15:02 <slangasek> #startmeeting
15:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr 24 15:02:15 2014 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:02 <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
15:02 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox caribou infinity mvo)
15:02 <slangasek> barry mvo slangasek stgraber xnox jodh bdmurray doko cjwatson infinity caribou
15:02 <barry> \o/
15:03 <barry> catching up from pycon, keysigning
15:03 <barry> touch: updating, fixing, building, testing gallery-app py3 port.  LP: #1310794.  LP: #1222910
15:03 <barry> general: reported LP: #1310663 and downgraded to fix.  proposed apt-clone MP to clean up cruft.  LP: #1309447 review.  LP: #1290847 work ongoing.
15:03 <barry> done
15:03 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1310794 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1310794). The error has been logged
15:03 <barry> mumble seems down too :/
15:04 <mvo> Prepared 78 lines report from timelog and decided to be less boring with this one:
15:04 <mvo> Bugfixing for trusty/trusty-proposed: apt, aptdaemon, apt-clone, gdebi, apt-ddtp, python-apt, software-center, software-properties, ubuntu-release-upgrader, update-manager
15:04 <mvo> apt: work on apt-get intsall foo.dsc, bash completion, ftparchive-srcpkgcache, apt-get update progress estimates
15:04 <mvo> Misc:
15:04 <mvo> - lp-changelogs-crawler fix hang, add socket timeout to avoid future hangs
15:04 <mvo> - sprint, HR
15:04 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1222910 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222910). The error has been logged
15:04 <mvo> EOF
15:04 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1310663 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1310663). The error has been logged
15:04 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1309447 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1309447). The error has been logged
15:04 <ubottu> Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1290847 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290847). The error has been logged
15:04 <slangasek> no bot, not like that!
15:04 <xnox> slangasek: lp DoS
15:04 <mvo> barry: when LP is up again I have a look at the apt-clone
15:04 <slangasek> sigh
15:05 <barry> mvo: cool, should be simple
15:05 <slangasek> xnox: do we know why we're getting these DoSes?
15:05 <xnox> slangasek: ... i wonder if the botnet is ubuntu =)
15:05 <infinity> slangasek: I assume Dmitry annoyed someone a little too much.
15:06 <xnox> slangasek: there is #is-outage in progress / incident
15:06 * slangasek wonders why that's a separate channel
15:07 <slangasek> * release week
15:07 <slangasek> * short week due to vacation
15:07 <slangasek> * working on filling the Java role
15:07 <slangasek> * working on some reports for a customer
15:07 <slangasek> (done)
15:07 <barry> it's definitely not utopic
15:08 <xnox> slangasek: about Java role, elmo has a few requests if/when that possition is filled. Mostly around packaging java software we use in production - jenkins, elasticsearch, cassandra.
15:08 <stgraber> Waited all week for Mark to announce the new name...
15:08 <stgraber> More seriously:
15:08 <stgraber> - 14.04 release
15:08 <stgraber> - LXC upstream work: fixed a bunch of Jenkins problems, bug reports, debugged
15:08 <stgraber> some crazy issue on machines with a crazy amount of network namespaces and
15:08 <stgraber> routes (kernel network stack falling appart when you have around 500 netns
15:08 <stgraber> with over 200 routes each).
15:08 <stgraber> - cgmanager/systemd: looked into a couple of bugs
15:08 <slangasek> xnox: that's, er, out of scope for the role
15:08 <stgraber> - U preparation: setup system-image, cleaned up some stuff there too, setup
15:08 <stgraber> the QA tracker, setup extras.ubuntu.com
15:08 <stgraber> - Some SRU reviews
15:08 <stgraber> 
15:08 <stgraber> I'm off tomorrow and Monday.
15:08 <stgraber> (DONE)
15:09 <doko> xnox, this is not about packaging software in Java
15:09 <xnox> slangasek: i know, that's what i said as well... but using 3rd-party binary .debs is also not ideal.
