21:05 <mdeslaur> #startmeeting Technical Board meeting 21:05 <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Mar 17 21:05:06 2014 UTC. The chair is mdeslaur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 21:05 <meetingology> 21:05 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 21:05 <mdeslaur> #topic Action review 21:05 <stgraber> any besides the LTS stuff which we said we'd do by e-mail (I really need to reply to some of those...) I'm not sure that we have anything to vote on anyway 21:05 <stgraber> s/^any // 21:05 <mdeslaur> so, we still have kees' "MRE" item 21:06 <mdeslaur> but he's not here, so let's defer that for now 21:06 <infinity> I guess that carries, since he seems to not be around to speak to it. :P 21:06 <mdeslaur> does anyone have any other action items that aren't on the wiki page? 21:07 <mdeslaur> #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed 21:07 <infinity> We could take the LTS stuff from email to meeting, if we feel we're in a position to JFDI on some voting there. 21:07 <slangasek> did the Ubuntu GNOME people make it today? 21:07 <infinity> slangasek: FWIW, I agree with your "nothing shorter than 3y for an LTS commitment". 21:07 <slangasek> darkxst said he was interested in discussing 21:07 <darkxst> slangasek, hey, I am here 21:07 <mdeslaur> I'd prefer waiting for a reply to slangasek's email 21:07 <slangasek> darkxst: hello 21:07 <mdeslaur> oh, cool. hi darkxst 21:08 <slangasek> darkxst: hi - have you seen my mail today regarding the need for an overlap between LTSes to give users a chance to upgrade? 21:08 <darkxst> yes, I just replied now 21:08 <darkxst> only just woke up ;) 21:09 <darkxst> "Was simply not aware that upgrades aren't enabled until 16.04.1. Certainly our intention is to provide some overlap for upgrades." 21:09 <slangasek> ok 21:10 <slangasek> and yes, we generally hold off on flipping the switch on the server regarding upgrades until the .1 point release 21:10 <infinity> If you're okay with providing 3y, I think we should just go with that and approve it, unless there are objections? 21:10 <darkxst> and if 3 years support is the minimum we will support that time frame, 21:10 <slangasek> and that's a common switch that affects all flavors, not something we could make a per-flavor exception for 21:10 <slangasek> I think "3 years minimum" is the consensus, at least among the TB members here 21:11 <infinity> Is anyone gathering up all the LTS statuses somewhere handily central, so we can do the LP changes required to mark all the packagesets? 21:11 <slangasek> if we have the 3-year committment, are we happy to approve Ubuntu GNOME for LTS? 21:11 <infinity> +1 21:11 <mdeslaur> +1 21:11 <slangasek> +1 21:11 <stgraber> +1 21:12 <slangasek> darkxst: welcome to the LTS :) 21:12 <darkxst> thanks ;) 21:12 <mdeslaur> [AGREED] Ubuntu GNOME is a 3 year LTS 21:12 <mdeslaur> gah 21:12 <slangasek> infinity: well, I'm gathering them in the sense that they're all in a suitable mailbox 21:12 <slangasek> infinity: but if I have access to tweak the packagesets, I don't know how; is that something you could take the action for? 21:13 <infinity> It, hilariously, take an LP MP to make it happen, IIRC. 21:13 <slangasek> and if you need me to send you the summary of LTS flavors I can do that 21:13 <infinity> s/take/takes/ 21:13 <infinity> slangasek: If you want to summarize the flavour/support bits, I can handle the LP side. 21:13 <slangasek> [ACTION] slangasek to send infinity the summary of flavor LTS support for adjusting in Launchpad 21:13 * meetingology slangasek to send infinity the summary of flavor LTS support for adjusting in Launchpad 21:14 <stgraber> Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Kylin => 5 years and GNOME, Xubuntu, Mythbuntu and Studio => 3 years 21:14 <stgraber> that's what I have in my notes here anyway 21:14 <slangasek> ok, stgraber steals the action 21:14 <infinity> Heh. 21:14 <infinity> stgraber: Triple check and drop me an email (or an MP, if you're feeling adventurous). 21:15 <slangasek> [ACTION] infinity to mark 14.04 LTS flavor support in Launchpad: Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Kylin => 5 years and GNOME, Xubuntu, Mythbuntu and Studio => 3 years 21:15 * meetingology infinity to mark 14.04 LTS flavor support in Launchpad: Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Kylin => 5 years and GNOME, Xubuntu, Mythbuntu and Studio => 3 years 21:15 <slangasek> there, it'll be in the meeting notes too 21:15 <mdeslaur> I gather we're all in agreement about those? 21:16 <stgraber> hmm, did I miss an e-mail from Lubuntu or did they not answer wrt LTS status? 21:16 <infinity> I have no objections, after the back-and-forth that was had about XFCE support seemed to come to a reasonable conclusion. 21:16 <slangasek> yes, I'm +1 for all of the above 21:16 <mdeslaur> +1 from me also 21:17 <gilir> stgraber, Lubuntu answered on tb mailing list :-) 21:18 <stgraber> gilir: oh yeah, sorry, just found it. 21:18 <stgraber> so Lubuntu 3 years 21:18 <infinity> Ahh, indeed. 21:18 <infinity> +1 to that too. 21:18 <stgraber> +1 21:18 <infinity> Does that actually make all the flavours LTS this round? 21:18 <stgraber> so that's kind of nice, we have all flavours participating in the LTS this time around 21:18 <mdeslaur> \o/ 21:19 <infinity> Alright, we should probably commit that to LP this week, so the Final Beta is showing the right support lengths. 21:20 <infinity> Since everything currently says 9m across the board. 21:21 <mdeslaur> Does anyone have any other items they would like to discuss? 21:21 <stgraber> nothing here 21:21 <slangasek> not me 21:21 <infinity> Nein. 21:21 <mdeslaur> ok, moving on 21:21 <mdeslaur> #topic Check up on community bugs 21:22 <mdeslaur> no open bugs 21:22 <mdeslaur> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting 21:22 <mdeslaur> next in the list is sabdfl 21:22 <infinity> s/sabdfl/pitti/ I'd assume. 21:23 <mdeslaur> pitti: tag, you're it 21:23 <mdeslaur> and...we're done! 21:23 <mdeslaur> #endmeeting