== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting Meeting, 20 Feb at 16:02 — 16:38 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-02-20-16.02.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Lightning round === The discussion about "Lightning round" started at 16:02. === FeatureFreeze === The discussion about "FeatureFreeze" started at 16:26. === UDS === The discussion about "UDS" started at 16:32. === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 16:34. == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * slangasek (44) * xnox (32) * bdmurray (23) * stgraber (18) * jodh (16) * barry (14) * cjwatson (11) * doko (5) * ubottu (4) * meetingology (3) * caribou (3) == Full Log == 16:02 #startmeeting 16:02 Meeting started Thu Feb 20 16:02:02 2014 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:02 16:02 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:02 [TOPIC] Lightning round 16:02 $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu) 16:02 doko stokachu cjwatson jodh bdmurray barry xnox slangasek stgraber 16:03 doko: here? 16:04 - working on python 3.4 as the default updates. still a few issues, pending pack 16:04 ages are: pystache, pyside. pytbles, aptdaemon, system-image 16:04 - transitions ... 16:04 - toolchain update 16:04 (done) 16:04 slangasek: s/stokachu/caribou/ 16:07 caribou: your turn then :) 16:08 nothing particular on our side 16:09 Finished first pass at HTTPS support in d-i (included giant base-installer merge which took a while). Awaiting CTS feedback before backporting to precise. 16:09 Spent most of the week in a cave hacking on libclick. I now have over 4000 lines of C code, though a lot of it's quite formulaic translation work; should be within a week of landing this. See FFe bug 1282311. 16:09 bug 1282311 in click (Ubuntu) "[FFe] libclick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1282311 16:09 Went through Debian auto-sync dry-run report looking for easy and reasonably safe bug-fix syncs. Found nearly 100. 16:09 Continued Debian TC discussions. 16:09 .. 16:09 * core-1311-cgroup-manager: 16:09 - upstart: async tests have identified a state machine bug in the async 16:09 branch which I'm currently investigating. 16:10 * UDS 16:10 - Raised blueprints: 16:10 - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1403-systemd-transition 16:10 - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1403-session-init-systemd-migration 16:10 * boot: 16:10 * slangasek pokes the network 16:10 - Merged lp:~cameronnemo/upstart/ipv6. 16:10 so, how much of anything made it through before my network collapsed on me? 16:10 - Created basic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers page. 16:10 փ 16:10 slangasek: 16:03 < slangasek> doko: here? 16:10 slangasek: I'll paste you the log 16:10 heh :) 16:10 slangasek: nothing really 16:10 stgraber: nah, I'll grab it from irclogs.u.c 16:10 slangasek: ok 16:11 tested issue with retracers and a core dump that retraced well for me but not in canonistack (precise version of gdb) 16:11 research into failed to retrace bugs for seb128 16:11 created a duplicate signature for kerneloops reports using linux package hook 16:11 worked with ogasawara regarding oopstext and dupe signatures 16:11 uploaded apport with dupesig changes to trusty 16:11 updated apport to include package version in Package section of kerneloops crashes 16:11 uploaded kerneloops enabled package to trusty 16:11 emailed ubuntu-quality regarding kerneloops 16:11 investigation into carriage return in errors buckets and querying of cassandra issue 16:11 changed apport not to use a line feed in the duplicate signature for kerneloops'es 16:11 fixed errors issue with characters in bucket ids pertinent to kerneloops reports 16:11 research into package rate of crash changes for the phased-updater 16:11 package rate of crashes work (setup test queries using cassandra.py) 16:11 updated new and eol release tasks with error tracker information 16:11 submitted a merge proposal for aptdaemon bug 1266844 16:11 uploaded a fix for usb-creator bug 1259111 16:11 bug 1266844 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "crash in gtk3widgets.py: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'append'" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1266844 