17:02 <elopio> #startmeeting Community Council meeting: 20171116 17:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 16 17:02:50 2017 UTC. The chair is elopio. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 17:02 <meetingology> 17:02 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 17:03 <popey> o/ 17:03 <popey> I had a to-do to start a thread about wiki migration on the hub, but it's still on my to-do list, sorry. 17:03 <popey> Had a couple of mad weeks. 17:03 <elopio> Okay, hello! We didn't do a good use of the agenda in the hub this time, so let's start asking who has a topic to discuss 17:03 <elopio> I have two. Report of progress on my actions from last meeting, and ubuntu community appreciation day. 17:04 <elacheche> OK, let's discuss that 17:04 <elopio> Alright. Feel free to add topics as we go. 17:05 <elopio> So, thanks to wxl we started the LoCo council election. We have 7 votes already, probably missing Mark's who I'm not sure if it's going to vote or not. 17:05 <elopio> But, the deadline is tomorrow anyway. So we will end the voting and announce the new council tomorrow. 17:06 <elopio> I also had the action to convince everybody from the CC to be a mentor for code-in, but haven't done it yet. 17:06 <elopio> wxl already said he will be a mentor. What about you flexiondotorg and elacheche ? 17:07 <elacheche> I need to read more about code-in and the tasks that I should do, if my skills are good for that I will happy to be a mentor 17:07 <elacheche> The only recent informatio nI got about code-in is that Ubuntu is partof it, no further details, please share any link that can have details 17:08 * elacheche is very sorry, was very busy lately 17:08 <elopio> elacheche: I'm sure you will be a great mentor, and you can define the tasks you want to work on. Let's talk after the meeting, when you have some time :) 17:08 <elacheche> Sure elopio 17:09 <elopio> did we lose flexiondotorg ? 17:09 <flexiondotorg> I have some tasks for GCI related to MATE Desktop and Ubuntu MATE. 17:10 <flexiondotorg> So, what about ubuntu community appreciation day? 17:10 <elacheche> It'll be for next Sunday, right? 17:11 <elopio> flexiondotorg: awesome. I didn't see you replying on the post on the hub. Maybe I missed it. I will ping ahoneybun, jose and marcoceppi to see if they become mentors too. 17:11 <elopio> wait, wait. Still on the report of the actions. 17:11 <elopio> my other action was to ping jose and marcoceppi to see why they have been missing this meetings 17:11 <elacheche> We'll celebrate the Software Freedom Day on sunday too.. I'll be part of that me and my LoCo, and we'll celebrate the Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day too + a Release Party (hopefully) 17:11 <elopio> jose said he was busy with a new job, but that he would be here today :/ 17:11 <ahoneybun> elopio: ? 17:12 <elopio> marcoceppi said he has been traveling the world for a few weeks, and has weird hours 17:12 <elopio> I want to encourage everybody to use the hub more to talk council stuff, so these meetings are not so necessary in the future. Just for important things to sync. 17:13 <elopio> another action was to find artists. I talked to eylul from ubuntu studio and she liked the idea very much. 17:13 <flexiondotorg> We should promote what Ubuntu appreciation day is on the social networks so people can think about who they want to thank. 17:13 <elopio> flexiondotorg: can I put some pressure on you to make that post so we can direct the artists there? 17:14 <flexiondotorg> elopio: You mean to here - https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-community-appreciation-day-nov-20th/1762 17:14 <elacheche> elopio: We can share a public announcement to spread the word about searching for artists, the news ML should be great for that 17:14 <elopio> flexiondotorg: no, I'm talking about the guerrilla marketing campaing. 17:15 <flexiondotorg> Ah, right. 17:15 <elopio> you are getting ahead, uca day was the second topic on the agenda :D 17:15 <flexiondotorg> Yes. I have started drafting something. 17:15 <flexiondotorg> Need time to finish it. 17:15 <elopio> flexiondotorg: thanks :) 17:15 <elopio> That's all I had to report, so next topic, UCA Day 17:15 <elopio> I started the post that flexiondotorg linked. If you have ideas of what else to do, please share them 17:16 <elopio> we should sync the ubuntu social network accounts to send posts on that day, on all our different time zones. 17:16 <elacheche> As I said, in Tunisia We'll celebrate the Software Freedom Day on sunday too.. I'll be part of that me and my LoCo, and we'll celebrate the Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day too + a Release Party (hopefully) 17:16 <flexiondotorg> So I think we should share that post, before Monday, so people learn that UAD is coming and think about who they might want to thank. 