== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: ubuntu-server-team, 16 Jul at 16:00 — 16:56 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-07-16-16.00.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Review ACTION points from previous meeting === The discussion about "Review ACTION points from previous meeting" started at 16:00. * ''ACTION:'' rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy === Saucy Development === The discussion about "Saucy Development" started at 16:09. * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server * ''LINK:'' http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-saucy/group/topic-saucy-servercloud-overview.html * ''LINK:'' http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-servercloud-overview.html * ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-ceph === Ubuntu Server Team Events === The discussion about "Ubuntu Server Team Events" started at 16:42. === Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)" started at 16:44. === Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)" started at 16:47. === Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) === The discussion about "Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)" started at 16:48. === Open Discussion === The discussion about "Open Discussion" started at 16:51. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/WeeklyDunk/Week29 * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2013-July/006679.html === Announce next meeting date and time === The discussion about "Announce next meeting date and time" started at 16:55. == Vote results == == Action items == * rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy == Action items, by person == * Daviey * rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy * rbasak * rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy == People present (lines said) == * Daviey (97) * adam_g (60) * jamespage (57) * rbasak (26) * zul (13) * ubottu (11) * smb (7) * psivaa (4) * roaksoax (4) * smoser (4) * meetingology (4) * arosales (3) * ivoks (3) * yolanda (2) * utlemming (2) == Full Log == 16:00 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:00 Meeting started Tue Jul 16 16:00:08 2013 UTC. The chair is adam_g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:00 16:00 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:00 hi all 16:00 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:01 arosales to carry out post-meeting procedure (minutes, etc) documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase for meeting of 25 June 16:01 arosales, any update? 16:01 adam_g, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20130625 16:02 arosales, cool. 16:02 Daviey to speak to Percona about Saucy inclusion 16:03 Daviey, any update on percona in saucy? 16:03 adam_g: I have emailed them 16:03 adam_g, a couple of week late :-/ but finally got there. I'll be sure to get it out to the list and blog next time I chair (apologies). 16:03 awaiting response 16:03 adam_g: feel free to remove that from the agenda 16:03 it's inhand 16:04 Daviey, ack 16:04 rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy 16:04 I've got the script ready to go, just need to integrate with lp:ubuntu-reports now 16:05 rbasak, cool. is there a merge proposal somewhere yet? 16:05 No - Daviey took me through the code earlier so I know what to do now. You should see one this week. 16:05 super 16:05 sweet 16:06 i'll leave it on the agenda 16:06 #ACTION rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy 16:06 * meetingology rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy 16:06 zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy. 16:06 no joy...apache2 is still making its way through debian and sqlalchemy needs to be done as well 16:07 following -release channel, apache2 is making progress 16:07 as is php5 (thanks to rbasak) 16:08 ok, ill leave that there as well. 16:08 php5 seems to have reverse build depends blocking migration to saucy now :-( 16:08 moving on? 16:08 Some may just need rebuilds 16:09 #topic Saucy Development 16:09 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server 16:09 Daviey, you want the mic for this? 16:10 ok! 16:10 bug 1196921 is feeling wedged 16:10 bug 1196921 in vim (Ubuntu Saucy) "updating packages to lua5.2 in main" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196921 16:11 rrdtool is our problem 16:11 Does someone want to volunteer to look at that? 16:11 might be trivial... 16:11 ill do it 16:12 jamespage: maybe someone else? :) 16:12 Daviey, if it's an easy one i can volunteer 16:12 if no-one else can 16:12 yolanda: Super! Have a look at it and see what it involves? 