15:01 <slangasek> #startmeeting 15:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 11 15:01:59 2015 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:01 <meetingology> 15:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:02 * sil2100 still prepares his notes 15:02 * jodh feels the irony of mumble choosing to play up today of all days. 15:02 <pitti> I greeted in mumble, but I've never heard anyone else speak 15:02 <pitti> admittedly I just dusted it off after not using it for a year or more 15:03 <slangasek> welcome, pitti :) 15:03 * pitti waves to his new team mates 15:03 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round 15:03 * slangasek fixes up his shuf command 15:03 <doko> hopefully pitti remembers short status updates, and doesn't compete with jodh ;p 15:04 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti) 15:04 <slangasek> doko barry stgraber pitti cyphermox infinity sil2100 caribou jodh bdmurray slangasek robru 15:04 <pitti> TBH I haven't prepared anything, I don't know yet how your meeting looks like 15:04 <slangasek> doko: you can show him how it's done 15:04 <sil2100> Phew, still some time... 15:05 <slangasek> pitti: summarize the past week's work (and upcoming week's plans) in the channel; ask questions about others' activity as appropriate; then any other discussion topics 15:05 <doko> - verified SRU's for trusty, gcc-4.8 and binutils 15:05 <doko> - investigate ARM gcc ICE 15:05 <doko> - looking at binutils issue building the kernel on ppc64el 15:05 <doko> - look into building GCC binaries and libraries with -z relro 15:05 <doko> - fix cantor build failures, autopkg test fixes 15:06 <doko> - installing a new toy, which arrived today (tp x250, 16gb ram, two ssd's) 15:06 <doko> (done) 15:06 <infinity> Yay, toys. 15:06 <barry> debuntu: boatloads of uploads: nose2_0.5.0-2, flufl.bounce_2.3-2, flufl.lock_2.3.1-2, lazr.config_2.1-1 (and debian bug #786516), python-daemon_2.0.5-1 (review & sponsored), zope.schema_4.4.2-2, cov-core_1.15.0-1, python-iso8601_0.1.10-2, lazr.delegates_2.0.2-1, lazr.smtptest_2.0.3-1, pytest-instafail_0.3.0-1, zope.contenttype_4.1.0-1, zope.browser_2.1.0-1, zope.exceptions_4.0.7-2, zope.component_4.2.2-1, zope.event_4.0.3-3, 15:06 <barry> zope.testing_4.2.0-1, zope.hookable_4.0.4-4, zope.deprecation_4.1.2-1, zope.configuration_4.0.3-3, zope.location_4.0.3-2, zope.i18nmessageid_4.0.3-2, debian bug #776026 (reproducible wheel files; mp upstream, needs refinement), debian bug #788383 (better devendorization for requests - tested upstream patch in debian package), singledispatch_3.4.0.3-2, gtimelog_0.9.2-1, LP: #1324391. also, dist-upgrade bisected wily regression and 15:06 <barry> reported LP: #1462398 15:06 <ubottu> Debian bug 786516 in python-lazr.config-doc "python-lazr.config-doc contains pybuild files" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/786516 15:06 <ubottu> Debian bug 776026 in src:wheel "wheel: please make whl files reproducible" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/776026 15:06 <ubottu> Debian bug 788383 in python-requests "python-requests: Better devendorization" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/788383 15:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1324391 in python-pip (Ubuntu Trusty) "pip 1.5.4 import an invalid dependencies " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1324391 15:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1462398 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "wily boot is completely frozen" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462398 15:06 <barry> si: LP: #1463061. also reviewed and landed s-i server branch for sil2100 (LP: #1459371). general s-i server work and start of documentation. 15:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1463061 in Ubuntu system image "Please report errors via --progress as well" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1463061 15:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1459371 in Canonical System Image "The channel ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en for device vegetahd appears to have no delta images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1459371 15:07 <barry> other: python issue #24351 (string.Template) 15:07 <barry> upcoming: among other things, i'll be starting to work on the python3.5 transition plan 15:07 <barry> --done-- 15:07 <stgraber> - Was out Friday and Wednesday, will be out tomorrow too. Back to normal on Monday. 15:07 <stgraber> - LXC/LXD 15:07 <stgraber> - Released LXD 0.11 on Tuesday, uploaded to archive, PPAs, ... 15:07 <stgraber> - Tracking down what looks like a regression in Go 1.4 (breaks LXD over unix socket) 15:07 <stgraber> - Code reviews, bug triaging, other admin paperwork 15:07 <stgraber> (done) 15:08 <pitti> (just scribbled together in a hurry, not that much detail) 15:08 <pitti> DONE: land systemd 220, fix umockdev and python-dbusmock to work with it, fix some fallout bugs and reverse test regressions 15:08 <pitti> DONE: new psql microreleases for all supported releases 15:08 <pitti> DONE: boot related bug triage/fixes 15:08 <pitti> DONE: research/refine proposal for persistant network interface names, send to (u|d)-devel 15:08 <pitti> PLAN: want to land ^ (ifnames) next week 15:08 <pitti> PLAN: start integration of ifup.d scripts into networkd (core-1505-networkd-vs-ifupdown) 15:08 <pitti> [done] 15:08 <slangasek> cyphermox is off this week 15:08 <slangasek> infinity: 15:09 <infinity> - Kernel SRU wrangling 15:09 <infinity> - General SRU/AA stuff 15:09 <infinity> - Reviewed and accepted the X HWE stack 15:09 <infinity> - Started looking into 14.04->14.04 upgrade bug (LP: #1452238) 15:09 <infinity> - Looking at weird tzdata/tzcode bug with Marc (LP: #1462052) 15:09 <infinity> (done) 15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1452238 in apt (Ubuntu) "Failed to upgrade system from 14.04" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1452238 15:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1462052 in glibc (Ubuntu) "timezone handling regression in glibc 2.21" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462052 15:09 <sil2100> uh, me I guess? 15:09 <sil2100> - Shorter week due to holidays on Tue/Fri 15:09 <sil2100> - Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails 15:09 <sil2100> - Short Patch Pilot session: 15:09 <sil2100> * libg15, uploading new version with a patch for suspend/resume 15:09 <sil2100> * Looking into the udisks2 SRU request - confusing 15:09 <sil2100> * libusb - reviewing a patch, preparing for upload (waiting for a test case) 15:09 <sil2100> - RTM status meetings and discussions 15:09 <sil2100> - Quickfix - preparing the snapshot PPA for OTA-4 due to missing auto-PPA-snapshotting 15:09 <sil2100> - Quickfix - helping out with langpack manual updates 15:09 <sil2100> - Preparing an OTA-4 exclusive image in 14.09-factory-proposed (with issues) 15:10 <sil2100> - CI Train fix for no syncs for non-train packages 15:10 <sil2100> - A quick style-fix for S-I server branch for delta generation 15:10 <sil2100> - Work on re-writing commitlog code to work with new channels 15:10 <sil2100> * Re-writing everything, making it better and independent of any external scripts 15:10 <sil2100> - Documentation changes and updates 15:10 <sil2100> - Starting the discussion related to overlay vs. derived-distro once again 15:10 <sil2100> - Helping out upstreams with packaging issues and FTBFS 15:10 <sil2100> (done) 15:10 <caribou> Bugfix: 15:10 <caribou> - Ceph interference during kdump-tools execution (Bug: 1461429) 15:10 <ubottu> bug 1461429 in ceph (Ubuntu Trusty) "ceph-osd early start interferes with kdump-tools during kernel dump" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461429 15:10 <caribou> * Uploaded upstart job for kdump-tools to Debian/Sid 15:10 <caribou> * Will SRU to Trusty once in Wily 15:10 <caribou> - rsyslog merge 15:10 <caribou> - Identified spotify-client bug on Wily 15:10 <caribou> (done) 15:11 <jodh> * snappy - selftests. 