17:02 <dholbach> #startmeeting 17:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 5 17:02:11 2015 UTC. The chair is dholbach. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 17:02 <meetingology> 17:02 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 17:02 <dholbach> #chair czajkowski elfy 17:02 <meetingology> Current chairs: czajkowski dholbach elfy 17:02 <dholbach> how are we all doing? 17:02 <dholbach> looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda it looks like we're meeting up with the IRC Council today 17:02 <mhall119> hello everyone 17:02 <dholbach> #chair mhall119 17:02 <meetingology> Current chairs: czajkowski dholbach elfy mhall119 17:02 <dholbach> do we have anyone from the IRC Council here? 17:03 * mhall119 doesn't see IRC council on that wiki page 17:04 <dholbach> mhall119, 5th March 17:04 <mhall119> ah, nvm me, there it is 17:04 <dholbach> :) 17:04 <mhall119> just not in the table 17:04 <dholbach> yeah, it wasn't updated 17:04 <elfy> no-one reminded them - I pinged irc-ops this morning and mailed them later 17:05 <dholbach> Pici, Tm_T, elky, hggdh: anyone of you there? 17:05 <dholbach> flanell doesn't seem to be in #u-meeting 17:06 <dholbach> if not, we might have to reschedule 17:06 <elfy> Tm_T wasn't sure if he could make it with travelling 17:06 <mhall119> did we have anyone else on the schedule for today? 17:06 <elfy> mhall119: nope that's it 17:07 <dholbach> ok.. I can take an action to mail the IRC Council to reschedule 17:07 <dholbach> and we can open the floor to other business? 17:08 <elfy> yep - works for me 17:08 <dholbach> cool 17:08 <dholbach> #topic Any other business 17:09 <dholbach> there's the membership nomination period going on right now - do we need to start another call for nominees or something? 17:10 <elfy> got done 2 weeks ago - might be useful to catch membership board to see if they've had any response 17:11 <dholbach> ok 17:12 <czajkowski> cool 17:12 <dholbach> DMB got done 17:12 <dholbach> are there other boards/councils restaffing now or soon? 17:12 <elfy> loco is in hand 17:13 <elfy> then all clear till the wibbly wobbly whinocewos cycle 17:13 <dholbach> ok, in terms of the loco council, do we need to do anything? 17:14 * dholbach just mailed the Membership boards as well 17:15 <elfy> dholbach: don't think so 17:15 <dholbach> ok cool 17:15 <dholbach> I know I still have to participate in the CC interviews :) 17:15 * mhall119 casts his vote for wibbly wobbly whinocewos 17:16 <elfy> bad bad dholbach :p 17:16 <dholbach> are there any other work items we need to look at now? 17:16 <Pici> I'm sort of here, but doing work stuff as well... I'd prefer that we reschedule so that some others can attend to. 17:16 <Pici> too 17:16 <mhall119> UOS is coming up, we should think about what we want to do in terms of sessions and getting others in the community to participate and propose sessions 17:17 * cprofitt waves 17:17 <elfy> Pici: ok :) 17:17 <mhall119> hi Pici 17:17 <Pici> hi! 17:17 <elfy> hi cprofitt :) 17:17 <cprofitt> hello elfy 17:17 <dholbach> mhall119, nice one! 17:17 <dholbach> Pici, makes sense 17:17 <dholbach> and hi! 17:18 <dholbach> mhall119, how do we best organise this? just do a call for sessions, maybe on the community list? 17:19 <mhall119> dholbach: that, but maybe we should also contact each of the different councils directly and encourage them to have their own plans for recruiting and running sessions 17:19 <cprofitt> dholbach: community list, fridge and planet? 17:19 <cprofitt> +1 mhall119 17:20 <dholbach> yes, makes sense 17:20 <mhall119> dholbach: please do me a favor and include an appeal for track lead volunteers in whatever is sent out 17:20 <mhall119> people interested in being a track lead can contact me directly 17:21 <elfy> perhaps we should think about those teams that have told us "getting people involved is an issue" 17:21 <elfy> then see if we can get someone from those to run a session 17:21 <elfy> or rather point them in the right direction 17:21 <cprofitt> I like that idea a lot elfy 17:21 <mhall119> yeah, we might need to be pro-active and help them make that happen 17:22 <cprofitt> perhaps having them hold a session about their team would help 17:22 <dholbach> mhall119, I didn't agree to send something out yet :-P 17:22 <mhall119> ok, so we need a doc where we can start putting this list together 17:22 <cprofitt> we can offer some advice and assistance in making the session happen as well 17:22 <mhall119> dholbach: I'm pretty sure you did :-P 17:22 <dholbach> your jedi mind tricks don't work today :-P 17:22 <elfy> mhall119: a pad would do 17:23 <dholbach> I like the idea of the pad 17:23 <cprofitt> dholbach says, this is not the community team member you are looking for. mhall119 looks the other way. 17:24 <mhall119> elfy: and all: http://pad.ubuntu.com/PkXURXDKrM 17:24 <mhall119> cprofitt: his german mind-tricks have to affect on me 17:29 <dholbach> anything else we need to do in terms of UOS planning? 