22:00 <hggdh> #startmeeting 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board 22:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jul 4 22:00:44 2013 UTC. The chair is hggdh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 22:00 <meetingology> 22:00 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 22:00 <hggdh> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 2200 UTC meeting for July 4th, 2013. 22:00 <IdleOne> o/ 22:00 <PabloRubianes> hello all 22:00 <iulian> \o 22:00 <hggdh> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. 22:01 <hggdh> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). 22:01 <hggdh> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. 22:01 <hggdh> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. 22:01 <hggdh> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) 22:02 <hggdh> #voter micahg s-fox PabloRubianes IdleOne iulian hggdh 22:02 <hggdh> hum, where's the response? 22:03 <s-fox> i had my vote notification 22:03 <IdleOne> try #voters 22:03 <hggdh> nevermind. So, now, for the first candidate 22:03 <hggdh> #voters micahg s-fox PabloRubianes IdleOne iulian hggdh 22:03 <meetingology> Current voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes hggdh iulian micahg s-fox 22:03 <hggdh> yeah 22:04 <hggdh> Dolasilla: please present yorself 22:04 <Dolasilla> Hi all! :) 22:04 <iulian> Hi there. 22:04 <Dolasilla> This is Silvia, I am an Italian computer engineer currently living in France. 22:05 <Dolasilla> I have joined the Ubuntu community around 2007 through the UbuntuWomen group 22:05 <Dolasilla> with the goal to involve more people, particularly women, in the community 22:05 <Dolasilla> later I got in touch with the Italian loco team (around 2010) 22:06 <Dolasilla> where I am mainly active in the promotion group, writing on a weelky basis on the newsletter, contributing to presentations with talks 22:06 <Dolasilla> and some other activites 22:06 <IdleOne> Dolasilla: Please link to your wiki page 22:06 <Dolasilla> I also work on the italian ubuntu website, and give some contribution to translations 22:06 <Dolasilla> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SilviaBindelli 22:06 <Dolasilla> I am currently in the board uf Ubuntu Women 22:07 <Dolasilla> and, in Italy, I contributed to create the local chapter of the group 22:07 <IdleOne> Lots of impressive work :) 22:07 <iulian> Very nice. 22:07 <hggdh> yep. So... 22:07 <PabloRubianes> yes nice work! 22:07 <s-fox> i am impressed 22:07 <s-fox> :) 22:08 <Dolasilla> :) thanks 22:08 <PabloRubianes> let's vote 22:08 <PabloRubianes> :) 22:08 <s-fox> agreed 22:08 <hggdh> #vote for Dolasilla as an Ubuntu Member 22:08 <meetingology> Please vote on: for Dolasilla as an Ubuntu Member 22:08 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 22:08 <iulian> +1 Keep up the good work. 22:08 <meetingology> +1 Keep up the good work. received from iulian 22:08 <IdleOne> +1 22:08 <meetingology> +1 received from IdleOne 22:08 <s-fox> +1 nice work :D 22:08 <meetingology> +1 nice work :D received from s-fox 22:08 <PabloRubianes> +1 22:08 <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes 22:08 <hggdh> +1 no question :-) 22:08 <meetingology> +1 no question :-) received from hggdh 22:08 <micahg> +1 22:08 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg 22:09 <IdleOne> #endvote 22:09 <hggdh> #endvote 22:09 <meetingology> Voting ended on: for Dolasilla as an Ubuntu Member 22:09 <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 22:09 <meetingology> Motion carried 22:09 <IdleOne> Congrats Dolasilla!!! 22:09 <PabloRubianes> congrats Dolasilla keep the work going! 22:09 <s-fox> congratulations 22:09 <hggdh> Dolasilla: welcome! 22:09 <Dolasilla> thanks!!! :) 22:09 <Gwaihir> congrats Dolasilla! \o/ 22:09 <Deindre> congrats Dolasilla!!! 