15:11 <jodh> * misc: 15:11 <jodh> - Out Wednesday PM. 15:11 <jodh> - My last meeting evar today :( 15:11 <jodh> ??? 15:11 * pitti hugs jodh 15:12 <bdmurray> continued to work on improvements to apport-retrace to check launchpad for packages not available in archive or on ddebs.u.c 15:12 <bdmurray> testing of apport-retrace which uses LP with sample crashes 15:12 <bdmurray> testing apport-retrace with an overlay-ppa package crash 15:12 <bdmurray> daisy r646 - Move package origin check into daisy/utils.py and set packages from the ci-train-ppa-service to retraceable. 15:12 <bdmurray> fixed a daisy crash when writing retrace failure reasons 15:12 <bdmurray> submitted RT to have staging / production versions of daisy updated 15:12 <bdmurray> updated fetch-crashes to delete existing crash files before getting new ones to submit 15:12 <bdmurray> reported apport bug (LP: #1462469) regarding sandboxutil.py exiting 0 instead of 1 15:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1462469 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-retrace strangely exits with 0 return code" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462469 15:12 <bdmurray> reported apport bug LP: #1462491 (stacktrace source often has errors) 15:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1462491 in apport (Ubuntu) "StacktraceSource contains errors instead of source code" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462491 15:12 <bdmurray> sorted out issues with my canonistack setup (downed hosts) 15:12 <bdmurray> ✔ done 15:12 <infinity> jodh: I like your optimism, but I suspect you have many meetings in your future, just not with us. :P 15:13 <slangasek> infinity: bug #1452238 - are you on top of this, then? jdstrand escalated it to me this morning, should I assign to you? 15:13 <ubottu> bug 1452238 in apt (Ubuntu) "Failed to upgrade system from 14.04" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1452238 15:13 <slangasek> sil2100: has the delta generation branch landed on nusakan? 15:14 <sil2100> slangasek: not sure, it got merged I think but not sure if anyone bzr pulled it in yet 15:14 <infinity> slangasek: Yeah, assign it to me, I'll spend some time today experimenting. 15:14 <slangasek> sil2100: ok; can you remind me the bug number? 15:14 <slangasek> infinity: ok, thanks 15:14 <barry> it did get merged 15:14 <barry> sil2100, slangasek trunk should have the fix now 15:15 * barry does not have access to nusakan 15:15 <sil2100> slangasek: LP: #1459371 15:15 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1459371 in Canonical System Image "The channel ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en for device vegetahd appears to have no delta images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1459371 15:15 <sil2100> I can bzr pull it 15:15 <sil2100> The importer is off so it should be safe 15:16 <slangasek> * various system-image server management tasks; first ubuntu-personal channel is now being set up 15:16 <slangasek> * planning team conference attendance for the summer 15:16 <slangasek> * discussions around juju go requirements 15:16 <slangasek> * discussions about python3.5 as default for 15.10 15:16 <slangasek> * uploads of some python3 transitions that were fix-committed (update-notifier, xdiagnose, gconf) 15:16 <slangasek> * new version of SecureBoot shim signed and uploaded to wily; will be SRUed back to all releases once it's gotten some burn-in testing 15:16 <slangasek> * various bits of work related to team changes 15:16 <slangasek> (done) 15:16 <barry> sil2100: once you pull it, can you close the Canonical System Image bug task and fix release the Ubuntu system image one? 15:16 <robru> * CI Train Mojo Spec: 15:16 <robru> - defined new postgres instance for bileto 15:16 <robru> - various iterations integrating postgres into train spec. 15:16 <robru> * Bileto: 15:16 <robru> - added postgres support, several iterations thereof 15:16 <robru> - added API token support so jenkins can push status updates in 15:16 <robru> * Bileto charm: 15:16 <robru> - generate