17:29 <mhall119> "we" being the community council, I don't think so 17:29 <dholbach> ok 17:29 <mhall119> "we" being you and I on the community team, yeah, lots 17:30 <dholbach> haha, yes :) 17:30 <cprofitt> I think the CC should really encourage teams to get involved from a team level 17:30 <mhall119> +1 17:31 <cprofitt> I am also curious if we should allow sessions to be run at any time vs. setting times for them 17:31 <elfy> well ... it never really worked for one team I'm involved with and the other it's just unlikely to ever happen 17:31 <mhall119> Summit doesn't really support ad-hoc scheduling 17:31 <cprofitt> with it being online it might make sense to open that up so people who can not attend due to time restrictions (work, sleep, etc) can attend. 17:31 <elfy> mhall119: and that's mostly the problem imo 17:32 * mhall119 welcomes somebody to come in and replace Summit with something better 17:32 * elfy always wonders how many are missing because it IS 2am where they are 17:33 <cprofitt> mhall119: I wasn't talking about ad-hoc, but the ability to schedule things in a larger window than the typical 8 hour summit bloc. That window made sense when were gathered in a physical location, but less now that it is virutal. 17:33 <dholbach> maybe we'll manage this time to get a lot of the scheduling doine before UOS itself 17:33 <elfy> cprofitt: that 17:33 <cprofitt> I would hope we can schedule ahead of time; that would be my preference 17:33 <mhall119> cprofitt: we could expand the range of time it's open, sure 17:33 <cprofitt> that is what I was talking about mhall119 17:33 <elfy> seems that the majority running it are either US or EU time(s) 17:34 <mhall119> but getting track leads around to cover extra time is going to be dififcult 17:34 <elfy> mhall119: ack that 17:34 <cprofitt> elfy: exactly, but there is a great deal of difference between Berlin time and San Fran time. 17:34 <cprofitt> mhall119: is there a way to have a EU and a US track lead -- assuming we find the volunteers 17:34 <mhall119> we can always say "These are the core hours, track leads are around to help then, or you can use these other hours, but you're on your own to make it happen" 17:35 <elfy> mhall119: possibly useful 17:35 <mhall119> cprofitt: I think we had a decent mix the last few times, it's asia we didn't cover 17:35 <cprofitt> mhall119: I agree 17:35 <cprofitt> Do we think opening the hours and having TZ leads would help get people from Asia? 17:36 <mhall119> czajkowski: pleia2: are you around to comment on this 17:36 <mhall119> ? 17:36 <mhall119> cprofitt: maybe? 17:37 <czajkowski> sorry reading back 17:37 <czajkowski> had t jump elsewhere 17:37 <cprofitt> mhall119: yeah, that is what I was guessing... it is hard to know which came first... chicken or the egg 17:37 <dholbach> maybe we could ask folks in Asia/Oceania to come up a proposal of their own? like: propose sessions/session leaders and times and then we take it from there? 17:38 <czajkowski> I stil say schedule a longer day or take some time off in the middle of the day and add a weekend date 17:38 <cprofitt> dholbach: that should work. 17:38 <dholbach> it'll be hard to change the format and it'll be quite some work 17:38 <cprofitt> I like that idea too czajkowski 17:38 <czajkowski> its hard to volunteer mid week and work to sit at a screen. One day at weekend would help 17:38 <dholbach> and if we don't know that it's actually desired or necessary, then it might be better to focus on other stuff 17:38 <elfy> czajkowski: I'm certainly more likely to be available weekend 17:38 <cprofitt> with this being virtual there is less need to schdule it the way a physical UDS was. 17:38 <mhall119> IIRC, we had an hour block in the middle of last UDS for a break 17:38 <cprofitt> weekends would be excellent as well. 17:39 <elfy> mhall119: yea that seemed odd to me 17:39 <cprofitt> more people would not have work conflicts. 17:39 <dholbach> maybe we could have a hangout to start the UOS planning and gather some more feedback? :) 17:39 <mhall119> we can use next week's planned hangout 17:39 <mhall119> if everybody can make it 17:40 <elfy> I should actually be able to next week 17:40 * czajkowski proposes a 2 hours gap in the day at least 17:40 <dholbach> cool 17:40 <czajkowski> and adding a day at the weekend 17:41 <mhall119> czajkowski: can you add your ideas to http://pad.ubuntu.com/PkXURXDKrM ? 17:41 * dholbach marks it as the uos hangout :) 17:41 <czajkowski> ack 17:41 <dholbach> thanks a lot :) 17:42 <dholbach> anything else? 17:42 * mhall119 has nothing else 17:42 * elfy neither 17:42 * mhall119 is thrilled that we're starting UOS talks and planning more than just a couple of weeks before it starts 17:43 <cprofitt> nothing else from me either. 17:43 <cprofitt> +1 mhall119 17:43 <dholbach> yes :) 17:43 <dholbach> ok... that's a wrap then! 17:43 <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone! 17:43 <dholbach> #stopmeeting 17:43 <cprofitt> we need to inovlve team leads as soon as possible as well. 17:43 <dholbach> yep 17:43 <elfy> dholbach: try 17:43 <pleia2> endmeeting ;) 17:43 <elfy> #endmeeting