16:12 sure 16:13 bug 1183634 16:13 bug 1183634 in cheetah (Ubuntu Saucy) "cheetah pkg does not depend on markdown, but egg requires.txt does" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1183634 16:13 adam_g: ^ 16:13 that should be won't fix 16:13 once the MIR goes though no? 16:13 Daviey, should be good. both python-markdown and python-tidylib got promoted okay to main. just need a new cheetah that Depends on them, and dropping of our patch there 16:14 adam_g: super, so next upload? 16:14 Daviey, yup. stuff got promoted just recently, ill propose a new cheetah package todya 16:14 supr 16:14 bug 1199791 16:14 bug 1199791 in nova (Ubuntu Saucy) "nova-compute-xcp misses nova-compute.conf" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1199791 16:14 zul: ^ ? 16:15 bug 1190038, adam_g ? 16:15 bug 1190038 in keystone (Ubuntu Saucy) "keystone-all fails to start: : The Keystone paste configuration file keystone-paste.ini could not be found." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1190038 16:15 Daviey: ugh 16:15 Daviey, fix committed pending a new keystone upload 16:15 super 16:16 rbasak: bug 1031680 ? 16:16 bug 1031680 in nagios-plugins (Ubuntu Raring) "check_apt always report 0 critical updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031680 16:16 adam_g: bug 1197163 ? 16:16 bug 1197163 in nova (Ubuntu Saucy) "nova-xvpvncproxy installs no upstart job" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197163 16:16 I've not looked at that. 16:16 Daviey, fix committed pending a new nova upload 16:16 rbasak: Oh, i thought you were looking at that one, sorry 16:16 o/ 16:17 smoser: are you looking at bug 1031680 ? 16:17 I'll add it to my list to at least look at. I can't remember if we can make progress on it or not. 16:17 bug 1031680 in nagios-plugins (Ubuntu Raring) "check_apt always report 0 critical updates" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031680 16:17 no. i wasn't. i was just saying hello. 16:17 Oh, everyone say hello to smoser please 16:17 Hello smoser. 16:18 Hi smoser! 16:18 jamespage: bug 1170393 ? 16:18 hi everyone. 16:18 * jamespage waits for ubottu 16:18 bug 1170393 16:19 tap tap 16:19 is this thing on 16:19 jamespage: "Quantum services should be respawned by upstart if necessary" 16:19 on my todo list still - want to get the neutron name change out of the way first 16:19 Good thinking 16:19 there are also some new agents to enable 16:19 do we have a decent transition path? 16:19 Daviey: its in progress 16:20 zul has made a start but its pretty ugly for existing configuration 16:20 jamespage: ISTR you were looking at bug 1196979 ? 16:20 jamespage: ugh 16:20 "[MIR] libasm4-java (b-d of jarjar)" 16:20 mhfjknjsnfdcs 16:20 forgot about that one 16:20 * zul hopes openstack will never rename a project again 16:20 sorry 16:21 super 16:21 I think that will probably wash through in Debian first - I'll go talk with a few folks in the debian-java team 16:21 Any other issues pertinent ? 16:21 zul, you got the sqlalchemy stuff stored now 16:21 I'd like to flag https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/1199318. I tried to target it for Saucy but apparantly I still can't do that unless I'm missing something. 16:21 or is that still all held iup in proposed? 16:22 rbasak: ugh, i think you need to be core to target. How silly. 16:22 bug 1170393 in quantum (Ubuntu Saucy) "Quantum services should be respawned by upstart if necessary" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170393 16:22 bug 1196979 in ow-util-ant-tasks (Ubuntu Saucy) "[MIR] libasm4-java (b-d of jarjar)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196979 16:22 rbasak, approved 16:22 Ubuntu bug 1199318 in apache2 (Ubuntu Saucy) "package apache2-utils 2.2.22-6ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/apport/package-hooks/apache2.py', which is also in package apache2.2-common 2.2.22-6ubuntu5" [High,Confirmed] 16:22 jamespage: its still held up in proposed, but nova builds with 0.7.9+ now 16:22 okay, i think we should see if that one is still an issue when apache finishes it's miration/ 16:22 migration*? 16:23 We can wait. Although I have a suspicion the underlying cause will remain. 16:23 I think it will be 16:23 Unless Debian fix it first. 16:23 what are we talking about now? apache2? 16:23 yes 16:23 thats the ubuntu apport hook 16:23 so its our bug 16:23 Ah 16:23 Good point. 16:23 right, but i wanted to see if it is still an issue when apache2 settles down 16:23 just needs the right breaks/replaces 16:24 How'd it manage to move from -common to -utils anyway? 