15:02 <slangasek> #startmeeting
15:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 14 15:02:59 2017 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:03 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
15:03 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke tribaal fginther)
15:03 <slangasek> fginther slangasek tribaal xnox infinity rbalint Odd_Bloke mwhudson rcj tdaitx sil2100 cyphermox philroche bdmurray doko
15:03 <slangasek> fginther: hello!
15:04 <fginther> hello
15:05 <fginther> * Short week due to vacation
15:05 <fginther> * Integrating the linux-azure kernel into daily images.
15:05 <fginther> * Built an updated WSL appx to upload to the windows store
15:05 <fginther> done
15:05 <fginther> slangasek, you're up
15:05 <fginther> Oh one more
15:05 <fginther> * debug a partner networking issue
15:06 <fginther> and done again
15:06 <slangasek> * short week, on vacation all last week
15:06 <slangasek> * [HIGHLIGHT] Ubuntu for containers on Windows released this week!
15:06 <slangasek> * working this week on un-breaking cloud image builds, still down following the launchpad lxd transition
15:06 <slangasek> * chasing autopkgtests for proposed-migration (glibc)
15:06 <slangasek> * working on removing dependencies on initramfs-tools, for minimization of images (LP: #1716825, LP: #1716818, LP: #1713169)
15:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1716825 in plymouth (Ubuntu Zesty) "Remove unnecessary dependency on initramfs-tools" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716825
15:06 <slangasek> (done)
15:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1716818 in mdadm (Ubuntu Xenial) "Remove obsolete versioned dependency on initramfs-tools" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716818
15:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1713169 in apparmor (Ubuntu Xenial) "Remove wrong dependency on initramfs-tools" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1713169
15:06 <Tribaal> * Investigation of docker-on-cloud-images memory usage
15:06 <Tribaal> * Fixing a package upgrade weirdness with grub-legacy-ec2 on xenial images
15:06 <Tribaal> * Various reviews and fixes
15:06 <Tribaal> Done.
15:07 <Tribaal> xnox:
15:07 <xnox> rax / mdadm shutdown bug - introducing iscsi like finalramfs does not appear to help; will request debug shutdown console log.
15:07 <xnox> subiquity - continuing to work on colors and i18n
15:07 <xnox> cloud-images - assisting / debugging / waiting to fix cloud-image building (timeouts on metadata server, LXD/s390x changes, general debugging)
15:07 <xnox> WSL - review fginther appx.
15:07 <xnox> systemd - progress on better resolved integration (not uploaded)
15:07 <xnox> done
15:08 <slangasek> infinity absent
15:08 <slangasek> rbalint:
15:08 <rbalint> * worked on https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/09/13/running-ubuntu-containers-with-hyper-v-isolation/
15:08 <rbalint> * u-u: LP: #1624644 and other bugs
15:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1624644 in update-manager (Ubuntu Artful) "Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1624644
15:08 <rbalint> * moved everything forward in main on http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/ that was not being worked on actively
15:08 <rbalint> * +1-maint: LP: #1715167 (fixing in a different way, still looking for sponsor), #874522 (take patch)
15:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1715167 in nagios-nrpe (Ubuntu) "FTBFS in Artful" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1715167
15:08 <rbalint> (done)
15:08 <Odd_Bloke> * On vacation; back yesterday
15:08 <Odd_Bloke> * Working to get xenial builds in to good shape after lxd builder migration
15:08 <Odd_Bloke> * Getting GCE testing working; need further investigation of potential networking issues
15:08 <Odd_Bloke> (done)
15:09 <slangasek> rcj is traveling
15:09 <slangasek> tdaitx:
15:09 <tdaitx> Short week: sick since Tue night/Wed early morning, recovering
15:09 <tdaitx> * Investigating Debian Bug #874434
15:09 <tdaitx> * Started local rebuilds with OpenJDK 9 as default-jre/jdk
15:09 <tdaitx> * Other: away next week wed-fri
15:09 <ubottu> Debian bug 874434 in src:openjdk-8 "openjdk-8-jre-headless: uninstallable on armhf" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/874434
15:09 <tdaitx> (done)
15:09 <doko> tdaitx: does this affect us as well?