22:09 <Dolasilla> thank you all :) 22:09 <kokoye2007> congratulations Dolasilla 22:09 <s-fox> thank you for your efforts 22:09 <neo31> congratulations Dolasilla 22:09 <yeminn> Congratulations Dolasilla 22:10 <Dolasilla> thanks :) 22:10 <hggdh> salih-emin: please introduce yourself, and link your wiki and launchpad pages 22:10 <saimawnkham> Congratulations Dolasilla 22:10 <salih-emin> Hi ! 22:10 <thohi> Great Ubuntu woman 22:10 <salih-emin> My name is Salih, I live and work as an IT Consultant in Greece 22:10 <salih-emin> here is my wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SalihEmin 22:11 <salih-emin> I have been in the Linux world since 2002 22:11 <salih-emin> and with Ubuntu since 2007 22:12 <salih-emin> My daily work with members of Ubuntu Greece is giving advices 22:12 <salih-emin> and support for any kind of problem 22:13 <salih-emin> but most of my job is advocating the use of Ubuntu for evrey day jobs 22:14 <salih-emin> I love helping new users to get involved with Ubuntu and the community 22:14 <hggdh> salih-emin: please wait a bit, we are discussing it in the background 22:15 <salih-emin> ok ! 22:15 <salih-emin> :) 22:19 <hggdh> #voters chilicui1 22:19 <meetingology> Current voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes chilicui1 hggdh iulian micahg s-fox 22:19 <chilicui1> salih-emin, it seems like optimus kernel has been left a little behind, do you plans to trying to push your changes to the ubuntu kernel? 22:20 <salih-emin> yes that is true, I am working on providing it through PPA rather than 22:20 <salih-emin> downloadable deb packages 22:20 <hggdh> #vote on salih-emin for Ubuntu membership 22:20 <meetingology> Please vote on: on salih-emin for Ubuntu membership 22:20 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 22:20 <hggdh> +1 22:20 <meetingology> +1 received from hggdh 22:20 <iulian> +1 22:20 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian 22:20 <PabloRubianes> +1 22:20 <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes 22:20 <eliasps> +1 22:20 <s-fox> +1 22:20 <meetingology> +1 received from s-fox 22:20 <IdleOne> +1 22:20 <meetingology> +1 received from IdleOne 22:20 <chilicui1> +1, incredible work, you radiate energy, it will be our pleasure to have you with us 22:20 <meetingology> +1, incredible work, you radiate energy, it will be our pleasure to have you with us received from chilicui1 22:20 <micahg> +1 22:20 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg 22:20 <hggdh> #endvote 22:20 <meetingology> Voting ended on: on salih-emin for Ubuntu membership 22:20 <meetingology> Votes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 22:20 <meetingology> Motion carried 22:20 <IdleOne> Congrats salih-emin and welcome. 22:20 <hggdh> salih-emin: welcome! 22:21 <salih-emin> thank you all !!!! 22:21 <tr3quart1sta> congrats!!! 22:21 <chilicui1> welcome aboard salih-emin =) 22:21 <kokoye2007> welcome 2 ubuntu-member salih-emin 22:21 <PabloRubianes> congrats salih-emin 22:21 <Ethan-Kurt> congrats ubuntu-member salih-emin 22:21 <salih-emin> thank you all, proud to be member ! 22:22 <htutmyat> Congrats salih-emin :) 22:22 <NikTh> Congratulations salih-emin . Welcome aboard. :-) 22:22 <neo31> conratulations salih-emin 22:22 <salih-emin> thank you all ! 22:22 <Ck> Cheer salih-emin 22:22 <saimawnkham> congrats salih :) 22:23 <Ck> =1 22:23 <Ck> +1 22:23 <Ck> hello next ? 22:24 <IdleOne> patience :) 22:24 <thohi> :) 22:24 <kokoye2007> we are sleepless local 4:30 AM IdleOne :P 22:25 <IdleOne> For all the people who applied from Myanmar. We are happy that such a large number of you want to become Ubuntu members. We do have some concerns though... 