16:24 one second - it looks like its in both? 16:24 lets defer it until next week, when the transition should be solved. 16:24 AIUI, it was in -common before, and is in -utils now. 16:24 And perhaps both though that's not clear. 16:25 We probably want it in -common and not -utils? 16:25 i suspect it did move, and Breaks/Replaces hasn't made sure the old one is uninstalled first. 16:25 yeah it seems to be a Breaks/Replaces issue 16:25 anyway - lets let rbasak sort that one out 16:26 super 16:26 Move on? 16:26 sure. 16:26 blueprints! 16:26 #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-saucy/group/topic-saucy-servercloud-overview.html 16:26 hmm. thats a bad link 16:26 O RLY 16:27 http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-servercloud-overview.html 16:27 for some reason aucy was removed... *sigh* 16:27 adam_g: can you update the template please? 16:27 (Agenda) 16:27 Daviey, sure 16:28 [james-page] Resolve OpenSSL licensing issues with upstream: INPROGRESS <-- is that now done, jamespage ? 16:28 Daviey, almost 16:28 first part is in 16:28 just waiting for headers to appear on the relevant files 16:28 mongodb MIR may prove problematic 16:28 ok 16:28 ugh 16:28 I need to catchup with jdstand but I've been a bit busy 16:28 understood 16:28 rbasak: [racb] Complete and feed arm porting work back upstream: INPROGRESS ? 16:29 and the other arm work.. 16:29 Oddly my double alignment patch doesn't seem to be needed any more. I need to double check. 16:29 I very quickly spoke to Jon Masters about the other patch at Linaro Connect. It sounded like he'd be happy to get it upstreamed as-is. 16:29 I need to follow up on both. 16:29 oh groovy! If that is something you can look at this week, that will help improve the blueprint completeness :) 16:30 roaksoax: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-openstack-charms-ha-v2 ? 16:30 progress, seems, erm, less than ideal. 16:31 Daviey, we need to get the python redux out of the way first before we start adding new stuff 16:31 utlemming / ivoks: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-webscale .. how is that looking? 16:31 jamespage: what is the current status of redux? 16:32 most shared code is now into charm-helpers trunk 16:32 Daviey: with all the cloud stuff, I haven't even had a reasonable chance to look at it 16:32 glance (roaksoax) cinder (adam_g) and openstack-dashboard (me) all in flight 16:32 but looking good and working on juju-core 16:33 adam_g, anything further to add? 16:33 i expect the remaining python rewrites will all happen quickly with the shared code in one place and functional 16:33 adam_g, agreed 16:33 utlemming: would you be able to do a quick analysis by next week.. that is one work item, and may help guide the rest of the blueprint priority 16:33 Daviey: uh 16:33 with nova-cloud-controller being the most time consuming 16:33 I did the openstack-dashboard one in a few hours this morning 16:33 Daviey: sure, I'll take a look 16:33 utlemming: thanks 16:33 jamespage, cool! i think swift-storage, nova-compute should be <2 hours easy 16:33 Daviey: yeah i been concentrated on other things 16:33 but I'll get there 16:33 adam_g, yeah 16:33 shall we set the goal of having the redux done by EOW/ 16:33 ? 16:33 Daviey: sorry, ENOTIME 16:34 actually while we are discussing 16:34 ivoks: understood.. when do you think you will have time? 16:34 ivoks: or should we drop it? 16:34 Daviey: drop it for 13.10 16:34 * jamespage defers 16:34 Daviey, i expect the nova-cloud-controller charm to take a bit longer, there are *many* duplicmate variations that need good testing. 16:34 Daviey, but the others + good progress on nova-c-c should be doable this week for sure 16:35 adam_g: If we set the goal, can you help identify where other people might be able to help? 16:35 uh s/duplicmate/deployment... but i like that new word, duplicmate 16:35 It would be super if we could get it cracked out this week 16:35 sure 16:35 maybe without full test coverage 16:36 ill sync with roaksoax later to see how he is doing on glance, and we can split up the remaning few charms between jamespage, roaksoax and myself 16:36 works for me 16:36 super 16:36 jamespage: yeah, done in principle is the target i think 16:36 QA & testing next week 16:37 zul: milestone h-2 this thurs, how are we looking for uploads? 16:37 Daviey: better than yesterday nova is building locally with sqlalchemy 0.7.9 16:38 zul: Are we expecting a fullu functional h-2 in saucy by eow? 16:38 Daviey: just trying to get people to look at them now 16:38 neutron and neurtronclient needs to MIRed again i think dont they 16:38 zul: what needs looking at? 16:38 nova/cinder/python-ceilometerclent so far 16:39 zul: I suspect neutron needs a ruber stamp, please can you reach out directly to mterry and check? 