17:16 <elopio> elacheche: it's monday, but your celebration on sunday will be great! :D 17:17 <elacheche> Oh! Yeah I'll be the 1st to celebrate :D 17:17 <elopio> flexiondotorg: so, start making noise today or tomorrow? 17:17 <elacheche> We should share the info before Monday then, we should pick a hashtag for that too 17:17 <elacheche> #UCADay will be good I guess 17:17 <elopio> elacheche: the hashtag used for previous years was #ucaday 17:17 <flexiondotorg> I will queue some social posts for tomorrow. 17:17 <elopio> thanks flexiondotorg! 17:18 <elacheche> OK, my fault, 1st year to hear about the ucaday :( 17:18 <elopio> I also got a MR for message of the day: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-motd/appreciation/+merge/333552 17:18 <elacheche> flexiondotorg: You'll use Ubuntu official accounts? 17:18 <elopio> now I need to find Dustin to merge it, hopefully to release it tomorrow. 17:19 <elopio> alright. Something else to discuss about ucaday? 17:20 <flexiondotorg> elopio: Great idea updating motd. Very creative! 17:20 <elopio> we'll see how it goes and if we can keep using that resource 17:21 <flexiondotorg> Yeah, we should use that for future promotions. 17:21 <elopio> so, bottom line, make sure to appreciate somebody before monday ends. 17:21 <elopio> let's see what else should we discuss... 17:22 <elacheche> I'll do fir sure x) Multiple persons, not only one! :) 17:22 <elopio> elacheche: on the previous meeting we talked about starting to discuss with the wiki people. popey will set the right tone for the discussion, but I was wondering if you could help finding the right people to engage. 17:22 <elopio> it will be a post on the hub, so we need to invite people there to discuss a plan. 17:23 <elacheche> By wiki people you mean Wiki admins or wiki users? x) 17:24 <elacheche> What's the plan? To get rid of the wiki and move to the Hub? 17:24 <elopio> elacheche: I don't know. I guess both, but that's the task, find the people most interested. 17:24 <popey> It isn't a plan 17:24 <popey> It's a discussion 17:24 <elopio> elacheche: no, and that's the wrong way to phrase it :) 17:24 <popey> We _plan_ to have a _discussion_ about what to do about the wiki, open conversation. 17:24 * elacheche likes the Wiki more than the hub :D 17:24 <popey> It's a tricky topic, because there are some people who use the wiki an awful lot. 17:25 <popey> It's possible to like both elacheche :) 17:25 <elopio> elacheche: that's why I thought you might be the right person to find the stakeholders for the discussion. 17:25 <elacheche> I agree with you popey.. I'll find some folks to add to the discussion ;) 17:25 <popey> Sweet! 17:26 <elopio> thanks elacheche! thanks popey! 17:26 <elacheche> All LoCo "rules" are around logging things in the Wiki, by time it became a hard task, huge wiki, and fewer people to contribute.. 17:26 <popey> <3 17:26 <elacheche> All MY* 17:26 <elacheche> I was talking about my LoCo not other ones x) 17:26 <elopio> okay, that's actually all I had for this meeting. On friday 24th, wxl and I will host another ubuntu hour 17:27 <elopio> you are all invited, it will be great to have you there. 17:27 <elopio> more details on the hub, probably tomorrow. 17:27 <elacheche> Thaks elopio ! 17:27 <elopio> anybody else with topics to discuss? ahoneybun are you with us? I'm just seeing your ping now. 17:29 <elacheche> Not me 17:30 <elopio> we can give a few minutes to see if wxl has something to discuss 17:36 <elopio> He doesn't seem to be around. And anyway, we can discuss about everything in the async hub. 17:37 <wxl> back 17:37 <elacheche> Hey wxl :) 17:37 <elopio> hello wxl :) We were waiting to see if you had something to talk about today. 17:38 <wxl> elopio: i haven't read the backlog, but my biggest concern is the LoCo Council 17:39 <elopio> wxl: I started with that. We already have 7 votes, and the voting closes tomorrow. 17:39 <elopio> wxl: does that solve your concern, or is it about something else? 17:39 <flexiondotorg> 7 votes total? 17:39 <wxl> yeah, no, that's good 17:40 <wxl> i just want to make sure it gets DONE! 17:40 <elopio> flexiondotorg: yes. We were confused, and apparently only the community council votes in the loco election. 17:40 <flexiondotorg> So, that is all but Makr I imagine. 17:40 <flexiondotorg> *Mark 17:41 <elopio> wxl: I'll make sure to hit the end button tomorrow. Then, the announcement. Do you want to take care of announcing? 17:41 <elopio> flexiondotorg: that's my guess, but we don't have a way to see who voted. 17:41 <wxl> elopio: sure. as a current member of the council i can help with the transition, too 17:42 <elopio> wxl: great! So, at this time tomorrow is when we announced the deadline. 