16:11 merge proposal to fix unattended-upgrades reboot dry-run bug 16:11 bug 1259111 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/usb-creator-gtk:UnboundLocalError::_device_changed:_udisks_obj_added:_udisks_partition_added" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1259111 16:11 patch pilot 16:11 +1 maintenance 16:11 SRU admin work with carges 16:12 google hangout with server team manager regarding bug reports 16:12 ⌁ done 16:12 system-image: LP: #1277589. much testing, probably have a good fix in lieu of u-d-m patches. struggling to get successful ppa build. test suite problems with dbus-daemon that aren't evident in local sbuilds - trying again on devirt ppa, and if that doesn't work, i can sleep(2) my way around it i think. update: looks like devirt doesn't help. :( time 2 sleep, er. time.sleep(2) 16:12 Launchpad bug 1277589 in ubuntu-download-manager "Better protection against concurrent access" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277589 16:12 ubu/deb: enum34 0.9.23-1 16:12 python: issue 20687 (expectedFailure regression affecting autopilot) 16:12 later today: hangout chat about py3 autopilot 16:12 done 16:13 * assisting ci with queries about emulator (ci has work in progress to 16:13 drive emulator cloud instances to execute all tests and aggregate 16:13 results) 16:13 * ongoing discussions about autpilot python3 migration: 16:13 - write up of the plan at 16:13 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-python3-roadmap 16:13 - follow up chat between autopilot, qa, and foundations later today 16:13 * frantically doing last-minute merges pre-FF + forwaring things to 16:13 debian as applicable. And patch-piloting interesting fixes. 16:13 * completed all dmraid2mdadm patches, did not resolve migration path 16:13 for existing dmraid installation - requested feedback on 16:13 ubuntu-devel about it. 16:13 * fixing up artwork in a few places for 14.04: 16:13 - lightdm logo (now dynamically generated) 16:13 - updated d-i logo (no more vintage) 16:13 - plymouth logo update pending design review (circle of friends must 16:13 be orange, not aubergine) 16:13 * looking into reported boost test-suite failures, whilst it's 16:13 interesting to see how broken the test-suites are, some of these 16:13 jodh: I made core-1403-session-init-systemd-migration depend on core-1403-systemd-transition, since systemd's session supervision support requires that systemd is pid 1 16:13 problems are upstream and not distribution/specific. 16:13 * Working on testing grub-installer, to always honor the preseed 16:13 target device for grub installation. Will upload soon. 16:13 .. 16:15 cjwatson: thanks. core-1403-session-init-systemd-migration is arguably misnamed though iff we can find a way to emulate the events that the Session Init currently gets via the upstart-event-bridge. 16:15 cjwatson: if that were possible, there would be no dependency. 16:15 jodh: well, there's a bidirectional dependency that might be broken one way 16:15 cjwatson: but clearly they are related, so I guess it makes sense for now :) 16:16 jodh: but if we wanted to use systemd as the session init as well, then there is a dependency there 16:16 cjwatson: ack 16:16 i.e. your c) 16:16 anyway, feel free to remove the dep if you feel appropriate, I just wanted a link to exist :) 16:16 cjwatson: agreed 16:17 barry: do you want any more eyeballs on the system-image ppa build problem today? 16:18 slangasek: yes, please! it would be nice to have a proper build and not depend on ugly sleeps 16:18 barry: ok, link me after the meeting please :) 16:19 slangasek: will do 16:19 barry, xnox: should I sit in on the python3 autopilot hangout later? 16:19 slangasek: sure 16:19 * job description handed over to HR for the Java role 16:19 * heavily focused on customer-facing work this week 16:19 (done) 16:19 ^^ if you know any java people, send 'em my way :) 16:19 LXC: 16:19 - Released rc1, rc2, rc3 and rc4. 16:19 - Prepared the release announcements, website update, ... for the final release later today. 16:19 - Switched the LXC daily PPA to building with cgmanager by default. 16:19 - Got all the tests passing both with and without cgmanager (found a couple of interesting issues in the process). 