15:10 <sil2100> - Was half-day off on Wednesday
15:10 <sil2100> - Released a new google-cloud-sdk (version 169)
15:10 <sil2100> - DMB meeting:
15:10 <sil2100> * Usual candidate reviews and duties
15:10 <sil2100> * Announcing and onboarding the one new board member (HIGHLIGHT?)
15:10 <sil2100> - Prepared and released update-manager fix for autopkgtest regression
15:10 <sil2100> - Kernel SRU re-spin reviews
15:10 <sil2100> - Add additional fixes to the kernel-sru-review ESM support branch
15:10 <tdaitx> doko, I saw it today, I'm still checking that... need an armhf for that
15:10 <sil2100> - Regular SRU reviews
15:10 <sil2100> - ubuntu-image:
15:10 <sil2100> * Full review and discussion regarding the classic builder branch
15:10 <sil2100> * Prepared and merged some basic man-page documentation of hooks
15:10 <sil2100> - Dealing with mysterious local ssh problems
15:10 <sil2100> - Spinning and re-spinning of ubuntu-core plano images (15.04 based)
15:10 <sil2100> (done)
15:12 <slangasek> cyphermox: around?
15:13 <slangasek> philroche is out
15:13 <slangasek> bdmurray:
15:13 <bdmurray> SRU review of python3.5 again
15:13 <bdmurray> special Zesty SRU release of nova for coreycb
15:13 <bdmurray> special SRU review of livecd-rootfs for X and Z, +2
15:13 <bdmurray> review of plasma-workspace halted phased update / email reply
15:13 <bdmurray> investigation into, fixed phased-updater failure to email sponsees(?)
15:13 <bdmurray> updated test case for xfsprogs (LP: #1696102)
15:13 <bdmurray> reviewed sil2100's MP re: update-manager test failure
15:13 <bdmurray> uploaded zesty, artful fixes for LP: #1676547
15:13 <bdmurray> reported gnome-shell bug re window switching LP: #1716415
15:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1696102 in xfsprogs (Ubuntu Zesty) "xfs/073 test fails with Metadata corruption detected on xfs file system (xfsprogs)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1696102
15:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1676547 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "No network connectivity after upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1676547
15:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1508146 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1716415 Alt+left/right arrows switch between tty consoles (Gnome Shell vanishes), cannot disable" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508146
15:14 <bdmurray> discussion with cyphermox regarding small /boot
15:14 <bdmurray> submitted partman-auto bug re: small /boot (LP: #1716999)
15:14 <bdmurray> emailed TB re DMB election results
15:14 <bdmurray> reviewed rbalint's core developer application
15:14 <bdmurray> submitted bug for TB re fossfreedom packageset (LP: #1716770)
15:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1716999 in partman-auto (Ubuntu) "installer creates rather small /boot partition" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716999
15:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1716770 in ubuntu-community "[TB/DMB] New packageset ~personal-fossfreedom in Artful" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1716770
15:14 <bdmurray> investigation into LP: #1689668 and LP: #1690541
15:14 <bdmurray> dealt with a huge ton of spam / setup a system to handle it
15:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1689668 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Artful) "dialog to resolve config file conflicts can be only one line high" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1689668
15:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1690541 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Scrolled windows in update-manager are too small to read" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1690541
15:14 <bdmurray> ✔ done
15:14 <bdmurray> doko:
15:14 <doko> - worked on the artful museum of llvm-X.Y versions
15:14 <doko> - fixing older gcc's to build in artful
15:14 <doko> - fixing autopkg tests, a lot ...
15:14 <doko> - more maven fixes
15:14 <doko> - fixing build failures
15:14 <doko> - still looking at debug symbols size explosion by a factor of five on arm64 and ppc64el, only seen with llvm
15:14 <doko> builds
15:14 <doko> - been on the GNU Cauldron from Fri-Sun
15:14 <doko> (done)
15:16 <slangasek> any questions on status?