16:39 Daviey: yep 16:39 zul: I'd really like to start getting it into UCA on Monday 16:40 Any other BP stuff from anyone? 16:40 adam_g: move on? 16:40 one more thing BP related 16:40 the one that never show up - ceph 16:40 Ugh 16:40 I stuffed a interim release into https://launchpad.net/~ceph-ubuntu/+archive/edgers 16:40 ... the one that got away 16:41 0.66 16:41 we are getting pretty close to the dumpling release now (august) 16:41 so its an early preview for testing 16:41 won't land in distro 16:41 ok! 16:42 jamespage: have the BP link to hand? 16:42 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-ceph 16:42 ta 16:42 cool 16:42 #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:42 anything going on? 16:43 OSCON is next week. i know jorge castro will be there, i will at least be at some of the night events and BoFS 16:43 This Friday, openstack birthday being celebrated in London 16:43 i believe there will be an ubuntu server related BOF @ OSCON. ill post the date next meeting 16:44 (http://www.meetup.com/Openstack-London/) 16:44 cool 16:44 moving on? 16:44 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) 16:45 nothing much apart from this bug for us 16:45 bug #1197484 16:45 bug 1197484 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "Connection requests to saucy server VMs from a hosts fail after fresh VM installs" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197484 16:46 impacting the server smoke tests. jdstrand is working on to reproduce that outside qa lab 16:46 that's all from QA 16:46 psivaa, sounds fun. thanks. let us know if theres anything we can do to help test 16:47 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:47 Got Xen-4.3 mostly prepared and running and starting to annoy people with sponsoring requests. Started with some libvirt updates to fix xm stack regression and support 4.3 in the xen driver. Right now wondering about how to make upgrades a bit more seamless (fix paths in xend configs add a script to convert xend persistent definitions into libxl ones for libvirt). 16:47 smb, o/ 16:47 Oh and one more thing about xen 4.3: upstream dropped support for i386 16:47 on the hypervisor. So I dropped that from building. Not sure one can 16:47 do more in order to give people more warning. In theory the combo of 16:47 64bit hypervisor and 32bit dom0 and tools should work but I don't know 16:47 how that combo would be mapped to debian packaging.. 16:47 Apart from those minor details... any questions for me? 16:48 smb, thanks for the xen update 16:48 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:49 rbasak, anything new to report? 16:49 Nothing new to report, really. mongodb ARM patch status as above. 16:49 I have a golang fix in hand and will upload soon. 16:49 \o/ 16:49 \o/ 16:49 cool 16:49 apparently stripping go binaires breaks stuff 16:49 oh? 16:50 My reading of Debian policy is that stripping is "should" not "must" so we can drop dh_strip. 16:50 yes 16:50 golang upstream doesn't use the normal toolchain. 16:50 And upstream don't support strip. 16:50 some binaries where already selectively excluded - we are just increasing the scope a bit 16:50 They say it breaks things. Evidently it does. 16:51 #topic Open Discussion 16:51 I think they might be Doing It Wrong, but I don't know enough to argue. They're upstream, it doesn't break policy so we might as well do what they say here. Given the other stuff we have to do with golang, this is trivial I think. 16:52 zul, smoser, roaksoax, adam_g, matsubara: you are al rubbish 16:52 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/WeeklyDunk/Week29 16:52 Daviey: thanks for the vote of confidence 16:52 zul, whats 'Example'? :-) 16:52 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2013-July/006679.html 16:52 sounds interesting 16:53 jamespage: its my new secret project 16:53 ooooooo 16:53 Anybody not listed that wants to add an entry, feel free! 16:53 More the merry. 16:54 smoser: i take back your suck, you have done yours. 16:54 EOF 16:54 of course i suck. 16:54 Daviey, sorry, was out Fri will get updated today 16:54 Daviey: btw is al rubish my new name 16:54 super, thanks adam_g 16:55 #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:55 next meeting will be Tuesday July 23rd 16:55 chaired by the honorable James Page 16:56 THE James Page! 16:56 super, thanks for chairing adam_g 16:56 thanks for chairing adam_g 16:56 over-and-out 16:56 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)