API token at deploy time 15:16 <robru> - change bileto from running as root to running as www-data 15:16 <slangasek> sil2100: well the importer needs to not be off for very long, so I'm not sure that matters to safety ;) 15:16 <robru> - Implement db-relation-changed hook so bileto can connect to postgres, and several iterations to get that working 15:16 <robru> * CI Train: 15:16 <robru> - coordinated with #webops on emergency production redeployment in ps4.5, verified various deployment details before approving DNS cutover; identified various firewall issues and reported them to #webops for fixing. 15:16 <robru> - fixed charm to correctly report rsyncd port opening so #webops won't need to cowboy the firewall in the future. 15:16 <robru> * systemd-shim: 15:17 <slangasek> sil2100: did you pull it just now? the branch is currently up to date 15:17 <sil2100> slangasek: yes 15:17 <sil2100> slangasek: I didn't enable the importer yet as I asked a question on -ci-eng ;) 15:18 <pitti> robru: oh, are you now working on systemd-shim? 15:18 <sil2100> e.g. if I enable the importer now and make the channel automatic, it will probably pull in the snapshot rootfs, right? 15:18 <robru> pitti: no, it was just a one-off thing. 15:18 <slangasek> sil2100: let's leave it disabled for now until we can discuss it after the meeting 15:19 <sil2100> ACK 15:19 <pitti> robru: (you might have missed to c&p a line or two); thanks, I was just curious 15:19 <slangasek> robru: was '* systemd-shim:' the end? 15:19 <robru> slangasek: no I pasted more than that, I don't know why it didn't come through, hang on 15:19 <robru> 08:16:37 <robru> * systemd-shim: 15:19 <robru> 08:16:37 <robru> - fixed version conflict between vivid stable-phone-overlay and wily archive due to buggy train sync 15:19 <robru> 08:16:37 <robru> (done) 15:20 <robru> pitti: the systemd-shim thing was just me cleaning up a broken version number caused by the train 15:21 <slangasek> ok 15:21 <bdmurray> robru: was a search done for other issues like that? 15:22 <robru> bdmurray: not by me. presumably slangasek did since he found this issue in the first place 15:22 <slangasek> robru: no, I found it because bdmurray told me about it ;) 15:22 <bdmurray> lol 15:22 <robru> awesome 15:23 <slangasek> a search, by someone who can manipulate the launchpad api better than me, would be: look at all packages in the stable-phone-overlay ppa; find packages of the same name and version in the main archive; check if they're the same 15:25 <slangasek> robru: do you want to take a shot at doing that search? 15:26 <slangasek> (after the train has been fixed to disable any further broken syncs) 15:26 <sil2100> The fix is approved 15:26 <robru> slangasek: I guess I could poke at that 15:26 <robru> slangasek: yeah sil2100's fix is good 15:26 <slangasek> robru: thanks 15:26 <slangasek> any other questions re: status this week? 15:27 <sil2100> I still want to give it a spin in the staging maybe, and maybe some small style changes as per robru's comments (didn't have time for those yet) 15:28 <robru> sil2100: I don't think it really needs staging, your test coverage was so thorough I'm quite confident in it 15:28 <robru> also it's a simple change 15:28 <sil2100> Yeah, ok, then maybe just those small changes, I'll be done in a minute, just need to finish up all the other strange things 15:29 <slangasek> [TOPIC] conferences 15:30 <slangasek> as I mentioned, I'm in the process of sorting out conference travel for the next few months 15:30 <slangasek> if you're expecting to attend a conference this summer and I haven't already talked to you about it, you might want to ping me to make sure it's on my radar 15:30 <pitti> slangasek: FTR, I told msm that I don't go to plumber's (i. e. cancel/transfer my registration), and attend debconf instead (already self-registered) 15:31 <slangasek> pitti: ok - I'll double-check that this is reflected in the SpreadSheetsOfTravel 15:31 <slangasek> [TOPIC] team changes 15:31 <pitti> slangasek: I updated the debconf spreadsheet, I didn't see the plumbers one 15:32 <slangasek> you may have noticed a few changes in the meeting attendance (current and impending) 15:32 <infinity> slangasek: It was suggested by the powers that be in glibc that I should be at GNU Tools Cauldron, but no idea if it's full already. 