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17:05 <pleia2> we have Edubuntu and Lubuntu on the schedule for today
17:06 <pleia2> anyone from Lubuntu about for a checkin?
17:07 <stgraber> mhall119: vaguely (having lunch)
17:07 <pleia2> or Edubuntu, hey stgraber!
17:07 <mhall119> stgraber: ok, it's just a checkin, so shouldn't require much
17:08 <pleia2> #topic Edubuntu check in
17:08 <pleia2> I understand Edubuntu has been more focused on LTS releases, are things on track this cycle?
17:10 <czajkowski> stgraber: ?
17:10 <stgraber> well, not much has been happening lately but I still hope to get most bits landed before feature freeze
17:10 <stgraber> I've been pretty busy with other things so far
17:10 <stgraber> we did have an alpha1 though
17:11 <pleia2> that's good, anything the CC can help the team with with, or just general manpower blockers?
17:11 <highvoltage> o/
17:11 <pleia2> hey highvoltage :)
17:12 <highvoltage> hey!
17:12 <stgraber> general manpower blockers. I hope that edubuntu-server will help get more contributors later on.
17:12 <stgraber> our decision to stop doing non-LTS releases should also help a lot once 14.04 is out the door
17:12 * pleia2 nods
17:13 <highvoltage> pleia2: did you see the mails last month regarding the edubuntu council / re-elections and the question of whether we strictly need a council per se?
17:13 <mhall119> highvoltage: where did that email get sent?
17:13 <pleia2> highvoltage: yeah
17:13 <stgraber> mhall119: CC mailing-list I believe
17:13 <pleia2> I'm thinking we go with the idea of dissolving the council, but I should follow up
17:14 <highvoltage> mhall119: community council and edubuntu council mailing lists
17:14 <mhall119> hmmm, must have missed it
17:14 <stgraber> mhall119: "Edubuntu Council expiring 2013-12-20"
17:14 <highvoltage> pleia2: I think in general the Edubuntu community still needs a community reboot of a kind (as it has for the last few cycles).
17:15 * pleia2 nods
17:15 <pleia2> so in that thread we decided to wait until after the holidays (indeed, the whole thing got lost in my holiday backlog :))
17:15 <highvoltage> only problem is that everyone is eager to get involved with that but no one has the time
17:15 <mhall119> highvoltage: stgraber: if you need the community team's help in promoting such a reboot, get in touch with me
17:15 <pleia2> yeah
17:16 <highvoltage> sorry stgraber I didn't mean to derail your train of thought on the technical stuff :)
17:16 <pleia2> so the proposal in the thread was to remove the council and simply make stgraber and highvoltage co-leaders, which I'm still on board with
17:16 <pleia2> I'll follow up
17:16 <highvoltage> pleia2: great
17:16 <stgraber> pleia2: thanks
17:17 <stgraber> highvoltage: didn't have much more to report ;)
17:17 <stgraber> mhall119: we may take you up on that offer at some point. Currently I think we're in the situation where the effort required for such a reboot would drain a lot of the limited time we have to get the technical stuff done for 14.04.
17:17 <highvoltage> stgraber: in terms of goals for this cycle we're likely to focus on two areas, getting the edubuntu-server parts in a 1.0'ish state and getting some legacy desktop stuff (gnome flashback) in better state so that it's supportable for an LTS lifecycle
17:17 <highvoltage> (oops, didn't mean to aim that at stgraber)
17:18 <pleia2> cool
17:18 <stgraber> so I think it's best to focus on the release, make sure 14.04 is good and then we'll have 2 years to try and rebuild our community until the next release
17:18 <highvoltage> stgraber: *nod*, I think that reboot should happen post-lts-release
17:18 <mhall119> stgraber: I'd be happy to help coordinate a reboot, both as a community team members and as an edubuntu community volunteer
17:18 <pleia2> sounds like a plan :)
17:18 <highvoltage> mhall119: awesome :D
17:19 <mhall119> what DE is edubuntu using these days?
17:19 <highvoltage> unity by default with gnome flashback
17:19 <stgraber> Unity by default, gnome-flashback as an alternative and default for LTSP
17:19 <mhall119> ok
17:19 <highvoltage> the installer has an option to enable gnome flashback by default
17:20 <pleia2> ianorlin has joined us for the lubuntu team
17:20 <mhall119> is that well supported?
17:20 <highvoltage> personally I'm not a fan of unity since the dash is extremely confusing for new users
17:20 <highvoltage> and apps are hard too find
17:20 <mhall119> by upstream Ubuntu and/or upstream Gnome?
17:20 <highvoltage> mhall119: there's a small upstream team
17:20 <highvoltage> mhall119: I'm part of it, it needs a lot of work to keep it on life support
17:20 <stgraber> highvoltage: well, at least we don't have remote search enabled by default!
17:20 <highvoltage> (since the rest of the gnome world is changing so fast)
17:20 <ogra_> highvoltage, well, mate-desktop is in now
17:21 <highvoltage> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeFlashback
17:21 * mhall119 will pick your brains about stuff in #edubuntu later :)
17:21 <pleia2> ok, thanks highvoltage and stgraber!
17:21 <mhall119> thanks guys
17:21 <highvoltage> ogra_: problem with mate-desktop is that it brings in the rest of the mate world, which is a clone of every gnome tool ever made (gedit, nautilus, gcalctool, etc)
17:21 <ogra_> lovely
17:22 <pleia2> #topic Lubuntu checkin
17:22 <highvoltage> ogra_: but I'd be happy to go only mate and through out unity if you can convince stgraber of that :p
17:22 <highvoltage> (thanks I'll move on now :p)
17:22 <pleia2> ianorlin: so during these checkins, we pretty much just ask about the state of the project/community and see if there is any way we can help out :)
17:22 <ogra_> highvoltage, your job, not mine anymore ;)
17:23 <ianorlin> Most of lubuntu is focusing on 14.04 now and 14.04 plan is fixing bugs
17:23 <ianorlin> the social media areas seem to keep having more users join
17:23 <pleia2> great
17:23 <ianorlin> although the QA mailing list has grown a little quiet lately
17:24 <pleia2> yeah, I had noticed that
17:24 <pleia2> I did a few tests on lubuntu ppc, but the holidays got pretty busy for me
17:25 <ianorlin> hasn't picked up much since then although I think trusty is running right now
17:26 <pleia2> is there anything the CC can do to help support the team, or do you think it's just a matter of getting more folks active/involved?
17:26 <pleia2> we're here to help resolve community and technical blockers with resources and things
17:26 <ianorlin> I can't think of anything
17:26 * pleia2 nods
17:27 <pleia2> thanks for joing us today, anyone else have any questions/comments?
17:30 <pleia2> ok, I think that's it then
17:30 <pleia2> #topic Any other business
17:31 <pleia2> anything else on our radar today that we wanted to chat about?
17:31 <mhall119> not from me
17:34 <pleia2> ok, thanks everyone :)
17:34 <pleia2> #endmeeting