11:59 <cyphermox> #startmeeting 1200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board 11:59 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jun 19 11:59:55 2013 UTC. The chair is cyphermox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 11:59 <meetingology> 11:59 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 12:00 <cyphermox> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 1200 UTC meeting for June 19, 2013. 12:00 <cyphermox> The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards 12:00 <cyphermox> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. 12:00 <cyphermox> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). 12:00 <cyphermox> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. 12:00 <cyphermox> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. 12:00 <cyphermox> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) 12:01 <cyphermox> #voters cyphermox Pendulum jared freeflying iulian hggdh micahg 12:01 <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: freeflying 12:01 <meetingology> Current voters: Pendulum cyphermox freeflying hggdh iulian jared micahg 12:01 <surgemcgee_> Sounds good. 12:02 <cyphermox> Now, without any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant... 12:02 <cyphermox> #subtopic Pietro Albini (pietro98-albini) 12:03 <pietro98-albini> Hello everybody and sorry for my bad english 12:03 <pietro98-albini> I'm Pietro Albini, an Italian boy 12:04 <pietro98-albini> I start to contribute to Ubuntu in the Italian LoCoTeam managing its website, and in January 2013 I got the LoCo membership 12:05 <pietro98-albini> After that I start to write to the LoCo newsletter and triage bugs, but I don't have enough time to triage and I stop some time ago to contribute 12:05 <warp10> I already endorsed pietro98-albini on the wiki, but I want to remark his work during the latest italian Debian/Ubuntu Community Conference, where he has proven, once again, to be a cornerstone of the italian community. Keep up the good work, Pietro! 12:06 <pietro98-albini> Other I'm an adminstrator of a new service of the LoCo, Chiedi, a "parody" of askubuntu in italian language, but due to sysadmins the service is not start now 12:06 <iulian> pietro98-albini: Would you consider restarting that, or is your decision final? 12:07 <pietro98-albini> iulian, in LoCo I do a lot of work, and I must study (i'm 14) 12:07 <iulian> pietro98-albini: I mean bug triaging. 12:07 <pietro98-albini> iulian, I know 12:08 <pietro98-albini> Also I start few days ago to moderate Ubuntu-it social network groups/pages 12:08 <pietro98-albini> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PietroAlbini 12:08 <pietro98-albini> https://launchpad.net/~pietro98-albini 12:08 <iulian> You mentioned that you stopped doing that... do you plan to get back on it some time in the future? 12:08 <pietro98-albini> iulian, if I have a lot of free time yes 12:10 <pietro98-albini> In website team I made lots of pages, and I'm the trainer for newbies 12:10 <iulian> pietro98-albini: So your future plan is to keep working with the LoCo team, is that correct? 12:10 <pietro98-albini> iulian, yes 12:10 <pietro98-albini> iulian, I think Italian LoCo is a fantastic place with wonderful people 12:10 * warp10 nods 12:11 <iulian> Great. 12:13 <Trevinho> I also can also confirm here that pietro98-albini is doing really an amazing work for the (Italian) ubuntu community... keep up the good work! 12:14 <cyphermox> #vote Pietro Albini (pietro98-albini) to obtain Ubuntu Membership 12:14 <meetingology> Please vote on: Pietro Albini (pietro98-albini) to obtain Ubuntu Membership 12:14 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 12:15 <cyphermox> +1 good LoCo work, though it would be nice to see more involvement in other things too! 12:15 <meetingology> +1 good LoCo work, though it would be nice to see more involvement in other things too! received from cyphermox 12:16 <Pendulum> +1 12:16 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 12:17 <hggdh> +1 Good LoCo, but please look around too ;-) 12:17 <meetingology> +1 Good LoCo, but please look around too ;-) received from hggdh 12:17 <Xenon_> +1 12:17 <micahg> +1 12:17 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg 12:18 <iulian> +0 12:18 <meetingology> +0 received from iulian 12:18 <amirolahmad> +1 12:19 <cyphermox> #endvote 12:19 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Pietro Albini (pietro98-albini) to obtain Ubuntu Membership 12:19 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 12:19 <meetingology> Motion carried 12:19 <pietro98-albini> :D 12:19 <warp10> pietro98-albini: ^5! 