== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting Meeting, 02 Mar at 16:02 — 16:32 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-03-02-16.02.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Lightning round === The discussion about "Lightning round" started at 16:02. === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 16:29. == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * slangasek (37) * bdmurray (24) * ubottu (18) * caribou (17) * cyphermox (17) * tdaitx (16) * robru (15) * sil2100 (11) * doko (10) * xnox (8) * infinity (8) * barry (8) * chiluk (6) * meetingology (3) * gaughen (3) == Full Log == 16:02 #startmeeting 16:02 Meeting started Thu Mar 2 16:02:00 2017 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:02 16:02 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:02 o/ 16:02 the anticipation is killing me 16:02 whose on first? 16:02 [TOPIC] Lightning round 16:03 $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson) 16:03 sil2100 tdaitx bdmurray infinity doko mwhudson barry slangasek cyphermox xnox caribou chiluk robru 16:03 Oh my 16:03 I win! 16:03 you won sil2100! 16:03 - Sick for most of the week, Mon+Tue off, lower productivity 16:03 - Landing team work, silo coordination 16:03 - SRU reviews 16:03 - Publishing kernel SRUs (f*cked up, those were marked as ready invalidly) 16:03 - Looking at walinuxagent test results, minor tweaks in packaging 16:03 - Looking into ubuntu-image changelog-for-PR functionality 16:03 (done) 16:03 * Short week: holiday on Monday and Tuesday 16:03 = OpenJDK 16:03 * Bug review/test (Debian: #850268, LP: #1314113, LP: #1255821, LP: #1548434, ...) 16:03 = Merges 16:03 * open-vm-tools got merged while I was finishing it (investigating xml-security-c/xmlsec1 dependencies) 16:03 - there were 2 open bugs for the merge, LP: #1651608 and LP: #1666430 16:03 Debian bug 850268 in src:openjdk-8 "Please stop using deprecated GNOME libraries (libgnome-2-0, libgnomevfs2-0, libgconf2-4)" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/850268 16:03 - IIRC the former was set on merges ubuntu, now the later is 16:03 Launchpad bug 1314113 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu) "TLS 1.1 and 1.2 are disabled by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314113 16:03 Launchpad bug 1255821 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment on start-up eclipse in ubuntu-13.04" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1255821 16:03 - created debian bug to Build-Depends on either libssl1.0-dev|libssl-dev (Debian: #856569) to make backporting easier 16:03 Launchpad bug 1548434 in openjdk-8 (Ubuntu) "jmap -heap broken since update to 7u95-2.6.4-0ubuntu0.14.04.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1548434 16:03 Launchpad bug 1666430 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1651608 Please merge open-vm-tools 10.1.0-4449150-3ubuntu1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666430 16:03 - investigating whether xml-security-c can be replaced by xmlsec1 16:03 Launchpad bug 1666430 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) "Please merge open-vm-tools 10.1.0-4449150-3ubuntu1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666430 16:04 * ncurses (ongoing, LP: #1637239) 16:04 Debian bug 856569 in open-vm-tools "open-vm-tools: Depend on either libssl1.0-dev or libssl-dev" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/856569 16:04 = OpenJDK 7 (low priority) 16:04 Launchpad bug 1637239 in ncurses (Ubuntu) "Please merge ncurses 6.0+20160917-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1637239 16:04 * Retesting Mauve after discussion on its mailing list 16:04 = Other 16:04 * Watched Cloud TH newest episode 16:04 * Enjoyed Carnival holidays by setting up new router, organizing my NAS (movies and series), playing Quarriors and City of Horror with friends, all while missing the snow and cold+dry weather 16:04 (done) 16:04 fixed additional issues with the retracers-cache-restart script 16:04 submitted RT to have retracer-charm updated in staging, production 16:04 worked with webops regarding retracer memory upgrade 16:04 automated cassandra-querier reports, setup apache and vpn access 16:04 created snap daemon to clean up old crashes i.e. cronjob 16:04 investigated some missing info in snap crashes 16:04 added outstanding unattended-upgrades MPs to zesty 16:04 sponsored wget patch for X for LP: #1573307 16:04 uploaded backuppc fix for X for LP: #1612600 16:04 Launchpad bug 1573307 in wget (Ubuntu Xenial) "wget crashed with SIGSEGV in __memset_avx2()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1573307 16:04 Launchpad bug 1612600 in backuppc (Ubuntu Xenial) "backuppc 3.3.1-2ubuntu3 breaks pool graphs on the Status page" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1612600 16:04 patch piloting 16:04 modified sru-report to show uploaders lp usernames 16:04 tested subiquity 16:04 ✔ done 16:04 thanks for testing bdmurray! 