22:25 <htutmyat> :) 22:25 <PabloRubianes> kokoye2007, I told the Myanmar this time was not so good for you 22:26 <Ethan-Kurt> We all really are contributor and we hope to be a Ubuntu-Member 22:26 <lugyimin> :) 22:26 <IdleOne> The main concern we have is that all of your wiki pages appear to be very similar in terms of contributions. We like to see a more personal listing of what each member has done on his/her own. 22:26 <iulian> We don't offer membership to a group, but rather to individuals. It looks like all your wiki pages are the same, more or less. The testimonials have been given between you guys, except for one person who's already a member (Pyae Sone). Having said that, I would like you to put some effort in writing your own wiki page with detailed explanation of what your contributions are. 22:27 <iulian> We are sure that you guys are doing good work out there but your wiki pages are way too similar. So we cannot really judge who's doing what. 22:27 <IdleOne> So, what the Membership Board has decided to do is to postpone the voting to our email list and give you all an extra 7 days before we start voting. 22:28 <iulian> Or you guys can even extend that 7 days to whatever you think is best for you. 22:28 <Ethan-Kurt> We can also write down in here. 22:28 <Ck> becuse of we contributing with group in Myanmar . We go together all around the state . 22:28 <kokoye2007> all are Ubuntu-MM Core Memer 22:28 <IdleOne> We hope you all understand that we want to make sure we have all the information possible so that we can make the best decision for the Ubuntu community. 22:28 <kokoye2007> _member 22:29 <Ethan-Kurt> In our country, it's 05:00am and we didn't sleep just for a while 22:29 <Ck> that's why our team leader make a templates. 22:29 <Ck> What we all are... 22:29 <Ethan-Kurt> sure! our template are the same because we contributed together 22:29 <kokoye2007> when we go event and make event 22:29 <Ethan-Kurt> that's why we have the same template 22:29 <kokoye2007> together whenever 22:30 <Ethan-Kurt> you can see our activities at http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-mm 22:30 <iulian> Ethan-Kurt: Then please document that in your wiki pages. Like we said above we don't grant membership to an entire group. 22:30 <PabloRubianes> I understand that but this is an individual process 22:30 <kokoye2007> all about is my mistake 22:30 <htutmyat> Why not the chance like the 2 above ? 22:31 <Ethan-Kurt> Our individual project is shown on "About me" 22:31 <saimawnkham> its ok. 22:31 <saimawnkham> i quit 22:31 <htutmyat> you can dicusss with each ,that are not real or not ,right ? 22:31 <kokoye2007> who is ubuntu-mm core member - approval in template :( 22:31 <kokoye2007> upset 22:31 <iulian> Ethan-Kurt: No, that section is just "About me". It's not saying anything about your contributions to Ubuntu. 22:32 <kokoye2007> who seen wiki, who see activity 22:32 <Ethan-Kurt> Dear iulian, it's okay you decided like this. 22:32 <chilicui1> let's make this clear, we're not rejecting your applications, we just want to make sure we're not approving in batch, so we're giving you 7 more days to polish your wiki pages, then we'll vote for your approval 22:32 <Ethan-Kurt> I can still contribute even I am not the member of Ubuntu 22:32 <IdleOne> Please try to understand that we are not trying to punish anybody. What we want is to give each one of you the best possible chance at approval. 22:33 <Ethan-Kurt> I've just seen the contributing power 22:33 <Ethan-Kurt> no wiki 22:33 <Ethan-Kurt> whatever, you are the boardmember. 22:33 <IdleOne> We are not rejecting any of you at this time 22:33 <Ethan-Kurt> you can decided what you want to 22:33 <Ethan-Kurt> thanks 22:33 <IdleOne> I want that to be clear 22:33 <yeminn> I see, chilicui1 :) 22:33 <Ethan-Kurt> upset :( 22:33 <IdleOne> kokoye2007: you are the loco contact correct? 22:34 <kokoye2007> yes IdleOne 22:34 <kokoye2007> i am ubuntu-mm leader and ubuntu-member 22:34 <IdleOne> ok Please hold for a moment 22:34 <Ck> We are grouply contributing Ubuntu in our country . and than Yangon city Development Committe (YCDC) already change Ubuntu Os because of our team.our group . 22:34 <kokoye2007> IdleOne: it's my idea and my mistake 22:35 <Ethan-Kurt> Currently, I am the Ubuntu instructor and technical supporter of Yangon City Development Committee (Government Sector) and University of Computer Studies in Thaton. 