15:09 <doko> - PyCon
15:09 <doko> - two Easter holidays
15:09 <doko> - prepare binutils and GCC for utopic
15:09 <doko> (done)
15:09 <xnox> do* Release week -> released
15:09 <xnox> * Unicorn opening -> did couple minor opening tasks
15:09 <xnox> * Worked on pushing deltas to debian where appropriate
15:09 <xnox> * Working on better upstart/service/update-rc.d integration
15:09 <xnox> ( e.g. such that launching init.d scripts work & we can revert php5
15:09 <xnox> job change)
15:09 <xnox> * Working with nvme-linux & efibootmgr to add support for generating
15:09 <xnox> nvme efi boot entries.
15:09 <xnox> * worked on python3-launchpadlib:
15:09 <xnox> - merge proposal in progress to fix +access-token in launchpad
15:10 <xnox> - merge proposal against requests-oauthlib to support redirects
15:10 <xnox> 廌
15:10 <slangasek> xnox: not disagreeing, but there's no reason to think that someone maintaining the JVM is also going to be packaging complicated .jar stacks
15:10 <jodh> * foundations-1305-upstart-work-items:
15:10 <jodh> - cgroup support: Back working on this. Current plan is to couple the
15:10 <jodh> cgmanager code (but not the async elements) from the cgroup branch
15:10 <barry> xnox: \o/  if you're hunting for reviews, let me know
15:10 <jodh> and the async branch which I've been working on for the past couple
15:10 <jodh> of days since this provides a much better design.
15:10 <jodh> * misc:
15:10 <jodh> - short week due to Easter and also out Tuesday.
15:10 <jodh> ⁁
15:10 <xnox> doko: are we going to switch to 4.9 in utopic, or is that out-of-scope?
15:11 <doko> xnox, around the 4.9.1 release
15:11 <cjwatson> doko: is there anything else needed in the utopic archive right now for toolchain, or is it good from your point of view (once the autopkgtest issues are fixed)?
15:12 <cjwatson> doko: I didn't see a GCC upload to utopic yet
15:12 <doko> cjwatson, I don't have any more issues, maybe the dpkg merge, so that fortran packages are built with optimization
15:12 <cjwatson> dpkg was merged
15:12 <cjwatson> oh, still in unapproved
15:12 <doko> didn't subscribe to utopic-hcanges quick enough
15:12 <infinity> Yeah.  It's merged, but waiting. :)
15:12 <cjwatson> yeah, I'll poke that one
15:12 <infinity> It was the second thing uploaded.
15:13 <infinity> Also, must have vim, so I stop getting angry red in my changelogs.
15:13 <doko> will upload gcc-4.9 and gcc-4.8
15:13 <xnox> infinity: i thought vim was done.
15:13 <infinity> xnox: Same story.  I did the merge, sitting in the queue. :)
15:13 <cjwatson> xnox: also in unapproved
15:13 <slangasek> cjwatson: your turn (people going out of order, people on holiday... madness)
15:13 <xnox> ah, ok.
15:14 <cjwatson> Spent most of the week working on livefs-in-LP.  I have most of the master side done now; just need to write build behaviour tests and add webservice-flavoured methods for retrieving build files.  "bzr damage" => 2175 LoC
15:14 <cjwatson> Opening utopic, at last; initial archive publication, seeds, setting up various reports.
15:14 <cjwatson> ..
15:14 <cjwatson> (accepted dpkg and vim)
15:14 <infinity> * released trusty
15:14 <infinity> * long weekend
15:14 <infinity> * opening utopic
15:14 <infinity> * misc
15:14 <infinity> ☭
15:15 <caribou> * More work on sosreport. Now part of the upstream team
15:15 <caribou> * Re-submitted SRU on bug 1293291 to enable BTMP on openssh
15:15 <ubottu> Error: Launchpad bug 1293291 could not be found
15:15 <caribou> * New makedumpfile upstream version to be packaged
15:16 <caribou> will need help from some nice DD as my current DM mentor is nowhere to be seen
15:16 <caribou> (done)
15:17 <infinity> caribou: I've offered to sponsor you in the past. :)
15:17 <caribou> infinity: yeah, I wanted to stay nice to my current sponsor but this will now change
15:17 <caribou> infinity: I'll ping you
15:17 <xnox> caribou: ditto, i can also sponsor things into debian and/or for you to become DM, DD.
15:18 <caribou> xnox has also offered to help with my DM submission
15:18 <caribou> xnox: I got my gpg key sorted out now. I was waiting for the release to get out of the way to ping you
15:18 <xnox> caribou: sounds good. I'll PM you to see what we need to do next.