12:19 <hggdh> pietro98-albini: welcome :-) 12:19 <pietro98-albini> hggdh, thanks :D 12:19 <cyphermox> welcome pietro98-albini 12:19 <Pendulum> pietro98-albini: congrats and welcome! 12:20 <cyphermox> moving on since we have lots of applicants today :) 12:20 <cyphermox> #subtopic Mattia Migliorini (deshack) 12:20 <pietro98-albini> Thanks everybody :D 12:20 <cyphermox> deshack: you there? 12:20 <Trevinho> pietro98-albini: welcome abroad! ;) 12:20 <deshack> Hi guys, I'm italian too 12:20 <Trevinho> aboard* 12:20 <pietro98-albini> The italian band :P 12:20 <Xenon_> :D 12:21 <surgemcgee_> I am encouraged by this atmosphere. Congratulations Pietro. 12:21 * warp10 loves stereotypes and cooks some pizza 12:21 <deshack> I contribute to ubuntu-it since July 2012 (starting by contributing to the Translations Team), than became a member of the Website Team in September 12:22 <deshack> Now I'm a leader of the Press Team 12:22 <deshack> Apart from that, I'm studying Computer Science at the university 12:23 <deshack> therefore my highest interest is to become, sooner or later, Ubuntu Developer ;) 12:23 <deshack> Wiki Page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MattiaMigliorini 12:23 <deshack> Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~deshack 12:24 <ApOgEE> hi all 12:25 <iulian> deshack: Thanks. 12:26 <cyphermox> #vote Mattia Migliorini (deshack) to obtain Ubuntu Membership 12:26 <meetingology> Please vote on: Mattia Migliorini (deshack) to obtain Ubuntu Membership 12:26 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 12:26 <iulian> +1 12:26 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian 12:26 <hggdh> +1 good work! 12:26 <meetingology> +1 good work! received from hggdh 12:26 <cyphermox> +1 12:26 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 12:27 <cyphermox> nice work, I especially like the inkscape bug about size units, that seems really weird to me, I'll take a good look at it 12:27 <Pendulum> +1 12:27 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 12:27 <micahg> +1 12:27 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg 12:28 <cyphermox> #endvote 12:28 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Mattia Migliorini (deshack) to obtain Ubuntu Membership 12:28 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 12:28 <meetingology> Motion carried 12:28 <warp10> deshack: ^5! 12:28 <pietro98-albini> deshack, :D 12:28 <deshack> cyphermox: thanks :) I don't remember if the suggestions reported there helped 12:28 <Xenon_> :D 12:28 <cyphermox> deshack: I think so, but it still seems wrong 12:28 <Pendulum> deshack: congrats and welcome! 12:28 * warp10 waves an italian flag to celebrate 12:28 <cyphermox> #subtopic Amirol Ahmad (amirolahmad) 12:29 <amirolahmad> Hello guys 12:29 <deshack> cyphermox: yes, I don't think that adjusting the ppi by hand every time helps too much 12:29 <cyphermox> amirolahmad: please introduce yourself :) 12:29 <deshack> Pendulum: thanks! 12:29 <amirolahmad> 2 Italian has pass now for asian turn 12:29 <amirolahmad> I am AmirolAhmad from Malaysia 12:30 <amirolahmad> I contribute to Malaysia Loco team and been active since 1 and half years ago 12:31 <amirolahmad> What I do for loco is i help new members in our FB groups about what Ubuntu is (https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntumy/). Please check out my wiki page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmirolAhmad) 12:32 <amirolahmad> And also i'm HAM radio members in Malaysia (9W2PDF) so I heard there is Ubuntu-HAM so i wanted to be there and lets see what i can do for the community 12:33 <amirolahmad> Working as System Administrator at my own company (www.osemspace.com) but sometime love to some programming 12:34 <amirolahmad> That's all guys 12:35 <ApOgEE> amirolahmad is an active member in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team 12:35 <hggdh> amirolahmad: first of all, thank you for all your work. But I cannot see any sustained activity that I can verify 12:36 <hggdh> amirolahmad: I can see a lot of plans -- future --, but not really past. And we *need* to verify the "sustained" part of the requirement 12:37 <amirolahmad> hggdh: note about that. 12:38 <hggdh> amirolahmad: so, on my personal view: please come back later, say, half year's