17:00 <dholbach> #startmeeting 17:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 18 17:00:43 2014 UTC. The chair is dholbach. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 17:00 <meetingology> 17:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 17:01 <dholbach> @chairs pleia2 elfy YokoZar 17:01 <meetingology> dholbach: Error: "chairs" is not a valid command. 17:01 <dholbach> #chairs pleia2 elfy YokoZar 17:01 <dholbach> hum 17:01 <elfy> mmmmmmm 17:01 <dholbach> #chair pleia2 elfy YokoZar 17:01 <meetingology> Current chairs: YokoZar dholbach elfy pleia2 17:01 <elfy> how long for dholbach ? 17:01 <dholbach> aha! 17:01 <dholbach> #topic Catching up with the IRC Council 17:01 <dholbach> do we have anyone here from the IRC Council? :) 17:02 <pleia2> o/ 17:02 <YokoZar> Hello then 17:04 <pleia2> Tm_T, Pici, hggdh, AlanBell - any of you around? 17:05 <dholbach> pleia2, you were quicker - I was just looking at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council/+members :) 17:05 <pleia2> :) 17:05 <pleia2> anyone else here from the IRC team with any thoughts, comments, concerns about the IRC team? 17:07 <YokoZar> hmmm 17:07 <dholbach> I just pinged folks in #ubuntu-irc 17:07 <dholbach> maybe in the meantime I can bring up something different real quick 17:07 <dholbach> I started the review of https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/config/planet-ubuntu/+merge/232014 17:08 <dholbach> it'd be great if anyone else could help with this as well 17:08 <dholbach> just so we don't accidentally drop folks form the planet configuration 17:08 <elfy> I saw that 17:09 <elfy> managed a quick look - I'll be able to spend a bit of time on it tomorrow 17:09 <dholbach> thanks a lot 17:09 <dholbach> I'll make sure I review the rest of it as well 17:09 <dholbach> it took me a while to understand that a lot of the entries were just being rearranged and not dropped entirely :) 17:10 <elfy> that was where I'd come unstuck - so you saying that will help :) 17:10 <YokoZar> I'll take a look today too 17:11 <dholbach> brilliant, thanks 17:11 <dholbach> ok... looks like nobody from the IRC team is around right now 17:12 <dholbach> shall we reschedule? 17:12 <YokoZar> I think so 17:12 <elfy> sounds good to me 17:13 <YokoZar> #topic Tardiness 17:13 <hggdh> pleia2: here 17:13 <elfy> that - or drop them a line and see what's up 17:13 <dholbach> ah, hello hggdh! 17:13 <elfy> hi hggdh :) 17:13 <hggdh> dholbach: hi, long time :-) 17:13 <YokoZar> #topic IRC Council catchup 17:13 <dholbach> how are you doing? 17:13 <dholbach> how's life? 17:13 <hggdh> elfy: cheers 17:14 <hggdh> life is good, but rather busy :-). Been to Germany, but just the Bavaria 17:14 <dholbach> ah nice - I'm going to be in Bavaria quite soon myself :) 17:14 <dholbach> how are things in IRC land? 17:15 <hggdh> seems stable. We -- the IRCC -- have been quite busy in our lives-outside-IRC. I have not seen any issues lately 17:16 <hggdh> except for SamwiseGamgee fallouts 17:16 <elfy> yep 17:16 <elfy> I've kind of seen that in -irc logs 17:16 <hggdh> do you need a summary of this case, or was my email was enough? 17:16 <elfy> and he's tried the same game in the forum channel 17:16 <dholbach> but all in all you feel like you coped quite well with the day to day business of ubuntu irc? 17:16 <elfy> hggdh: that mail was fine for me 17:17 <elfy> #chair mhall119 17:17 <meetingology> Current chairs: YokoZar dholbach elfy mhall119 pleia2 17:17 <YokoZar> Was fine too :) 17:17 <hggdh> I think we still need a bit more of attention to IRC. Although things seem to have been getting better, we can still go some more 17:18 <hggdh> as usual, there is always tension... 17:18 <dholbach> in which areas would you recommend to pay more attention to? 17:18 <hggdh> but, all in all, IRC -- to my perhaps biased view -- is better now than it was a few ago 17:19 <mhall119> I certainly haven't noticed any issues in the channels I'm in 17:19 <hggdh> my personal view, not necessarily reflecting the IRCC as a whole, is that we need more rotation, more new blood coming in 17:19 <hggdh> this does not mean the current ops would retire, though; it is more, not less or the same 17:19 <elfy> hggdh: that's a *buntu wide thing - everyone has said more or less the same :) 17:19 <dholbach> new blood in the ops team? or the council? or the wider irc community? 