16:05 - Working on glibc for zesty 16:05 - Working on tzadata for $world 16:05 - Discussions with Steve about minimizing debootstrap set 16:05 - Emergency archive surgery to revert accidental kernel promotions 16:05 - Generic SRU/AA tasks 16:05 (done) 16:05 sil2100: did invalid SRUs actually get published, then? 16:05 Yes 16:05 They did 16:05 Yeah, I'm reverting the world now. 16:06 - rustc updates for zesty (1.15.1) 16:06 - rustc backports for trusty, xenial, yakkety (including cmake, binutils and llvm-3.9 backports) 16:06 - boostrapping rustc for ppc64el trusty 16:06 - binutils 2.28 release 16:06 - packaging of the gcc-7 offload compilers 16:06 - Debian bug squashing party at the weekend (in Berlin), meeting rustc maintainer 16:06 - some merges 16:06 - openjdk-9 update 16:06 - binutils SRU (ppc64el) 16:06 (done) 16:06 i guess we still skip mwhudson 16:06 That's a lesson for me trying to be over-helpful, but to my defence I must say that I have not known before that I am to double-check the sanity of what the kernel team's automation does 16:07 u-i: LP: #1667140; LP: #1625732 (very close, but seeing a very weird difficult to debug failure - anybody wanna help?) 16:07 Launchpad bug 1667140 in Ubuntu Image "Change d/tests to use -O instead of -o" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1667140 16:07 Launchpad bug 1625732 in Ubuntu Image "Add DEP-8 image boot test" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625732 16:07 debuntu: alembic import into dpmt from openstack 16:07 posted python2.7 regression information to python-dev for caribou 16:07 --done-- 16:07 barry: thanks for that 16:07 caribou: np, there are some good thoughts on the mailing list you might want to follow up on 16:08 barry: sure will 16:08 thanks! 16:09 slangasek ? 16:10 * cloud images 16:10 * minimizing the smallest Ubuntu (LP: #1640878, LP: #1668847, et al.) 16:10 * SRU processing 16:10 * proposed-migration hinting/nudging 16:10 Launchpad bug 1640878 in grub2 (Ubuntu Xenial) "grub2 cannot currently generate configuration without initrd" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640878 16:10 (done) 16:10 Launchpad bug 1668847 in live-build (Ubuntu Xenial) "live-build: handle downgrade of package priority in -updates pocket" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1668847 16:10 cyphermox: 16:11 yeah 16:11 - netplan: 16:11 - adding missing STP support 16:11 - fighting spurious autopkgtest failures 16:11 - adding forward-declaration support (request from maas) 16:11 - merge missing MTU support from rharper. 16:11 - subiquity: 16:11 - snapping up subiquity 16:11 - maas setup for rescue mode 16:11 - zesty: 16:11 - looking at a grub fix for bad firmware behavior in some netboot cases 16:11 - ubiquity slideshow update 16:11 - xenial SRUs 16:11 turns out a desktop with only 4gb RAM tends to slow down when you run too many VMs on it 16:11 (done) 16:11 zlib updates landed (after rebuilding/pushing through adt) 16:11 libodb everything verified and all SRUs landed 16:11 fix failure to boot on a cloud 16:11 review cloud-init changes / scoping for another cloud 16:11 triange all outstanding s390x issues - no NEW bugs 16:11 return to debugging bridge_role primary for bootstack 16:11 triange systemd issues - need to prepare an upload with a few bugfixes for zesty 16:11 .. 16:11 bdmurray: have you talked with the snappy team about whether they're going to be providing a systemd timers interface? 16:12 BugFix: 16:12 LP #1638695 : Python performance regression in Xenial 16:12 - Made analysis available, barry send email to python-dev ML 16:12 - Disabling LTO seems to improve things 16:12 Launchpad bug 1638695 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "Python 2.7.12 performance regression" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1638695 16:12 - Running the benchmarks on another arch could be useful 16:12 slangasek: nobody responded to me in #snappy 16:12 ooh and I need to look at the sru report to find out who's surprising on there 16:12 bdmurray: hmm :/ 16:12 LP #1654600 : unattended-upgrades breaks shutdown when /var is FS 16:12 - solution proposed in upstream Debian bug. Will upload to Z & SRU 16:12 - Identification slowed down by what might be another u-u bug 16:12 Launchpad bug 1654600 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "unattended-upgrade-shutdown hangs when /var is a separate filesystem" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1654600 16:13 Dev: 16:13 Sosreport 3.3 trusty SRU 16:13 - Need to FFE for newer upstream release as sos 3.4 is coming shortly 16:13 ☑ Done 16:13 caribou: what other u-u bug? 16:13 bdmurray: UnattendedUpgrade::RunOnShutdown doesn't seem to work as the network is off by the time it runs 16:13 sil2100: yeah, I don't double-check the bug tasks.. that's what their automation is supposed to handle 16:14 * lp 1647389 - Finally got a smaller reproduction environment put together for this. That allowed me to complete my bisection which was previously being held up by openstack not liking my constant replacing of qemu *(i.e. nova crashes, libvirt crashes, etc.). Cherrypick of that patch does not apply cleanly, I'm proceeding to work through back-porting/figuring out if there are any other patches that need to be 16:14 brought in. I have a feeling there will be at least one more patch required before this is complete. However, I finally see the light at the end of the tunnel on this one. 16:14 * Recovered from a disk failure in my raid 5 *(which was also hosting the VM for the above reproducer). 16:14 * DMB approved my core-dev application this week. Thanks for that guys. 16:14 - done - 16:14 Launchpad bug 1647389 in qemu (Ubuntu) "Regression: Live migrations can still crash after CVE-2016-5403 fix" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1647389 16:14 bdmurray: unless I don't understand how it owrks 16:14 * archive maintenance mentoring from cyphermox 16:14 britney 16:14 * Email Policy, emails uploaders when package stuck in proposed (in review) 16:14 * workaround for Source PPA Policy, groups migration of packages from same bileto ticket (needs review, bug #1648000) 16:14 (done) 16:14 bug 1648000 in Launchpad itself "need API to discover where a given package is copied from" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648000 16:15 bdmurray: I have yet to create the LP: bug 16:15 robru: what will happen with stuff already stuck in proposed? will we only get emails about new stickers? 16:16 bdmurray: hmm I did merge your branch, right? why does the sru report not look different 16:16 bdmurray: the current code as written keeps a cache of what it has and hasn't emailed. the first run will see that it hasn't emailed anything and pump out a giant spam for everything that's been stuck for more than a day. after that it'll settle and only email new things that have been sitting for longer than a day. 16:17 bdmurray: oh, it does look different, if I both reload and look at my screen 16:17 slangasek: did you see the surprising results? 16:18 bdmurray: do you mean init-system-helpers? :) 16:18 slangasek: no, the number of things vorlon has unverified. ;-) 16:18 oh are there a number of them? 16:18 robru: will there be an announcement before the spam event? 16:18 guess I should do something about those 16:19 otherwise somebody might nag you! 16:19 well I got the nag mail about init-system-helpers, that's why it's verified now ;) 16:20 robru: could you draft an announcement mail for us to send out before we merge the email policy and make it live? 16:21 slangasek: 16:21 slangasek: sure. will send to you for approval 16:21 robru: Also will the roll-out be for every release of just zesty? 16:22 robru: can you stick it in a google doc so we can collaborate? 16:22 bdmurray: it would be for all releases 16:23 cool 16:23 slangasek: should I maybe make it so that it only emails packages that are 1 <= daysold <= 20 or something? to prevent emailing the dozens that are languishing for years? 16:24 robru: I think we are going to want to do a dry run and see who's getting emailed for what, before we decide; but my sense is that we don't want an upper cap 16:24 anything else on status? 16:24 slangasek: well going forward, all packages would be emailed the day they turn daysold 1. The upper cap would only affect packages that are *already* daysold > 1 16:25 yes 16:25 and I think we do want to email the backlog 16:26 alright 16:26 slangasek: there's no way to do a dry run currently. should I add that? 16:27 robru: doesn't need merged, but at least for a one-off locally I think we want to see who it /would/ email for what 16:27 robru: anyway, we can discuss further outside the meeting 16:27 maybe in the MP :) 16:27 anything else on status? 16:27 slangasek: ok well for a one-off all you have to do is comment out the smtp.send_message and replace it with a self.log(...) 16:28 right 16:29 [TOPIC] AOB 16:29 anything else? 16:29 I want more ram? 16:29 You can't have more RAM. 16:30 CanadaPost is slow. 16:30 i might be sending a long-ish email about this autopkgtest failure i'm seeing. thoughts, feedback would be very welcome ;) 16:32 going once... 16:32 going twice... 16:32 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)