20:03 <elacheche_anis> #startmeeting 20 UTC Membership Board Meeting
20:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Oct  1 20:03:35 2015 UTC.  The chair is elacheche_anis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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20:03 <hikiko--> yes ready :)\
20:03 <elacheche_anis> The wiki page for the Review Board is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards. We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting.
20:03 <elacheche_anis> If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
20:03 <elacheche_anis> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
20:03 <elacheche_anis> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
20:04 <elacheche_anis> #topic hikiko--
20:04 <elacheche_anis> hikiko-- please introduce yourself to the board, and share a link to your LP and wiki
20:04 <elacheche_anis> #voters wxl Kilos PabloRubianes elacheche_anis
20:04 <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos PabloRubianes elacheche_anis wxl
20:04 <elacheche_anis> #votesrequired 4
20:04 <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
20:04 <hikiko--> hello, I’m Eleni, I’m a software engineer @Canonical and I work on the desktop (nux, compiz and unity)
20:05 <wxl> nice to meet you Eleni! :)
20:05 <hikiko--> my wiki page is: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/hikiko
20:05 <elacheche_anis> Welcome hikiko-- :) What can you tell us more about you ?
20:06 <hikiko--> and my lp page: https://launchpad.net/~hikiko
20:06 <hikiko--> hello all\
20:06 <hikiko--> mmm what else
20:06 <hikiko--> I like computer graphics
20:06 <hikiko--> I m writing C++, opengl
20:06 <Kilos> nice to meet you hikiko--
20:06 <wxl> that seems apparent :)
20:07 <wxl> outside of your contributions to the project as part of your job, how else have you been involved with the ubuntu community?
20:08 <hikiko--> I write some blog posts related to Ubuntu (and that’s one of the reasons I’d like to become ubuntu member: add my blog to planet ubuntu so that more people can read it) and I participate to fosscoms etc
20:08 <elacheche_anis> hikiko--: I really LOVED that imgr link! But I can't find any other interesting information in your Wiki, like Testimonials from Community members, and community projects..
20:09 <hikiko--> aren’t compiz, nux and unity community projects?!
20:09 <wxl> absolutely, hikiko ! your contributions are apparent!
20:09 <PabloRubianes> hikiko: any LoCo Work?
20:10 <hikiko--> translations?
20:10 <wxl> you do translations, too?
20:10 <hikiko--> I’ve done 2 in the past (2005 or 2006) I’m not really participating on that sorry
20:11 <elacheche_anis> hikiko--: Yeah those are community projects, but your wiki should show that, it's like a resume or a summary for all that..
20:11 <wxl> tell us about the last FOSSCon you were involved in
20:11 <hikiko--> mmm I was hoping that people could find my contributions on launchpad
20:12 <wxl> hikiko: like he said, it's like a resumé. not so much a list, but a little bit of detail.
20:12 <wxl> although, as a programmer, i understand your logic XD
20:12 <hikiko--> I’ve been to several of them and this year I m going to make a presentation on compiz and how people can contribute and write plugins from scratch
20:12 <wxl> wow! at which one?
20:12 <hikiko--> in our local fosscomm in greece
20:13 <wxl> oh cool, i wasn't clear if you were still in greece or not
20:13 <wxl> is there a large ubuntu community there?
20:13 <Kilos> hikiko-- you should put all that in your wiki
20:13 <Kilos> your wiki page is where you sell your slf
20:13 <wxl> i think it's clear we need to better define what should be on the wiki
20:13 <Kilos> self
20:14 <hikiko--> well, it’s large compared to other oss communities but we don’t have large communities in greece :)
20:14 <elacheche_anis> hikiko--: I'm interested to get a video link to that presentation :) I'll be happy if oyu ping me after the FOSSCOMM :)
20:14 <hikiko--> sure elacheche_anis :)
20:14 <wxl> i agree with elacheche_anis, but i'd recommend also putting that on your wiki too
20:15 <hikiko--> I will put it in my blog
20:15 <PabloRubianes> hikiko: is there any reason you have no testimonials on your wiki?