16:19 - Finished my blog post series on LXC 1.0 just in time for release. 16:20 - Fixed a ton of coverity reported issues and a few other bugs. 16:20 - Code reviews and testing of last minute changes. 16:20 CGManager: 16:20 - Tested cgmanager on all supported releases and now happily using it on precise! 16:20 - Started working on patches to our logind so it can use cgmanager and skip cgroupfs entirely. 16:20 Other: 16:20 - Fixed a couple of issues with shadow and user namespaces (don't give uid/gid ranges to system users and give 65536 uids by default to others). 16:20 (DONE) 16:21 slangasek: if you have time, it might be interesting =) as some of us have conflicting opinions of what autopilot is and what's the long term future for python2-autopilot is. 16:22 xnox, barry: the whiteboard on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-python3-roadmap is a good starting point, but maybe it would help to have a wiki page writeup that goes into more detail, before the meeting, to explain how the outlined steps get us to where we want to be 16:23 any questions over status above? 16:24 caribou: sorry, irclogs.u.c is unhelpfully not refreshing for me, so I don't see if you had a chance to talk during the lightning round 16:24 slangasek: yes I did, nothing particular at this time 16:24 ok 16:24 slangasek, cjwatson well, maybe the devirt ppa *did* work: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/systemimage/+build/5621116 16:25 barry: ... "fun" :) 16:25 why do you people keep writing software that's sensitive to the differences between our different ppas, sheesh :) 16:25 slangasek: there are still a few dbus errors in the output, but these ones don't affect test suite. shall we declare victory and move on? :) 16:25 barry: yes 16:26 barry: you can do binary copy into the archive from de-virt ppa without recompilation =) 16:26 [TOPIC] FeatureFreeze 16:26 barry: random guesses 'r' us. let's hope it isn't racy though 16:26 speaking of moving on 16:26 xnox: :P 16:26 cjwatson: i'm very good at hitting "retry" :) 16:26 I don't think there was any pre-announcement of it this time around, but lo, today is the feature freeze for trusty 16:26 slangasek: i have a few packages that do [ -e /CurrentlyBuilding ] && 16:26 so, y'know, adjust your uploading accordingly 16:27 slangasek: so what's the qt5.2 status w.r.t. FF then? 16:27 xnox: that's the thing. it *only* fails on the virt ppas 16:27 a very good question 16:27 * barry blames hardy 16:28 there are certainly a number of packages that we're looking for standing FFes for wrt the phone 16:28 I think we still need to get qt5.2 in... but it's obviously not made it in before the FF 16:29 I'll be checking with ScottK to understand how this impacts the non-phone 16:29 barry: re-autopilot a list of all affected packages/branches would be good: e.g. emulators and clicks. 16:29 slangasek: right, there are very little Qt5 !touch packages in the archive. 16:30 xnox: i had that once, before the london rain washed it all away. will try to resurrect it 16:30 xnox: any chance you can tell at a glance which ones are !touch? I couldn't work it out from the names alone 16:30 slangasek: however, KDE Framework5 is planned to be released shortly after 14.04 and it is expected that kubuntu will want to provide 5.2 based framework5 via blessed kubuntu PPAs. 16:31 slangasek: i'll do that quickly. 16:31 xnox: ok, so it's to their advantage to have 5.2 in and stable for 14.04, and it won't (in theory) disrupt anything they're currently working on 16:31 slangasek: correct. 16:32 good to hear - we'll still want to confirm that with the kubuntu team directly, but at least it sounds like we have a way forward in spite of the late landing 16:32 [TOPIC] UDS 16:32 UDS is only 3 weeks away 16:33 while it's ok to not have a lot of new discussion sessions mid-cycle - I'm sure we all have plenty of work items still from the blueprints at last UDS - if you *do* have topics you think we need to discuss, please get the blueprints registered this week 16:34 [TOPIC] AOB 16:34 anything else? 16:36 fwiw, see your email regarding an upcoming sprint that's being planned 16:36 the dates are a bit awkward for those in the US/UK 16:37 any questions, you can grab me on mumble or IRC :) 16:38 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)