17:21 <hggdh> new blood in ops; filling in the vacant seat in IRCC might also be good. The wider IRC community depends, heh, on the community ;-) 17:22 <YokoZar> Ahh, reasonable 17:22 <YokoZar> I have no idea how to recruit said blood 17:22 <hggdh> I am happy with the ops we have, I just feel like giving others a chance to work for the community is warranted 17:23 <hggdh> I do not know either, at least not right now; creating an effective and catalystic, ops is not simple 17:23 <hggdh> but this is it, as far as I can see, for IRC 17:24 <dholbach> maybe we should have an Ubuntu "job fair" :) 17:24 <elfy> hggdh: so has the IRCC thought about calling for someone to fill the vacant spot? 17:24 <hggdh> doesnot sound a bad idea at all 17:24 <elfy> dholbach: ha ha ha 17:24 <mhall119> dholbach: that really is a good idea 17:24 <hggdh> elfy: I personally have been thinking about it 17:24 <dholbach> or at least an event where teams can explain what kind of folks they are looking for 17:25 <hggdh> have not yet checked with the rest of the council 17:25 <elfy> hggdh: ok - thanks - saved me asking :) 17:25 <dholbach> mhall119, maybe we should bring it up on the ubuntu-community-team@ list :) 17:25 <hggdh> dholbach: yes, and then we can expand it there 17:25 <dholbach> rock and roll 17:25 <elfy> hggdh: do you want to broach the subject with them - then see what happens then, if needed we could do so - but probably best if you all did 17:26 <dholbach> I'll send the mail out in a bit 17:26 <elfy> dholbach: good plan :) 17:26 <hggdh> elfy: ack, will do 17:26 <elfy> hggdh: okey doke - let us know if you need anything then 17:27 <hggdh> will do. Thank you for this opportunity, and sorry for being late (got my grandson here today, and he is all hands on deck...) 17:27 <dholbach> don't worry :) 17:27 <elfy> indeed not :) 17:27 <dholbach> it's good to hear that things are ticking along nicely 17:27 <elfy> hggdh: on deck or on kbd? 17:27 <hggdh> heh 17:27 <hggdh> I hope I can keep him from being a kbd strip... 17:28 <elfy> not got that far here- I might be old enough, but no elflets yet :) 17:28 <YokoZar> :) 17:28 <elfy> hggdh: lol 17:28 <dholbach> hggdh, did you approve any "irc members" recently? 17:28 <hggdh> dholbach: no, I have not, at least do not remember. I think Pici did 17:28 <hggdh> oh 17:28 <elfy> hggdh: quick question 17:29 <hggdh> you mean Ubuntu members via IRC -- no, none 17:29 <dholbach> yep 17:29 <dholbach> ok 17:29 <elfy> there are some proposed people sitting on https://launchpad.net/~irc-ubuntu-ops 17:29 <hggdh> will look at them 17:29 <elfy> what's going on with those? 17:30 <hggdh> elfy: cannot say (which is a shorthand for "it seems I messed up somewhere") 17:30 <elfy> :) 17:30 <YokoZar> Ahhh 17:30 <hggdh> will look at them; we just missed the IRC monthly (it would have been yesterday, I was for it, and got diverted by a work crisis) 17:31 <elfy> hggdh: thanks 17:31 <hggdh> so, we will figure something out 17:32 <dholbach> is there anything else you feel the CC could help with? or things you feel should be looked at? 17:33 <hggdh> only the empty seat, right now; we had considered, initially, that we would be able to cope but life got in the way; pretty much all are busy, so we (er, *I*) need to have this seat filled 17:33 <hggdh> .. 17:33 <mhall119> hggdh: will the current IRCC members nominate somebody to fill the seat? 17:34 <elfy> hggdh: so we'll leave that with you for the moment? 17:34 <mhall119> or should we have an open call for nominations? 17:34 <dholbach> ok... how do we move on from here? do we just call for nominees (who sends out the call?) and follow http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Restaffing? 17:34 <hggdh> mhall119: I feel we should not 17:35 <hggdh> I would rather go on a request for candidates; I do not want any impression of we gaming the system 17:37 <elfy> hggdh: ok - so you want to do the call and then forward them to us? 17:37 <hggdh> elfy: I can. Which MLs should I target? 17:38 <elfy> mmm 17:38 <DalekSec> hggdh: Did you want to discuss with other IRC council members first? 17:38 <mhall119> there doesn't seem to be an irc-members ML 17:38 <hggdh> DalekSec: I would rather and, in fact, *will*. But I still can take on the attribution to send out the announcement 17:39 <mhall119> there is an ubuntu-irc @lists.ubuntu.com is that used? 17:39 <hggdh> mhall119: ubuntu=irc@ubuntu.com 17:39 <dholbach> brilliant 17:39 <hggdh> lists.ubuntu.com, even 17:39 <elfy> hggdh: you could mail the fridge too 17:40 <pleia2> I'll make sure it gets posted to fridge 17:40 <hggdh> ack. ubuntu-irc and fridge (with copies to CC and IRCC) 17:40 * elfy thought pleia2 would say that :p 17:40 <pleia2> ubuntu-news-team is fridge :) 17:41 <hggdh> pleia2: heh. I was not really going to pin in on my fridge ;-) 17:41 <elfy> oh 17:41 <pleia2> hehe 17:41 <elfy> is that *not* how you do it :( 17:41 <pleia2> hggdh's pet for IRCC 17:41 <hggdh> :-D 17:43 <dholbach> any more questions for hggdh and the IRC Council? 17:43 <hggdh> so. I will start with an internal poll; I will either update the CC with the results of the poll (meaning the IRCC does not agree with me), or send out a RFC to ubuntu-irc, ubuntu-news-team, copies to CC and IRCC 17:43 <mhall119> none from me 17:43 <mhall119> thanks hggdh 17:44 <hggdh> you are all welcome. I am sorry for the lateness 17:44 <elfy> hggdh: you're welcome and excused :) 17:44 <elfy> thanks for your time 17:44 <hggdh> thank you all for yours :-) 17:44 <YokoZar> Thank you everyone 17:44 <dholbach> thanks a lot! 17:44 <dholbach> #topic Any other business 17:45 <pleia2> nothing from me 17:45 <dholbach> same here, planet config was the only bit I had 17:45 <dholbach> anyone else? 17:45 <YokoZar> nope 17:45 <elfy> not from me 17:46 <dholbach> all right... in that case... 17:46 <dholbach> #endmeeting