20:15 <wxl> anything you do to promote ubuntu should go there
20:15 <PabloRubianes> maybe you didn't ask for them
20:15 <hikiko--> I have other presentations too and tutorials
20:15 <PabloRubianes> ?
20:15 <hikiko--> well I asked people for testimonials
20:15 <elacheche_anis> hikiko--: I say it again & again, I really love and appreciate what you do for the community.. But you miss 2/4 from the application requirements → https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember#Preparing_your_Application
20:15 <hikiko--> and some of them said they will write
20:15 <hikiko--> but they didn’t so...
20:16 <elacheche_anis> I feel you hikiko-- :)
20:17 <hikiko--> ok robert_ancell will write one :D
20:17 <hikiko--> thanks robert_ancell !!
20:17 <robert_ancell> mkay
20:17 <wxl> do you havea a lot of interactions with other ubuntu users/members/contributors outside of the ones you interact with for work?
20:18 <hikiko--> mmm there are always people that ask for help in #ubuntu-desktop or #compiz or in lp
20:18 <hikiko--> and we provide support
20:19 <wxl> so you provide irc support, hikiko ?
20:19 <hikiko--> but yes thats mostly work
20:19 <wxl> is there a loco in greece?
20:20 <hikiko--> I think so, there is #ubuntu-gr on freenode and some translating teams
20:20 <wxl> yeah i think #ubuntu-gr is for irc support in greek
20:21 <wxl> oh i'm wrong
20:21 <wxl> that's their loco channel too :)
20:21 <wxl> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-gr/
20:21 <wxl> have you tried to connect with them at all?
20:21 <wxl> correct
20:22 <wxl> that question from me was for you hikiko :)
20:22 <hikiko--> well I know most of them
20:22 <hikiko--> let me ask them to give some testimonials :p
20:22 <Kilos> good idea
20:22 <wxl> it looks like they're involved in the fosscomms too
20:22 <elacheche_anis> Good idea hikiko-- :)
20:22 <wxl> you should join the loco team!
20:22 <wxl> it sounds like you're already working with them anyways!
20:23 <PabloRubianes> LoCo teams usualy lack of strong tecnical people
20:23 <wxl> absolutely!!!!
20:23 <wxl> they desperately need them
20:23 <elacheche_anis> So true.. You should try to get involved with them..
20:23 <wxl> i can't read a word of greek but it seems like they're active
20:23 <elacheche_anis> Are we good for vote, or there is more questions?
20:24 <wxl> well it sounds like she's rounding up testimonials
20:24 <Kilos> im in no hurry
20:25 <wxl> oh wow they have ubuntu hours http://ubuntu-gr.org/story/30-06-15/ubuntu-hour-%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF-%CE%B8%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%BF
20:26 <wxl> ugh greek doesn't render into urls well apparently
20:26 <hikiko--> in greece it’s 23:26
20:26 <hikiko--> so there’s no much chance anyone replies
20:27 <Kilos> aw
20:30 <hikiko--> well, nobody replies :) I guess I can’t be an ubuntu member without testimonials right?
20:31 <Kilos> sec hikiko--
20:31 <Kilos> we will be with you soon
20:31 <hikiko--> nooo\
20:31 <elacheche_anis> Just a sec hikiko-- :)
20:31 <Kilos> soory for the wait
20:31 <hikiko--> I have one!!!
20:31 <hikiko--> ok ok I wait but I have robert_ancell’s :D
20:31 <elacheche_anis> Congrtas for that Testimonial hikiko-- :D
20:32 <hikiko--> thanks again robert!!