time. And make sure you get other people to write testimonials for you 12:38 <hggdh> amirolahmad: ideally, other Ubuntu members 12:38 <amirolahmad> I've a lot of commitment to do but what can i do is i help newbie in our Ubuntu Malaysia Loco Team in FB page 12:39 <hggdh> amirolahmad: I understand, and I appreciate. But "commitment to do" is *not* "sustained work done". And "work done" is one of our requirements 12:41 <cyphermox> Indeed 12:42 <cyphermox> amirolahmad: I'd like to invite you to re-apply for membership in a few months when you have some more work done in the community, then we'll be more than happy to have this meeting again and add you to the team 12:42 <cyphermox> let's continue the meeting 12:42 <amirolahmad> Sure and thank you :) 12:42 <cyphermox> #subtopic Robert Steckroth (surgemcgee__) 12:42 <surgemcgee__> Hello board members and potentials. My name Is Robert Steckroth (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobertSteckroth). 12:43 <surgemcgee__> I am asking for Ubuntu Membership and would like to extend some reinforcement of my own.\ 12:43 <surgemcgee__> I believe that the results of quality leadership and contributions are in reveled throughout the community which I see and experience everyday. 12:44 <surgemcgee__> This is why the Ubuntu Membership is important to me. 12:45 <jared> Good evening all, sorry I'm late, I'll be joining in for this candidate 12:45 <surgemcgee__> *revealed 12:46 <jared> surgemcgee__: Can you tell us when you started working on Ubuntu applications? 12:46 <surgemcgee__> Ubuntu application development has been a working endeacour for ~ a year. 12:47 <surgemcgee__> I started PySurface (a quickly like application) and then moved into the Touch platform. 12:47 <jared> surgemcgee__: I personally am not a developer so I'm not sure on the efforts for the work created, do you interact with other developers much? I would probably have expected a couple more testimonials. 12:49 <surgemcgee__> Hmm, I have had small amounts of contacts with Mr. Castro. Also, I am always seeking to bolster a project which I find interesting. 12:49 <Pendulum> surgemcgee__: Launchpad says you joined your state's LoCo team about a year ago, have you had any involvement with them? 12:50 <surgemcgee__> Regarding your request, I couldeve been more proactive regarding my Wiki page. 12:50 <hggdh> what worries me is the "sustained" part of the requirements (very much like the previous candidate) 12:51 <surgemcgee__> I have continued a daily interest and contibuted throughout many Ubuntu projects. 12:52 <jared> surgemcgee__: the requirement is generally for at least a full cycle (6 months) of significant and sustained contributions so we just need to see it's continued. 12:52 <Pendulum> surgemcgee__: is there anyone who can speak to how long you've been contributing? Also, to show us a bit more community involvement (Ubuntu Membership is recognition of being part of the community, as well) 12:52 <surgemcgee__> The Stock ticker app was 6 months easy. 12:53 <surgemcgee__> Also, my Loco team was not too accessible at the time, while I did put forth effort to contribute. 12:54 <jared> surgemcgee__: ok, based on the 5 minutes or so we have to evaluate each candidate I think it's too difficult to prove the sustained aspect of you application at this time. 12:55 <hggdh> I agree. 12:55 <cyphermox> I concur 12:55 <jared> surgemcgee__: my personal opinion is that I would much rather see some more testimonials from those you interact with to show significant and sustained contributions as the launchpad profile really doesn't explain most of that 12:56 <cyphermox> Let's move on to the next applicant, since we're just about out of time 12:56 <hggdh> surgemcgee__: consider returning in, say, half year's time, please 12:57 <surgemcgee__> I do, thgank you for your time. 12:57 <cyphermox> err, mzanetti doesn't seem to be here, so I don't think there are other applicants after all 12:57 <hggdh> ah well. 12:57 <hggdh> So, I guess we are done, right? 12:58 <cyphermox> yeah 12:58 <jared> surgemcgee__: it's not that it's possible you've already contributed enough but it's not really apparent enough for us to make a decision on 12:58 <jared> surgemcgee__: also happy to discuss further or give a pre-evaluation next time if you think that would be useful 12:58 <cyphermox> Thanks everyone for showing up, and I look forward to seeing re-applications later on :) 12:58 <cyphermox> #endmeeting