15:18 <slangasek> anything else re: current status?
15:20 <slangasek> [TOPIC] trusty SRUs
15:20 <slangasek> as expected, there are still some bugs around in the LTS we've just released
15:20 <infinity> Lies.
15:20 <barry> features
15:20 <slangasek> we haven't spent much meeting time on bug tracking this cycle, we should probably do a bit more
15:21 <slangasek> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-t-tracking-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:22 <slangasek> those are the bugs that are targeted to trusty; could you all help take some time today to clean up that list?  Claiming the ones that are SRUs you think you should be driving, letting me know about ones you think we should drop from the list
15:22 <slangasek> and if there are some on there that are assigned to you that you think you aren't going to get to, please let me know that as well
15:22 <slangasek> ok?
15:23 * mvo nods
15:23 <barry> yeppers
15:23 * infinity is reminded to review the bash in the queue.
15:24 <slangasek> I guess you mean for utopic, not for trusty?
15:24 <infinity> No, for trusty.
15:25 <slangasek> it shouldn't be in the queue
15:25 <infinity> Oh, did someone let that in while I slept?
15:25 <slangasek> they did indeed, Rip
15:25 <infinity> Shiny.
15:25 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
15:25 <slangasek> anything else?
15:26 <slangasek> formulating a game plan for taking control of the botnet and upgrading it to Ubuntu?
15:26 <slangasek> (I assume it's running XP right now)
15:26 <cjwatson> has anyone worked out how to get from the airport in Malta to the hotel yet?
15:26 <cjwatson> seeing as I'm going to be trying to do it after midnight :-/
15:26 <infinity> cjwatson: After midnight, I'd assume taxi.
15:27 <doko> slangasek, speaking of elmo's list ... is this is list public?
15:27 <cjwatson> (or possibly finding a comfy park bench near the airport and doing it in the morning ...)
15:27 <cjwatson> infinity: it's like an hour away AIUI?
15:27 <infinity> cjwatson: Eek.  Yeah, I've not looked at any of that yet.  Maybe I should get to caring at some point.
15:27 <slangasek> doko: "elmo's list"?  that's the version of craiglist where your transactions are randomly accompanied by bursts of laughter?
15:27 <xnox> doko: not sure. but it's combination of "jamespage stopped doing jenkins packaging unwinding" and we run "cassandra, ellasticsearch, jenkins" a lot.
15:27 <cjwatson> (but I haven't actually looked properly)
15:27 <doko> when you walk, you'll arrive in the morning
15:28 <cjwatson> doko: thanks
15:28 <slangasek> cjwatson: oh, man - no, haven't looked at this at all
15:28 <doko> ;p
15:29 <slangasek> doko: do you mean the list of non-Ubuntu .debs IS is running?  I certainly haven't seen a list
15:29 <doko> xnox, slangasek: well, I would expect puppet on this list too
15:29 <slangasek> doko: you expect IS is not using the puppet in the archive...?
15:29 <xnox> doko: i'm only aware of the "elmo's java list", no idea about complete "elmo's list"
15:29 <mvo> cjwatson: meh, I arrive at 21:45 so no public transport for me as well I guess
15:29 <doko> slangasek, I would like to know what else besides of puppet IS is using
15:30 <slangasek> doko: IS is using lots of stuff, but that was a list of things IS is using that aren't from the archive
15:31 <slangasek> cjwatson: maps.google.com tells me it's only 13m by car
15:31 <cjwatson> ah ok, better than I'd heard
15:31 <cjwatson> fine, I'm sure that can be managed somehow then
15:32 <doko> slangasek, well I mean the list of things we only have in main because IS needs these
15:32 <slangasek> maps.google.com also shows me lots of opaque toponyms
15:32 <slangasek> doko: those should be annotated in the seed
15:35 <slangasek> cjwatson: it also looks like it would be hard to be more than 30m from the airport, FWIW :)
15:35 <infinity> slangasek: Maybe the hotel is on an oil rig?
15:36 <slangasek> well, evidently there is a second islandthat could introduce ferry delays
15:36 <slangasek> #endmeeting