20:32 <robert_ancell> np
20:35 <elacheche_anis> hikiko--: we still here :) Just seconds and will come back x) sorry for that :)
20:36 <hikiko--> no worries :)
20:39 <popey> hello
20:39 <popey> sorry, i was afk
20:39 <elacheche_anis> #voters popey
20:39 <meetingology> Current voters: Kilos PabloRubianes elacheche_anis popey wxl
20:39 <Kilos> HI popey
20:39 * popey catches up
20:39 <popey> hi Kilos
20:39 <hikiko--> hi popey
20:41 <elacheche_anis> hikiko--: Work in progress :D
20:41 <popey> I'd like to see a more comprehensive wiki page
20:41 <hikiko--> no problem elacheche_anis
20:41 <popey> we usually like to see more detail, and more testimonials typically
20:42 <popey> loving your changes to nux/unity/compiz though :D
20:42 <popey> I do wonder if maybe you're more likely to get membership via MOTU
20:42 <popey> We usually direct developers that way.
20:42 <hikiko--> what is the MOTU?
20:42 <popey> You still get membership, but via a different route
20:42 <popey> Masters Of The Universe
20:43 <popey> Basically people who do predominantly development work
20:43 <popey> as opposed to community outreach and advocacy
20:43 <popey> Because there's a clear record of your development work
20:43 <wxl> …the latter of which tends to be what we field
20:43 <popey> So it should be a 'slam dunk' as they say in the USA :D
20:44 <hikiko--> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU this motu?
20:44 <popey> yes
20:44 <popey> Check this out too. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard
20:45 <popey> Does that seem more appropriate?
20:45 <hikiko--> yes :) thanks popey
20:46 <wxl> sorry for detaining you so long about this whole thing hikiko--
20:46 <wxl> and thank you so much for all of your contributions!
20:46 <popey> yeah, I'm terribly sorry for being late.
20:46 <hikiko--> so, should I give up for the ubuntu membership and try to apply for the developer membership or it’s fine to apply for both?
20:46 <Kilos> sorry hikiko-- keep up the good work and popin here now and again for a chat
20:46 <popey> I'd go for developer membership
20:46 <popey> it seems more appropriate
20:46 <wxl> hikiko--: the dev board can approve you for ubuntu membership
20:47 <Kilos> if you still want membership  here
20:47 <elacheche_anis> If this can count as a good thing hikiko-- this is a 1st time we have all this discussion about 1 person that we realy want to approve but we can't becasue of rules..
20:47 <popey> and they can review your work (better than any of us can) :D
20:47 <Kilos> fix your wiki page
20:47 <hikiko--> ok :) thank you
20:47 <popey> Sorry for the confusion.
20:47 <Kilos> add everything in it and reapply
20:47 <popey> hikiko--: awesome.
20:47 <hikiko--> no problem
20:47 <popey> Super. Sorry for keeping you up late.
20:48 <popey> Ok, any other topics to discuss?
20:48 <Kilos> and hikiko-- hope to see you back here soon
20:48 <wxl> i'm making a list of improvements from the previous discussion that i'll email out, so no popey. we can continue on there
20:48 <hikiko--> sure Kilos thank you all :)
20:48 <wxl> thank you so much hikiko-- !
20:48 <elacheche_anis> OK, so just for the meetingology records, we are skipping votes becasue hikiko-- needs to apply for the Ubuntu Devel Membership
20:48 <Kilos> :)
20:49 <elacheche_anis> Keep the GREAT work hikiko--!
20:50 <Kilos> hikiko-- look at other members wiki pages for some ideas on that is needed
20:50 <elacheche_anis> Ping me when you apply for the Ubuntu Devel Membership, I'll be happy to say a HUGE CONGRATUALTIONS to you!
20:50 <wxl> ditto hikiko--
20:50 <Kilos> ditto elacheche_anis
20:50 <wxl> i'd be more than happy to review your application
20:50 <hikiko--> thank you guys I will apply soon!
20:51 <PabloRubianes> cheers hikiko
20:51 <Kilos> ty hikiko--
20:51 <elacheche_anis> We probably should eng the meeting as there is no more applications for tonight!
20:51 <elacheche_anis> #endmeeting