17:42 <wxl> ok 17:42 <wxl> elopio: so i'll come in tomorrow morning, close the poll, and make the announcement 17:42 <elopio> wxl: yes, thanks! 17:43 <wxl> elopio: i assume that announcement is only going to be on discourse? 17:43 <flexiondotorg> Great. 17:43 <elopio> wxl: in there first. But if you want to put it in the planet, in mailing lists, forums, that would be nice too 17:44 <elopio> tell flexiondotorg and popey to put it in the podcast too :D 17:44 <flexiondotorg> Noted :-) 17:44 <elopio> anything else to talk about, or should we end meeting? 17:44 <flexiondotorg> We've just recorded two episodes, so it won't go in for 2 weeks. 17:45 <wxl> elopio: um how do we put things on the planet? 17:45 <elopio> flexiondotorg: I think the term is for two years, so no hurries right? ;) 17:45 <elopio> wxl: you put it in a blog post, and syndicate the blog post in the planet. 17:45 <wxl> elopio: ah, i meant whether or nto we had a cc blog 17:46 <elopio> wxl: I don't think we have. And I don't think we should have, the category on the hub is a good amount of work already 17:46 <elacheche> Personnal blog post 17:46 <flexiondotorg> Perhaps we can investigate creating an RSS feed from the CC category on the Ubuntu Commumity Hub. 17:47 <flexiondotorg> And syndicating that to Planet. 17:47 <flexiondotorg> Then we have one place to post content. 17:47 <elopio> +1 17:47 <elacheche> +1 17:47 <flexiondotorg> OK, put that down as action for me than :-) 17:48 <flexiondotorg> *then 17:48 <wxl> i think that's a good idea 17:48 <elopio> it will be noted as such on the summary 17:48 <wxl> i don't want to litter my personal blog with cc administravata 17:48 <wxl> on the other hand, it would be nice if i actually published SOMETHING XD 17:49 <elopio> alright, if people need help with their action items, please say it and we'll share the load. 17:49 <flexiondotorg> I'll invetigate what is possible. 17:49 <flexiondotorg> We don't want to spam the planet. 17:49 <flexiondotorg> I have a question If there is nothing else. 17:50 <elopio> go for it 17:50 <flexiondotorg> I love the translation happening on the Ubuntu Community Hub. 17:50 <flexiondotorg> Why are we using shorthand country codes to designate the translation? 17:51 <flexiondotorg> Should we not use long hand language names so it is clear what they are? 17:51 <elopio> flexiondotorg: I thought they were short-hand codes for languages. Like pt-br 17:52 <flexiondotorg> Indeed. But Why not use "Portuguese (Brazilian)" instead of pt-br. 17:52 <elopio> but it's all an experiment. I searched a little on options to make discourse multi-language and they are all kind of bad. Would you prefer, for example español/ instead of es/ ? 17:52 <flexiondotorg> I dout everyone know what the short hand means. 17:52 <wxl> or would it be better to say spanish? 17:52 <flexiondotorg> "Would you prefer, for example español/ instead of es/?" <- Yes :-) 17:52 <wxl> ^^ not serious 17:52 <elopio> flexiondotorg: on a topic, the name of the language will take most of the space. That was my thinking, but I'm happy to try something different. 17:52 <flexiondotorg> I think localised version. 17:53 <elopio> flexiondotorg: ok, will change that in the places I can 17:53 <flexiondotorg> The language can be a sub-heading, so the length is not an issue. 17:54 <elopio> I will try that! 17:54 <elopio> flexiondotorg: one of the not so terrible ideas was to tag the posts with the name of the language. Can you grant me that? https://community.ubuntu.com/t/a-tag-for-spanish-posts/1630 17:55 <flexiondotorg> Yep, I'll do that after this meeting. 17:55 <elopio> thanks 17:56 <elopio> The translation category in the hub is open to discuss about this experiment. 17:56 <elopio> flexiondotorg: oh wait, how do I do a sub-heading? 17:56 <flexiondotorg> Using makrdown. 17:56 <flexiondotorg> # H1 17:56 <flexiondotorg> ## H2 17:56 <flexiondotorg> ### H3 17:56 <flexiondotorg> etc 17:57 <elopio> Ahh, ok. I thought there was something like a subtitle textfield for posts. 17:57 <wxl> or 17:57 <wxl> H! 17:57 <wxl> oops 17:57 <wxl> H1 17:57 <wxl> == 17:57 <wxl> H1 17:57 <wxl> argh 17:57 <wxl> H2 17:57 <wxl> -- 17:57 <elopio> I guess that's ok. It doesn't make a lot of sense to tag them in the title. You either understand the language or you don't :) 17:58 <elopio> I'll start a topic to get this proposal. 17:58 <elopio> ok, we are almost out of time. Say your last words. 17:58 <flexiondotorg> I'll add the tag you've requested as well. 17:59 <flexiondotorg> I've shared my best words with you already ;-) 17:59 <elopio> and it was such an honor! 17:59 <elopio> closing in 5... 17:59 <elopio> 4... 17:59 <elopio> 3... 17:59 <elopio> 2... 17:59 <elopio> 1... 17:59 <elopio> #endmeeting