15:33 <slangasek> we bid a fond farewell to jodh today 15:33 <slangasek> we wish him well in his next endeavors 15:33 <barry> jodh: good luck and keep in touch! 15:33 <slangasek> there will be a brief reception in the lobby outside the IRC channel after this meeting 15:34 <slangasek> cookies and punch etc 15:34 * pitti orders a virtual beer for jodh and everyone else 15:34 <slangasek> also, you may have noticed that mvo is changing roles within Canonical 15:34 <infinity> pitti's buying for everyone? I like this guy. 15:34 <doko> virtually ... 15:34 <infinity> doko: Shh, don't ruin the fantasy. In my mind, I'm already drunk. 15:35 <jodh> slangasek: thanks steve! I've enjoyed my time in the team enormously, and will truly miss infinity's jokes :) 15:35 <slangasek> with the recent reorg, there's now a Snappy team being stood up formally, and mvo has a role to play on that team 15:35 <barry> infinity: that explains a lot 15:35 <slangasek> jodh: he tells jokes!? 15:35 <jodh> slangasek: buy him a beer and he does anything... I heard... 15:35 <infinity> jodh: Just remember: never try on pants when doko's in the same city. 15:35 <ogra_> *anything* ! 15:36 <doko> ogra hears beer and wakes up ... 15:36 <ogra_> +1 15:36 <ogra_> i highlight on "beer" (and double highlight on "free beer" ) 15:36 <slangasek> so unfortunately this means mvo will not be with us in Foundations anymore, since being the Snappy team tech lead is a full-time gig - this is basically formalization of the role he's already been playing on the Snappy side for the past few months 15:36 <jodh> infinity: I will pass on this good advice down the generations. 15:36 <infinity> jodh: Good man. 15:36 <slangasek> on the other hand, we have a pitti! 15:37 <doko> ohh, does pitti join MIR again then? ;-P 15:37 <infinity> Yeah, and pitti showed up to the meeting. mvo didn't even come to let us say goodbye. Boo. 15:37 <slangasek> the https://launchpad.net/~we-love-pitti and https://launchpad.net/~canonical-foundations will be officially merged, more details to follow 15:37 <slangasek> oh wait, that part may not be exactly true 15:37 <pitti> I tried to forget about w-l-p.. 15:37 <stgraber> :) 15:38 <slangasek> what's with the team icon? I don't remember that picture being there :) 15:38 <infinity> pitti: They have meetings every fortnight, with candles and chanting. 15:38 <barry> https://youtu.be/FsTalWYX0t8?t=38s 15:38 * jodh hands the flaming unicode batton to pitti and hopes he'll keep the tradition alive! 15:38 <doko> ugh, does everybody have to have groopies to work in foundations? 15:38 <pitti> slangasek: ah, I think that was from the party night in Kopenhagen, no? 15:38 <infinity> doko: Clearly not, since you work here. 15:39 <slangasek> pitti: it looks like it - I just don't remember that picture being on there and it's too small to get a good look :) 15:39 <pitti> jodh: you still need to reveal that secret to me, barry was already pointing that out! 15:39 <slangasek> anyway 15:39 <slangasek> lots of changes to the team, all at a sudden! 15:39 <sil2100> Oh, I wasn't aware of the we-love-pitti team! 15:40 * sil2100 needs to subscribe 15:40 * jodh grabs a fresh batch of rubber chickens and sharpens his leatherman in preparation... 15:40 <slangasek> if anyone has questions about these changes, "my door is open" 15:40 <robru> sil2100: I've been in that one for a while, lol 15:40 <pitti> jodh: I'll get the hemp and cauldron 15:40 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB 15:41 <slangasek> not your usual quiet Foundations meeting today ;) 15:41 <sil2100> Indeed ;) 15:41 <slangasek> but is there anything else anyone wants to cover? 15:42 <slangasek> going... 15:42 <slangasek> going... 15:42 <slangasek> #endmeeting