15:16 <sil2100> All good
15:17 <slangasek> conferences seem like they should be highlights for this week
15:17 <slangasek> so, highlight: GNU Cauldron, Linux Plumbers
15:17 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
15:17 <slangasek> bdmurray: bugs to discuss today?
15:17 <bdmurray> bug 1711358 is newly tagged
15:17 <ubottu> bug 1711358 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "20170817 - ISO hangs on boot on qemu with splash screen enabled and qxl graphics driver" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1711358
15:18 <slangasek> [LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:18 <slangasek> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1711358
15:20 <slangasek> bdmurray: I think we should decline that one, at least for Foundations; we don't have the resources to debug the interactions between plymouth and all of the qemu video drivers
15:21 <slangasek> anything else on bugs, then?
15:21 <rbalint> LP: #1439769 would be needed in Trusty, too, IMO, it plays really bad with u-u
15:21 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1439769 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "various linux packages being marked as manually installed, still prevents 'apt-get autoremove' from doing the right thing for kernels" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1439769
15:22 <bdmurray> bug 1619258 is new too
15:22 <ubottu> bug 1619258 in nplan (Ubuntu) "netplan should allow NICs to be disconnected and not stall the boot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1619258
15:22 <xnox> i think that is actually systemd
15:22 <xnox> but maybe not
15:22 <slangasek> rbalint: well, diminishing returns on fixing such things for LTS-1
15:23 <slangasek> users have been dealing with this bug already for 3 years on trusty...
15:27 <slangasek> related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nplan/+bug/1716500
15:27 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1714301 in systemd (Ubuntu Artful) "duplicate for #1716500 systemd-networkd hangs my boot (wireless)" [High,Confirmed]
15:30 <ogra_> hah, xnox beats me on LP 1619258
15:30 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1619258 in nplan (Ubuntu) "netplan should allow NICs to be disconnected and not stall the boot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1619258
15:34 <slangasek> so I think the conclusion is that we do take 1714301 for now, and leave 1619258 incoming until we see if it shakes out from those fixes or if it needs additional attention
15:35 <slangasek> anything else on bugs?
15:35 <ogra_> i think 1619258 is a special case (systemd-networkd in xenial)
15:36 <ogra_> (might indeed be the same issue in the end)
15:36 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
15:36 <slangasek> anything else on not-bugs?
15:37 <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-archive-tools/kernel-sru-review-esm/+merge/330212 <- need some review eyes here ;)
15:37 <doko> slangasek: glibc transition
15:37 <sil2100> Although seeing that I'm the only user of this script, might as well just merge it
15:37 <sil2100> (so far)
15:38 <slangasek> sil2100: is that different than the one apw asked me for review of?
15:38 <sil2100> slangasek: not sure, maybe it's the same - there's only one esm support branch I think
15:38 <doko> asking because I'd like to start a final test rebuild. which issues are essential to address before the migration
15:39 <slangasek> doko: remind me if there's a technical reason that the rebuild test can't include -proposed?
15:39 <sil2100> It's always useful to have someone looking through the code anyway, since when you're in it too long you stop noticing that things look strange
15:40 <slangasek> sil2100: maybe you can get apw to review it :)
15:40 <doko> slangasek: that's not we ship, and afaik that is not possible. for earlier test rebuild I had to do a separate test rebuild for each pocket
15:40 <sil2100> I guess I could! Maybe he'd start using the script as well
15:41 <slangasek> doko: but the normal archive builds always build /against/ -proposed; if we did that for the archive rebuild, that would surely give us what we want
15:41 <doko> no, not the test rebuilds
15:41 <slangasek> doko: and then you could decouple the start of the rebuild from the proposed-migration blockages
15:42 <slangasek> doko: well in any case, I am working on drilling down through the remaining failures
15:42 <slangasek> doko: my goal is EOD
15:42 <doko> sounds good. I'd like to catch cj watson tomorrow to create the test rebuilds before his EOW
15:43 <slangasek> #endmeeting