22:35 <kokoye2007> but they are real activity Ubuntu Contributor 22:35 <kokoye2007> ok skip it. ;P 22:35 <Ck> that'swhy we always says I am what I am because of who we all are. 22:35 <IdleOne> kokoye2007: you did not make any mistakes. Everybody please calm down 22:35 <Ethan-Kurt> Most of my times have been passed by contributing Ubuntu 22:35 <PabloRubianes> please could you hold the chat a little 22:35 <Ck> and than We can't sleep for hole night . 22:37 <iulian> Please don't get us wrong here. We are just trying to point you guys in the right direction so that next time when you come to the meeting we won't have to talk about this matters again. We have acknowledged the fact that you guys are doing excellent job with your group. 22:37 <Ethan-Kurt> Okay. 22:37 <Ethan-Kurt> I'm done with all of you 22:37 <iulian> It's just that we cannot really judge who is doing what. Maybe someone is doing much more than the other and we wouldn't want to grant membership to someone who's not doing anything or the like. 22:38 <Ethan-Kurt> I will share this meeting log 22:38 <Ethan-Kurt> in Google+ and 22:38 <Ethan-Kurt> let decided the ppl 22:38 <Ethan-Kurt> I am done with you 22:38 <iulian> Hmm. 22:38 <kokoye2007> launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mm-council is our admin team 22:39 <kokoye2007> hey neo31 22:39 <kokoye2007> time for you :) 22:39 <IdleOne> kokoye2007: please join #ubuntu-rmb 22:39 <Ck> pass me . 22:39 <yeminn> dun be serious Ethan 22:39 <Ck> next ok 22:39 <iulian> kokoye2007: Could you please talk to Ethan and tell him to calm down? 22:39 <hggdh> all: we are NOT refusing your application. 22:39 <neo31> :) 22:39 <kokoye2007> i think time is too short 22:40 <IdleOne> hggdh: Please end the meeting until we can speak with kokoye2007 22:40 <kokoye2007> sorry neo31, 22:40 <thohi> yes, we understand . only different point of view 22:40 <neo31> :( 22:40 <neo31> is it my turn or is the meeting aborted kokoye2007 ? 22:40 <Ck> I'd love to sharing and contribute Ubuntu in Local community . And most of my life deeply invest in Ubuntu Development and try to exam LPI in next year and would like to proudly become Ubuntu Member. 22:41 <Ck> who next ? 22:41 <Ck> go ahead 22:41 <neo31> ok 22:41 <hggdh> neo31: it seems we will have to hold on you 22:42 <IdleOne> wait! 22:42 <neo31> Should I post my sentences hggdh ? 22:42 <hggdh> neo31: yes, please go ahead 22:42 <neo31> Thank you hggdh, hello dear members. 22:42 <neo31> I am Ahmed Sghaier, a Tunisian software engineer and a network security and services IT specialist. My first experience with Linux was in 2002 and switched to it as my main OS in 2005. 22:42 <neo31> Later in 2008 I have joined Ubuntu Tunisian LoCo team and became an active member in 2009. 22:42 <neo31> I have been approved as a Freedom Fighter (approved active members) in the team in 2010 and joined the management commitee of the team in 2011. 22:42 <chilicui1> hi neo31 welcome 22:43 <neo31> In 2012 I was assisting our LoCo contact when possible, and I have been approved as the official LoCo contact in 2013 election. I am also now the secretary general of CLibre, a FLOSS NGO supporting Tunisian communities. 22:43 <neo31> I have contributed to 25 IRL events during last years (local, national and international events as a speaker, workshop trainer, coordinator, organizer or assistant). I have contributed also on IRC, ML, forums and many of our sub teams (media, events, relations, documentation and reporting) 22:43 <neo31> hi chilicui1 :) 22:43 <neo31> this is my wiki page for review : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AhmedSghaier 22:44 <chilicui1> neo31, do you photos or links to the conferences you've participated? 22:44 <alaya> hi, I'm the former loco contact of Ubuntu-tn and a Ubuntu Member. I'm here to support Neo31 22:45 <neo31> yes chilicui1 there are many links on events page 22:45 <iulian> alaya: Great. 