuntu-power-systems project "Ubuntu 18.04 [ P9 WSP DD2.2 ]: lshw version is displayed as "unknown" and -json option is not available in help message." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752523 15:15 <cyphermox> tdaitx: yay lshw uploads! 15:16 <slangasek> tdaitx: studying haskell? croatian? 15:16 <tdaitx> and for some reason lshw does make my laptop freeze up 15:16 <slangasek> :) 15:16 <slangasek> oh my 15:17 <sil2100> 'I speak fluently Python' 15:17 <tdaitx> slangasek: hah, no, just german 15:17 <slangasek> ok, any other questions on status? 15:17 <sil2100> Python seems like a bad language for speaking, especially with all the whitespaces mattering that much 15:17 <cyphermox> slangasek: product maanger role for Foundations or in general? 15:18 <slangasek> cyphermox: in "general" 15:18 <cyphermox> ack 15:20 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs 15:20 <slangasek> bdmurray: ? 15:20 <bdmurray> bug 1258597 popped up on my radar again 15:20 <ubottu> bug 1258597 in grub2 (Ubuntu Trusty) "[Patch] Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1258597 15:21 <bdmurray> It seems a lot of people are bothered by it and it seems easy to fix 15:22 <cyphermox> zug zug 15:22 <cyphermox> (I'll upload the fix right away) 15:22 <slangasek> what is the fix? to edit existing config files? 15:23 <bdmurray> I'm sure commentor #45 will appreciate it 15:23 <cyphermox> well, for one thing to not build from a default that has an invalid option 15:23 <cyphermox> as for editing the existing config files, that's much much harder. 15:23 <slangasek> ah ok 15:23 <slangasek> just checking the scope 15:23 <bdmurray> Could we fix it for 18.04.1? 15:23 <cyphermox> I'm thinking fixing the default will already help 15:23 <slangasek> yeah, sounds good. cyphermox you're saying you're taking it out of cycle? if you're SRUing it we should still probably track it? 15:24 <cyphermox> slangasek: I'll card and all of that 15:24 <cyphermox> bdmurray: should be feasible, no other SRU in flight from the look of it 15:25 <slangasek> I'll go ahead and card it 15:25 <bdmurray> Okay, moving on. Is there a spot for netboot bugs e.g. 1777474 15:25 <bdmurray> bug 1777474 15:25 <ubottu> bug 1777474 in Ubuntu "Netinstall ISO offers usage of HTTPS mirrors but lacks ca-certificates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1777474 15:25 <slangasek> "netinstall ISO" != "netboot" 15:25 <cyphermox> what's netinstall iso? 15:26 <slangasek> are they reporting it against netinstall or netboot? 15:26 <cyphermox> against mini.iso 15:28 <slangasek> yeah, I don't think that image is anything we should invest in 15:28 <cyphermox> don't we have some people who do use it? 15:28 <slangasek> if they were actually netbooting, that's a different matter 15:28 <cyphermox> should be simple enough to include ca-certificates on the mini.iso 15:29 <cyphermox> "simple enough" == making sure there's a udeb, and shipping the files it needs 15:29 <slangasek> cyphermox: clearly we do, but if they want a supported experience they should use the ISOs that we advertise 15:29 <cyphermox> slangasek: ok. 15:29 <bdmurray> where should the bug go though? 15:29 <slangasek> debian-installer 15:30 <bdmurray> okay 15:33 <bdmurray> Since we have a couple of SRU team members here could we talk about bug 1780501 and how to proceed. 15:33 <ubottu> bug 1780501 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Traceback calling Vte.Terminal.feed_child()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1780501 15:33 <slangasek> bdmurray: revert it all? 15:34 <bdmurray> I think in Ubuntu 18.04 at least it should be reverted. 15:34 <slangasek> so, +1 15:34 <bdmurray> I think the first paragraph of comment #8 is an assumption. 15:34 <bdmurray> See bug 1779015 where a project had to change because the SRU 15:34 <ubottu> bug 1779015 in Cubic trunk "Cubic crashes with error 'Vte.Terminal.feed_child() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given)'." [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1779015 15:35 <slangasek> developers are responsible for handling regressions introduced in SRUs 15:36 <bdmurray> And the fix outlined in comment #4 shows how another package had to do version checking to cope with it too. 15:38 <bdmurray> So it sounds like we are in agreement about fixing this for 18.04. 15:38 <bdmurray> Bug 1778140 sounds bad but seems like it may be a corner case. 15:38 <ubottu> bug 1778140 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu) "resize2fs hoses a filesystem on lvm after resizing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778140 15:40 <bdmurray> Any other opinions on that bug? 15:40 <slangasek> bdmurray: I see Ted is replying to that bug; I think we should let upstream work this at the moment 15:41 <slangasek> (we're not going to beat Ted T'so to resolving an e2fsprogs bug) 15:41 <slangasek> s/'s/s'/ 15:41 <bdmurray> should we flag to keep an eye for rls-cc? 15:43 <slangasek> bdmurray: unsure, you decide :) 15:43 <bdmurray> I'll subscribe to it so we have an eye on it. 15:44 <bdmurray> That's it from me. 15:46 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB 15:46 <slangasek> anything else? 15:46 <cyphermox> yes 15:46 <bdmurray> I'm out half of today and all of tomorrow 15:47 <cyphermox> sil2100 and I would play Mahjong at the next sprint, we'd need two more players 15:47 <cyphermox> asking in advance since it would be good to know rules beforehand 15:47 <bdmurray> Is the one where the rules change every year? 15:48 <cyphermox> the rules don't change every year in riichi mahjong (the japanese one, not the american one) 15:48 <cyphermox> (that's all AOB for me) 15:52 <slangasek> #endmeeting