22:45 <neo31> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/Events 22:45 <chilicui1> neo31: thanks 22:45 <neo31> some other links could be found also on our team report page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/TeamReports 22:46 <neo31> I have uploaded some photos today to https://plus.google.com/photos/109786888015890437987/albums/5896864064045728145?authkey=CKrv-ITLl4a2Ow 22:46 <neo31> unfortunately on of our main photos source got down lately and I am recollecting some other photos 22:47 <neo31> but alaya can confirm my contributions to the events you want 22:47 <chilicui1> I've seen you're interested in becoming a MOTU, however your lp account don't reflect activity in that area, are you having issues there? 22:48 <neo31> we have been working on packaging workshops during UGJ 22:49 <neo31> now that we have enough knowledge about packaging and how it works I became interested in joining the MOTU team 22:49 <alaya> I confirm the participation of neo. there is a little problem in the servers of the free community here in tunisia (I have conctacted the admin) 22:49 <neo31> I will be seeking a MOTU sponsor before next UGJ and organize some IRC classrooms for the team 22:50 <chilicui1> got it neo31, just wondering 22:50 <neo31> Then I will start contributing real packages to next releases before I apply to join the MOTU team 22:50 <neo31> :) good chilicui1 22:50 <iulian> neo31: #ubuntu-motu is always there to help you. ;-) 22:50 <micahg> sounds good, MOTU can always use more help :) 22:50 <neo31> sure iulian 22:51 <hggdh> OK 22:51 <iulian> neo31: Thanks for the information. 22:51 <hggdh> #vote on neo31 for Ubuntu Membership 22:51 <meetingology> Please vote on: on neo31 for Ubuntu Membership 22:51 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 22:51 <PabloRubianes> +1 22:51 <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes 22:51 <iulian> +1 Great work. 22:51 <meetingology> +1 Great work. received from iulian 22:51 <IdleOne> +1 22:51 <meetingology> +1 received from IdleOne 22:51 <s-fox> +1 22:51 <meetingology> +1 received from s-fox 22:51 <hggdh> +1 thank you for your work 22:51 <meetingology> +1 thank you for your work received from hggdh 22:51 <chilicui1> +1, I'm sure you will get MOTU and will keep up your nice contributions to the Ubuntu-TN team, thanks for inspire us 22:51 <meetingology> +1, I'm sure you will get MOTU and will keep up your nice contributions to the Ubuntu-TN team, thanks for inspire us received from chilicui1 22:52 <micahg> +1 22:52 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg 22:52 <hggdh> #endvote 22:52 <meetingology> Voting ended on: on neo31 for Ubuntu Membership 22:52 <meetingology> Votes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 22:52 <meetingology> Motion carried 22:52 <IdleOne> Congrats neo31 and welcome! 22:52 <hggdh> neo31: welcome! 22:52 <yeminn> Congratulations neo31! 22:52 <yeminn> :) 22:52 <neo31> Thank you very much :) 22:52 <alaya> mabrouk (congrates) neo :) 22:52 <chilicui1> welcome aboard neo31 22:52 <Ck> congratulations Neo 22:52 <thohi> neo31 cheer :) 22:53 <iulian> Congratulations, neo31 and keep up the good work. I hope I will see you soon in #ubuntu-motu. 22:53 <neo31> cheers, I will do my best to improve my contributions 22:53 <hggdh> OK. Now I believe all the pending candidates are the ones involved in the current confusion. We are discussing with kokoye2007 in the backstage. 22:53 <neo31> thank you iulian 22:53 <hggdh> I will hold the meeting open for a while 22:54 <PabloRubianes> congrats neo31 22:54 <lunapersa> Congratulations neo31 22:54 <neo31> thank you PabloRubianes alaya lunapersa :) 22:54 <salih-emin> neo31 congrats ! 22:55 <neo31> thank you salih-emin 22:55 <hggdh> given the time -- 2255 UST, I will close this meeting. The conversation with kokoye2007 will keep on 22:55 <hggdh> #endmeeting